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To: Moseley

I think Jesus would probably classify Himself as a communalist, one who would be most comfortable in a commune.

But you must understand His perspective. All value is from God the Father and God the Father’s resources are inexhaustible. Therefore, we should gladly give all we have to the poor or to the church because God can supply us everything we could ever need.

I think that’s okay if you can find yourself in a society where everyone puts God’s desires above their own and there is no selfishness. However, such a utopian society can’t truly co=exist with our still-sinful state because we still have egos, envy and greed which would eventually corrupt a communal society.

Since that society is unworkable in our mortal state, capitalism combined with charity are the next best option. We work for our wages and give generously to the church and to those in need, not just in cash but with other resources. That’s what I try to practice.


41 posted on 12/01/2013 5:55:21 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: OrangeHoof
Since that society is unworkable in our mortal state, capitalism combined with charity are the next best option.

Your comment implies that charity is somehow lacking from capitalism. But both capitalism and charity are rooted in individual freedom.

So tomorrow morning anyone can give money to the poor or to God's work, etc. Nothing needs to be added for charity to happen.

But what will encourage or stimulate people to care about others and to help their fellow man?

Well isn't that what Christianity is -- partly -- about? What if instead of peddling socialism, the Catholic Church did its job of evangelism and taught Jesus' teachings throughout society? And of course not only the Catholic Church, but they just happen to the example in front of us. THe same should be said of every church.


46 posted on 12/01/2013 6:17:55 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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To: OrangeHoof
Therefore, we should gladly give all we have to the poor or to the church because God can supply us everything we could ever need.

But you do recognize a gigantic difference between gladly giving to the poor or to the church and having the government come with guns and take what is yours to give it to someone else, right?

What you are arguing is fine. But it really doesn't have anything to do with government stealing from one person to give to another, does it?

Also, I would not agree with giving "all" that you have to the poor. That is incorrect and even a bit silly.

Jesus said that if you have 2 coats and you see someone with none, give ONE (1) to the person who has none.

Then you have 1 and the other person has 1.

But if you gave both of your coats to the other person, what would happen? Now that person would be obligated to give both of them to you because you have no coat. Then you would be obligated to give both of them to him. Then he would be obligated to give both of them to you. Back and forth, endlessly.


52 posted on 12/01/2013 6:28:46 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.MoseleyComments.com)
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