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Washington Post Op-Ed Goes Viral: End Presidential Term Limits (With Poll to FReep)
Mediaite ^ | November 30, 2013 | Andrew Kirell

Posted on 11/30/2013 7:35:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

An op-ed in the Washington Post went viral this week as it drew controversy advocating for an end to presidential term limits.

In the piece, bluntly titled “End presidential term limits,” New York University history professor Jonathan Zimmerman suggests that the 22nd Amendment limiting presidents to two terms of office should be repealed as a way to assuring a more effective presidency and protecting democracy from a leader without fear of voters’ wrath.

Citing the treatment of President Obama in the wake of his troubled Affordable Care Act rollout and a nuclear deal with Iran, Zimmerman argued that if Obama could run again, he might not be facing such “fervent objections” on the former from Democratic leaders like Bill Clinton; and, on the latter, from Sens. Charles Schumer (D-NY) and Robert Menendez (D-NJ).

“Democratic lawmakers would worry about provoking the wrath of a president who could be reelected. Thanks to term limits, though, they’ve got little to fear,” Zimmerman wrote, adding that a term-limited president does not “have to fear the voters, which might be the scariest problem of all.”

“If he chooses,” the professor continued, “[a term-limited president] could simply ignore their will. And if the people wanted him to serve another term, why shouldn’t they be allowed to award him one?”

Ultimately, Zimmerman concluded:

It’s time to put that power back where it belongs. When Ronald Reagan was serving his second term, some Republicans briefly floated the idea of removing term limits so he could run again. The effort went nowhere, but it was right on principle. Barack Obama should be allowed to stand for re election just as citizens should be allowed to vote for — or against — him. Anything less diminishes our leaders and ourselves.

What do you think? Should the 22nd Amendment be repealed and presidential term limits be overturned? Take our poll below:

Repeal Presidential Term Limits?

Yes

No


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: constitution; obama; presidency; termlimits
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1 posted on 11/30/2013 7:35:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny.

I have been demanding for a long time that presidents be restricted to a single term Guess we can compromise and keep it at two.


2 posted on 11/30/2013 7:37:13 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
New York University history professor Jonathan Zimmerman suggests that the 22nd Amendment limiting presidents to two terms of office should be repealed as a way to assuring a more effective presidency and protecting democracy from a leader without fear of voters’ wrath.

Huh?
3 posted on 11/30/2013 7:38:25 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To see the idiot’s favorability descend into the single digits...


4 posted on 11/30/2013 7:39:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every second term of a Democrat we get the same story. It will not happen. Besides, pResident Cloward-Piven doesn’t need a third term to overwhelm the system. We have already gone past the point of no return.


5 posted on 11/30/2013 7:39:50 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; dynachrome

Ping Dynachrome!


6 posted on 11/30/2013 7:39:50 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I knew that this impostor would want a third term or probably a term for life if he can pull it off.


7 posted on 11/30/2013 7:40:50 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What this fool doesn’t realize is that if we did change the Constitution, then Bill Clinton would be reelected until his death by the blacks and women in this country. Had such a changed happened 14 years ago, Barack Obama would still be a “community organizer” in Chicago.(A silver lining? LOL)
But this is just my opinion about two voting groups in this country.


8 posted on 11/30/2013 7:41:50 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It sounds as though the commie piggies down at the WaPo are into kings, queens, emperors and dictators. They just can’t help themselves. What a bunch of fascist retards.


9 posted on 11/30/2013 7:42:34 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my health insurance policy?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They could at least publish such an editorial when we have a President who isn’t a bucket of scum.


10 posted on 11/30/2013 7:42:43 PM PST by stevem
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To: BenLurkin

Not without repealing the 16th and 17th.


11 posted on 11/30/2013 7:43:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: BenLurkin

i’m for making EVERY elected office one-term only


12 posted on 11/30/2013 7:43:54 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like you constitution, you can keep it. Period.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama plans to never leave the WH while there’s anyone alive in the US. And his accomplices plan to help him.

What you need is millions of Daleks.


13 posted on 11/30/2013 7:45:19 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; 2ndDivisionVet
RE :”End Presidential Term Limits (With Poll to FReep)”

LOL, laugh ping!

Argues that Obama would be a better POTUS in his second term if he thought he would/could get a himself third term, and on and on.

Add this to the repeal 17th idea list.

