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Impeachment Over Obamacare?
Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 12/02/2013 5:03:05 AM PST by Kaslin

Since being signed into law by President Obama in 2010, the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare, has been stripped, changed and full of devastating consequences for the American economy and American families. It's clear by now that the White House and Democrats who voted for Obamacare, lied to millions of Americans when they said, "If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep it. Period." We not only saw President Obama admit during a healthcare summit in early 2010 (before signing Obamacare) "that between eight million and nine million people may very well lose the coverage that they have, because of this...And I don’t think that you can answer the question, in the positive, to say that people will be able to maintain their coverage, people will be able to see the doctors they want in the kind of bill that you’re proposing."

Republican Whip Eric Cantor Speaks With President Barack Obama At White House Health Care Summit

Then in September of 2010, every single Senate Democrat voted against a resolution that would allow people to keep their healthcare plans.

In September 2010, Senate Republicans brought a resolution to the floor to block implementation of the grandfather rule, warning that it would result in canceled policies and violate President Barack Obama’s promise that people could keep their insurance if they liked it.

Three years later in November 2013, we saw Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius admit under oath in front of Congress that end-to-end security testing was not done on Healthcare.gov before it was launched on October 1, putting the personal information of Americans at risk and making them vulnerable to fraud and identity theft.

As a result of all of this and the trashing of the U.S. constitution in the process, Associate Professor of Economics at St. John’s University, New York. M. Northrop Buechner is practically making the case for President Obama's impeachment in Forbes:

The Constitution authorizes the President to propose and veto legislation. It does not authorize him to change existing laws. The changes Mr. Obama ordered in Obamacare, therefore, are unconstitutional. This means that he does not accept some of the limitations that the Constitution places on his actions. We cannot know at this point what limitations, if any, he does accept.

By changing the law based solely on his wish, Mr. Obama acted on the principle that the President can rewrite laws and—since this is a principle—not just this law, but any law. After the crash of Obamacare, many Congressmen have implored the President to change the individual mandate the same way he had changed the employer mandate, that is, to violate the Constitution again.

The main responsibility the Constitution assigns to the President is to faithfully execute the Laws. If the President rejects this job, if instead he decides he can change or ignore laws he does not like, then what?

The time will come when Congress passes a law and the President ignores it. Or he may choose to enforce some parts and ignore others (as Mr. Obama is doing now). Or he may not wait for Congress and issue a decree (something Mr. Obama has done and has threatened to do again).

The most important point is that Mr. Obama does not consider himself bound by the Constitution. He could not have made that more clear. He has drawn a line in the concrete and we cannot ignore it.

Impeachment isn't going to happen with a divided Congress, but that doesn't mean there isn't a solid case for it.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; barack0bama; impeachment; obama; obamacare; obamadontcare
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1 posted on 12/02/2013 5:03:06 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The Constitution authorizes the President to propose and veto legislation. It does not authorize him to change existing laws. The changes Mr. Obama ordered in Obamacare, therefore, are unconstitutional

Not sure I agree.

Set aside, for this analysis, that the whole PPACA is unconstitutional (it is).

The "law" has hundreds and hundreds of discretionary elements assigned to the Secretary of HHS, who serves under the President. I do not know for a fact that any of the "changes" are not, per the "law", subject to executive discretion.

Do you?

2 posted on 12/02/2013 5:06:56 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Kaslin

3 posted on 12/02/2013 5:08:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

> Impeachment isn’t going to happen with a divided Congress, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a solid case for it.

I think the real problm is on which grounds to impeach him on. There are so many it gets confusing and the current GOP gets confused and distracted rather easily. Obama is playing keep away from them while his minions are doing major damage...


4 posted on 12/02/2013 5:11:03 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin
RE :”Impeachment isn't going to happen with a divided Congress, but that doesn't mean there isn't a solid case for it.”

I heard a certain talk radio show host say this last week.

There is a very traditional, popular and fully legal process for going about this that took place last November, it was called the election and it failed.

