Skip to comments.Child taken from womb by social services
Posted on 11/30/2013 6:23:19 PM PST by Libloather
A pregnant woman has had her baby forcibly removed by caesarean section by social workers.
Essex social services obtained a High Court order against the woman that allowed her to be forcibly sedated and her child to be taken from her womb.
The baby girl, now 15 months old, is still in the care of social services, who are refusing to give her back to the mother, even though she claims to have made a full recovery.
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Wudda been cheaper to have given her her meds.
Lots cheaper, after the lawsuits.
Bipolar disorder is highly heritable. The baby has a high chance of being bipolar as well.
I don’t think there is any real question whether someone can travel to Britain safely anymore. They seem to have lost all sense of reason and sanity, and are now ruled by whimsical and fickle actions, no longer rising to the level of what can be called “law” or even common sense.
North Korea is more orderly. Even failed states like Somalia have at least have some remaining sensibilities. Britain is little more than a madhouse, managed by its most out of control inmates.
Giving any government, anywhere, power to remove a baby from your body is a violation that is unspeakable.
Which should go hand-in-hand with not allowing PP and others to do the same.
With todays society's infatuation with abortion, I'm surprised they didn't just abort the baby.
What’s Orwellian is the mother had no notion this case was proceeding against her. She had no chance to plead her case.
This is liberalism, nannystate craziness.
Greenpeace nuts who go to Russia and harass ships get more legal support than this mother
“The baby has a high chance of being bipolar as well.”
Well then, let’s just surgically invade the baby’s womb and fix it so there’s no chance of reproduction.
Precedent set w/ Mom!
(Or for the nuclear option, invade her cranium and remove any potentially troubling parts.)
Like the Chicoms do to enforce their "one child" policy.
Interesting thing about lithium is that it started out on trial for a certain heart disease with was stopped when it found out that the drug was very useful in treating bi-polar problems....there is a certain area of Texas that has a natural lithium within the soils and no bi-polar situations occur in that area...Has to be under psychiatric doctor not a GP. It does have some side effects due to it actually being a type of salt...
Oamacare: Of things to come!
"...Genetics - some small twin studies have indicated that there is a "substantial genetic contribution" to bipolar disorder risk. People with a blood relative who has bipolar disorder have a higher risk of developing it themselves. Currently, scientists are trying to identify which genes are involved..."
FROM the Mayo Clinic:
"...Inherited traits. Bipolar disorder is more common in people who have a blood relative (such as a sibling or parent) with the condition. Researchers are trying to find genes that may be involved in causing bipolar disorder..."
FROM the National Institute of Mental Health:
"...Bipolar disorder tends to run in families. Some research has suggested that people with certain genes are more likely to develop bipolar disorder than others. Children with a parent or sibling who has bipolar disorder are much more likely to develop the illness, compared with children who do not have a family history of bipolar disorder. However, most children with a family history of bipolar disorder will not develop the illness..."
Having a bipolar parent is not a guarantee that a child will have bipolar disorder, but it definitely increases their odds. All I intended to convey is that this child should be watched for signs of bipolar disorder. I did not advocate for abortion or any other deleterious treatment for this child.
There must be a same sex couple waiting to adopt and social services did not want to delay filling their order.
Pretty disgusting story. But why should anyone be surprised? Forty years of legal abortions have led to a complete moral collapse of understanding between mother and child. Bipolar disorder is highly treatable but, whether it is or not, this is a horror of the first order. For shame!
And who should watch for this child to turn out to be bipolar? The government? I can’t help but think of Zelda Fitzgerald’s daughter, Scottie, who despite her mother’s almost unprecedented level of mental illness, turned out to be a distinguished writer and mother of five.
Inherited or learned?
Read my post, with the sources. Inherited.
Risk Factors blood relative--periods of increase stress--drug/alcohol abuse-- physical health such as heart, thyroid obesity may be contribution factors or found with combination may lead to problem..
Certain health problems may be genetic in nature. On my mothers side of the family, diabetes usually in males and according to my mother skip 1 generation. She warned me when my kids were very young, especially my 4 sons...2 have diabetes, 3 don't but my brothers one girl is insulin dependent. A first female in 5 generations according to my mother.....the problem on my husbands side is heart attacks in the 40's. 2 of my 5 children has their first episode in their mid 40's. There father died at 51 and I was always after them to pay attention to their bodies..Being aware saved both of them. They have both passed the age when their father died. But I was the only one in my family to have a mild case of Bi Polar disorder. Not having any member of the family with certain disorders is no guarantee that others will have the same disorder...