14 posted on 11/30/2013 7:45:59 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
George Washington set the standard - TWO TERMS. FDR showed his hubris by running for a third and then a fourth term.

Professional politicians are destroying the REPUBLIC.

15 posted on 11/30/2013 7:47:01 PM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Won’t happen because 8 years is more than enough. After the last 3 two-termers, one 6-year term and out looks better.

Clinton fatigue.

Bush fatigue.

Obama fatigue (and he still has 3 years to go).

8 year is more than enough.


16 posted on 11/30/2013 7:47:09 PM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

coulldn’t we ELIMINATE some of these offices?..


17 posted on 11/30/2013 7:47:53 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll bet this guy’s quiet on the issue when a Republican’s in his second term.


18 posted on 11/30/2013 7:49:12 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is like saying that a crimnal engaged in mugging and robbing you is only taking everything he can because he knows he won’t be able to come back tomorrow for more.

It’s your fault he takes it all at the first opportunity because your laws are restrictive and force him to get it while he can.

After all, the criminal wouldn’t take everthing he could get his hands on if he had your assurances he could come back and rob you again, and again, and again without fear of being stopped.


19 posted on 11/30/2013 7:50:32 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NO 77.52%


20 posted on 11/30/2013 7:51:01 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just like Obama has fake twitter followers this piece going ‘viral’ is probably more a function of some Dem war room antics paid for by George Soros.

Blacks are democrats largest voting block but they’re not techies... I don’t believe this went viral. Feels like a lie.


21 posted on 11/30/2013 7:53:18 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Mr. K

Agreed.

Or two terms at the most.


22 posted on 11/30/2013 7:54:14 PM PST by berdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it the dark side always want to tear down fairness. you never hear this mentioned with effective presidents, only the screw ups like BHO and Roosevelt.


23 posted on 11/30/2013 7:55:58 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Rafael Cruz is an American hero)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Zimmerman's campaign contribution history:

ZIMMERMAN, JONATHAN
NEW YORK, NY 10075
RETIRED

   DNC SERVICES CORPORATION/DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE
  09/30/2008 7700.00 29990044728

ZIMMERMAN, JONATHAN
NEW YORK, NY 10075
SELF EMPLOYED

   OBAMA, BARACK
    VIA OBAMA FOR AMERICA
  09/30/2008 2300.00 11972621967

ZIMMERMAN, JONATHAN
NEW YORK, NY 10075
SELF-EMPLOYED

   OBAMA, BARACK
    VIA OBAMA FOR AMERICA
  02/20/2012 2500.00 12951923008
  02/20/2012 2500.00 12951923264

ZIMMERMAN, JONATHAN
NEW YORK, NY 10075
RETIRED

   OBAMA VICTORY FUND
  09/30/2008 10000.00 28994344064

ZIMMERMAN, JONATHAN
NEW YORK, NY 10075
SELF-EMPLOYED/RETIRED

   OBAMA VICTORY FUND 2012
  02/20/2012 35800.00 12971271148

24 posted on 11/30/2013 7:57:42 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: WilliamRobert

IMHO, the two-term amendment keeps this society from using more lethal means of removing a sitting politician. Just remember what goes around, comes around!


25 posted on 11/30/2013 7:59:17 PM PST by jayrunner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who didn’t see this coming. And so it begins.


26 posted on 11/30/2013 7:59:49 PM PST by Newbomb Turk ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 45semi; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; AmericaUnite; ...
Obozo = FDR, so why not 4 terms? or more? You be racist if you object!/s
Thanks to Jack Hydrazine for da ping!

FREEP THIS POLL ***PING!*** FRmail me if you want to be added or removed from the Fearless Poll-Freeping Freepers Ping list. (multiple votes using multiple internetz devices are allowed!) And be sure to ping me to any polls that need Freepin', if I miss them. (looks like a medium volume list) (gordongekko909, founder of the pinglist, stays on the list until his ghost signs up for the list)

27 posted on 11/30/2013 8:01:46 PM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not only no, but hell no! Limit the senators too.


28 posted on 11/30/2013 8:01:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

And the judges.


29 posted on 11/30/2013 8:02:13 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They always talk about perceived benefits. Never about the known problems.


30 posted on 11/30/2013 8:02:48 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks - facts clear things up...


31 posted on 11/30/2013 8:03:44 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I followed the link “YES” was already selected on the poll and there was no way to unselect it!