5 posted on 12/02/2013 5:12:37 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Kaslin

Sure, why not?

We gotta impeach him for SOMETHING...


6 posted on 12/02/2013 5:15:53 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Kaslin

Anyone suggesting impeachment before winning the Senate in 2014 is an absolute moron. Sorry but I said it. Read freaking book already.


7 posted on 12/02/2013 5:17:24 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Kaslin

If the Republican majority in the House were anything other than TOTAL GUTLESS COWARDS they would have been submitting articles of impeachment against Traitorobama and thugs every day Congress was in session.

They must figure that their oath of office doesn’t really count if they had their fingers crossed when they took it.


8 posted on 12/02/2013 5:20:25 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: sickoflibs

Or was it stolen


9 posted on 12/02/2013 5:25:34 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Jim Noble

There are fixed dates in the law. These are not mere suggestions, or gentle hints. They are not subject to executive modification.

Obama is failing to faithfully execute the laws and therefore is violating his oath of office.

This is the most fundamental impeachable offense.


10 posted on 12/02/2013 5:26:06 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Kaslin

IMO, the first black president will NEVER be impeached.


11 posted on 12/02/2013 5:27:31 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: TheRhinelander

Even after the 2014 elections, it’s not going to happen. Any attempt to impeach Obama would lead to massive social upheavel. I do believe if the Reps take the Senate, he could end up resigning. He is the type who would totally take his ball and run home.


12 posted on 12/02/2013 5:27:43 AM PST by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: Kaslin

If you don’t like your president, you have to keep your president.


13 posted on 12/02/2013 5:28:32 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished.)
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To: Kaslin

A pre-meditated, amplified lie, lock-step deceit from a party and willing accomplices in the USSC dictate the most evil piece of legislation ever FORCED on “free” Americans.

FUBO, FUJR, FUUSSC & FUCONgress

TOTALITARIANS are FORCING us pay the BILL for NO RIGHTS.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/

http://www.usdebtclock.org

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians


14 posted on 12/02/2013 5:28:36 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Kaslin

This is about raw political power. i.e., self interest. If enough Democrats threaten Zippy with impeachment or appeal Obamacare then he will do it because he and Michelle like living in the White House. That’s all there is to it.


15 posted on 12/02/2013 5:30:21 AM PST by quantumman
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To: Guenevere
RE :”Or was it stolen”

Libs were making the same claim in 2005.
I recall Barbara Boxer and BCC in House held up GWB electors for an hour by filing a protest over ‘voter fraud’.

Didnt go too far.

16 posted on 12/02/2013 5:36:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Jim Noble
The "law" has hundreds and hundreds of discretionary elements assigned to the Secretary of HHS, who serves under the President. I do not know for a fact that any of the "changes" are not, per the "law", subject to executive discretion.

Do you?

No. In fact, no one does.

And that's the problem with the legislative branch passing a law with "hundreds and hundreds of discretionary elements assigned" to the executive branch. It appears they actually DID need to 'pass it in order to find out what is in it' -- or at any rate, to find out HOW 'what is in it' would be implemented and enforced.

I think multi-thousand-page laws which include hundreds and hundreds of discretionary elements actually invite violations of the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, and that such violations are practically inevitable given the [current] scope of, and political nature of, our federal government.

Perhaps we need a constitutional amendment which limits the total number of words in any new law to no more than were included in the original constitution, as it was ratified in 1789?

;-)

17 posted on 12/02/2013 5:37:21 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: TheRhinelander
Anyone suggesting impeachment before winning the Senate in 2014 is an absolute moron.

And what is that going to solve?

18 posted on 12/02/2013 5:37:47 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: duckman

Agreed.

SHOULD he be impeached? Probably.

WILL he be impeached? Not in a million years.


19 posted on 12/02/2013 5:38:14 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Guenevere
Or was it stolen.

Because after all how could a candidate the likes of Mitt Romney ever loose? </sarcasm>

20 posted on 12/02/2013 5:39:28 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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