And as the Mayo clinic states, being in a hypo-manic stage, it is a feeling of feeling great. He would know by looking at me if I was slipping up. But never had an so called uncontrollable problems. I had a doctor that knew shit from shinola..
So I learned something from you, thanks, genetic pre disposition as a factor was not known to me..but it is not the only factor. Life is a crap shoot I always say. You never know whats going to come up...
“(Or for the nuclear option, invade her cranium and remove any potentially troubling parts.)”
Are you claiming to have discovered the long sought “Liberal Lobe” in the Democrat brain?
Uh, there is a definite familial component to Bi Polar Affective Disorder. Significantly higher probability if a parent has it.
I beg to differ with you. The Mayo Clinic, the WebMD and many other influential organizations pronounce that genetics play a role in bipolar disorders. Google can be your friend.
I think you are right about that. They seem to have completely cracked up.
This story is really an outrage. The woman isn’t even a British Citizen. The Brit gov’t has basically assaulted her, with the risk of grave bodily harm (even death) and kidnapped her child. Do they do this stuff all the time over there?
So, It Has Begun...........
Child taken from womb by social services>>>>>>>>>>>>>
They must have seen the child across a crowded womb./S
Why not let her deliver the child naturally?
Thisnis barbaric. Next they are going to mandate abortion. Pro choice my arse.
Even Hillary is speaking of sustainable development.
Ah yes, those fabians who come out the closet doing horrible things once it is legalized, protected or empowered. Wolves in sheeps clothing is their moto.
They basically kidnapped an Italian kid... wow... welcome to the EU. This is litteraly grounds for a war.
Wow! They didn't even call a doctor?
The three million US citizens who continue safely to travel to Britain each year don't appear to share that view.
I used to think Britain was a worthwhile country, but to even islamics practice such barbarity?
I am heartbroken for the mother. A pregnant Italian woman travels to England for training with her job and suffers a panic attack. She is then taken by force to a mental hospital where they sedate her and take her baby by c section. 15 months later the child is still in the British social system. They never consulted her family or courts in Italy.
But, after the abuse of being taken from the mother and put in a system during this critical time, who knows what problems the baby will have.
I can’t help but think there is some sort of corruption going on (someone paid off for a newborn) . Perhaps it is easier to comprehend corruption than this sort of evil.
You didn’t make that baby, the State made that baby. Rip it out of her thieving body and lock her up.
Well thankfully, you are OK, because we ban people who talk crap.
Oh, and be careful when you have to dismount from your high horse after reading this:
p.s we are still a worthwhile country.
From an earlier column: she is seperated from her American husband.
“By now a new twist had entered the story. Supported by the mother, her American husband from whom she is amicably separated, and who is the father of her eldest daughter asked that the baby be sent to Los Angeles to live with his sister, herself a very capable mother, described by her US lawyer as a rock. British law is clear that wherever possible children should be adopted by members of their wider family. But in March, Essex social services ruled that this was unacceptable because, even though she was the aunt of the babys stepsister, the American woman had no blood tie to the baby. So, rather than allow the child to be looked after by her kin, she must be sent to live with complete strangers.”
Maybe Elton John wants to buy another baby.
Didn’t Mia Farrow star in a movie about this?
For You formed my inward parts;
You covered me in my mothers womb.
Ssssh, don’t tell them that, once they figure out that we have private hospitals as well as the NHS, then they’ll think it’s ok to come here and criticise in person
I suppose the question is germane. Sawney Beane, truth or myth?
“...The Brit govt has basically assaulted her,...”
Nah... yer overreacting....
EVERYBODY knows that When governments do stuff like this it’s clearly not assault. It’s “for the common good”.
It’s only “assault” when YOU fight back, dontcha know... or try to prevent them from harming you. THEN it’s “assault” and whatever else they can dream up.
Gots ta get it right, friend!!!!
(hope I don’t need the /sarc tag here...)
Good question, probably myth, perhaps based on some reality, but like many myths, grossly exaggerated.
BTW, I am not blindly defending Essex NHS in this case, I am as uneasy as everyone else here, I am just pointing out that such case aren’t exclusive to old Limeyville.
You still living over here, in this dump of a country?. Why, lol.
Essex Social Services (or SS if you wish lol), not NHS.
And to top it off they refuse to allow her to have her child back because she may suffer a relapse, even though she is now taking her medication.
So they can take a child away just on the possibility that someone with a condition may relapse?
“Bipolar disorder is highly heritable. The baby has a high chance of being bipolar as well.”