Vox populi checkmated by deus ex machina.


32 posted on 11/30/2013 8:04:27 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Zhang Fei

That is a lot of Obama worshipping


33 posted on 11/30/2013 8:04:34 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: BenLurkin

My thought, too.

How about one term for members of the House and Senate, also?


34 posted on 11/30/2013 8:06:27 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

NYU has rapidly become one of the top universities to promote marxism and authoritarianism. Guess Prof. Zimmerman is the new kid on the “bloc”.

Hey, if you don’t like the Constitution, ignore it (Obama) or change it (Obama asskissers and worshippers).

Gee, it really looks like the Republicans/conservatives are the real defenders of the Constitution, which they have bothered to read (Plus the Federalist papers, Madison and Jefferson papers, etc).

Ask a Democrat what the Constitution is, and they reply, our daily workout to keep our bodies pure.

With a massive pool of low-education voters, Obama would be crowned king of the plantation ad infinitum. He won his victory almost before he was born when the communists decided, as one of their multi-pronged attacks on America, to infiltrate the schools and pervert and warp what children used to be taught about our country.

And they succeeded. When Bill the terrorist Ayers (and friend of the President) is looked upon by many major universities and foundations as a leader in education, then you know that something major is wrong with our system.

Those who were young children in the late 60’s and early 70’s are now low- education voters on the Democratic plantation. No Jim Crow anymore but a new slavemaster, the welfare/freebies Democratic Party led by its marxist wing.

And now you know some of the story.


35 posted on 11/30/2013 8:06:31 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Newbomb Turk

“Who didn’t see this coming. And so it begins.”
______________________________________________________
I think we ALL saw this coming. They will try anything to keep their lord commie guy in power. He is doing such a magnificent job of destroying America.


36 posted on 11/30/2013 8:07:43 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

78% NO
21% Yes


37 posted on 11/30/2013 8:08:04 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes 21.71%

No 78.29%


38 posted on 11/30/2013 8:08:14 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Op-Eds are like assholes - everybody’s got one ...


39 posted on 11/30/2013 8:09:08 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: cripplecreek

He’s not too bright.


40 posted on 11/30/2013 8:11:36 PM PST by Ray76
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To: AlexW

I’m more surprised there is so LITTLE of this kind of talk.


41 posted on 11/30/2013 8:11:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama is a major reason we should limit a president to no more than one term. He created enough damage to this country that it will take 50 years to recover from his disastrous time in the oval office.
42 posted on 11/30/2013 8:13:17 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority! 11.06.12 - Day of Infamy!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman is the poster boy for what’s wrong with the so-called “education system”.


43 posted on 11/30/2013 8:13:39 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think presidents ought to have one six-year term.


44 posted on 11/30/2013 8:15:01 PM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leaders who do not have fear of voters are normally termed dictators. But whatever.


45 posted on 11/30/2013 8:15:11 PM PST by randita
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes 20.97%

No 79.03%


46 posted on 11/30/2013 8:19:58 PM PST by Gator113 ( Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and Mike Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

The reason that the referenced WAPO article went viral is probably because low-information voters don’t understand that the federal government has no constitutional Article V authority to ratify proposed amendments to the Constitution, the states uniquely having such power.

And enthusiasm for repealing 22nd Amendement will probably die down, like it has before, because corrupt feds likely don’t want voters to understand the following. They don’t want voters to catch on to the idea that, since only the states can ratify proposed amendments, the states have absolute control over the feds, not vice versa as many low-info voters undoubtedly think. After all, if such knowledge became widespread then it would likely throw a monkey wrench into the Progressive Movement agenda to unconstitutionally centralize government power in DC.


47 posted on 11/30/2013 8:20:49 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: frogjerk

FDR is the single best reason to keep the limit at two terms. Obozo is the best reason to limit it to one.


48 posted on 11/30/2013 8:28:13 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes 20.77%

No 79.23%

This is all we are gonna hear now - how little king barry needs more time to complete his UNCONSTIUTIONAL TRANSFORMATION of the USA, and continue his voter mandate of redistribution the wealth of the USA.
49 posted on 11/30/2013 8:28:16 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Zhang Fei

“,,
OBAMA VICTORY FUND 2012
02/20/2012 35800.00 “

WOW!!


50 posted on 11/30/2013 8:29:13 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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