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ATF Releases U.S. Firearms Trace Data for 2012
Ammoland ^ | 20 June, 2013 | JPFO

Posted on 12/02/2013 5:50:37 AM PST by marktwain

Firearms Trace Data 2012 New York Sample

Firearms Trace Data 2012 New York Sample

ATF

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

WASHINGTON - -(Ammoland.com)-  The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) today released firearms trace data for all individual states and territories for calendar year 2012.

The 2012 report includes first time released demographics data which includes a state–by–state breakdown of crime guns recovered and traced, age ranges of firearm possessor at the time of recovery, the type and caliber of firearms, and the criminal offense associated with the crime gun.

Firearms tracing provides information on the movement of a firearm from its first sale by a manufacturer or importer through the distribution chain in an attempt to identify the first retail purchaser. A firearms trace is typically conducted when a law enforcement agency recovers a firearm at a crime scene and needs to know the origin of that firearm in order to develop investigative leads. Trace information can link a suspect to a firearm in a criminal investigation, identify potential traffickers, and detect in–state, interstate and international patterns in the sources and types of crime guns.

ATF’s National Tracing Center (NTC) is the nation’s only crime gun tracing facility. The NTC provides critical information that assists domestic and international law enforcement agencies solve firearms crimes, detect firearms trafficking and identify trends with respect to intrastate, interstate and international movement of crime guns. The NTC traced more than 344,000 crime guns in calendar year 2012.

ATF is dedicated to reducing firearms trafficking and firearms–related violent crime.

For more information or to view the 2012 firearms trace data, please see our web site at Firearms Trace Data – 2012. https://www.atf.gov/statistics/trace-data/2012-trace-data.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; crime; guncontrol; ntc; trace; tracingcenter
Lots of information. The vast majority of the traces are for simple possession. Violent crime accounts for a tiny percentage.
1 posted on 12/02/2013 5:50:37 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

20 “machine guns” hey. There’s some credibility for you.


2 posted on 12/02/2013 5:52:05 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: marktwain

Even the ATF is calling them “machineguns”!!?? WTFrick


3 posted on 12/02/2013 5:59:19 AM PST by Paul46360
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To: Paul46360

On the plus side I don’t see assault weapons on there anyplace.


4 posted on 12/02/2013 6:01:45 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

I expected Ammoland to provide more meaningful details.

Just because NY has criminalized mere possession in many cases, doesn’t have any significance regarding violent crime.


5 posted on 12/02/2013 6:01:45 AM PST by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: driftdiver
On the plus side I don’t see assault weapons on there anyplace.

Can't say for sure. But I wouldn't be surprised if "machine gun" = "Assault Weapon" = Scary Looking, long baralled firearm. Not much credibility there.

6 posted on 12/02/2013 6:37:42 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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To: marktwain
So, if they can trace these “crime” guns, do they also have the ability to trace non-crime guns? Could one conclude that all guns are registered, and therefore, all guns can be confiscated?
7 posted on 12/02/2013 6:38:04 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: Paul46360

“Even the ATF is calling them “machineguns”!!??”

Yes, in several states. I’m sure they don’t mean full auto weapons, there are way too many of them traced for that.

When you do propaganda and disinformation you have to be ubiquitous and consistent, spreading the stuff evenly in all information outlets.


8 posted on 12/02/2013 6:38:06 AM PST by DBrow
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To: deweyfrank

They can take pretty much any gun and trace it back to the last FFL that sold it.

Antiques, inherited firearms, and illegally imported guns or bootleg manufactured guns are not very traceable, but anything coming out of a US factory or legal imports will be traceable to some extent.


9 posted on 12/02/2013 6:40:32 AM PST by DBrow
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To: driftdiver

To the LSM: machinegun = assault weapon


10 posted on 12/02/2013 6:52:55 AM PST by Paul46360
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To: marktwain

THEY omitted flame throwers, mortars, recoiless`s, `105 howitzers of which there are some in cow barns up here under the hay. and some buried in the orchard `n cisterns waitin` for that day...


11 posted on 12/02/2013 7:24:19 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Paul46360

A useful dimension in the graphic would be defining the “rifle”. You would think the ATF would delineate a “fully automatic” rifle vs. a “semi-automatic”. But, “machine gun” does cover it if they were to differentiate.

Does point out how few actual “machine guns” turned up, despite the libs labeling all semi-auto rifles as “military style” assault rifles. So points can be made from this— it JUST ain’t so libs.


12 posted on 12/02/2013 7:35:31 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Paul46360

Which is partially correct in a highly narrow def. as you know.

Moron readers would not understand “auto-loading, select fire assault rifle” and it is to their lib advantage to describe them all as “assault rifles” Really quite annoying.

Calling a camaro a maserati or a lotus as “the same thing”—


13 posted on 12/02/2013 7:38:14 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: marktwain

I wonder if these numbers include guns that were stolen, then recovered (being the subject of a crime, without being used in a crime).


14 posted on 12/02/2013 8:13:50 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: big'ol_freeper
20 “machine guns” hey. There’s some credibility for you.

Georgia's numbers for "Machine Guns" is quite high. 128. That's nearly 19% of all "Machine Guns" recovered in that period (679 total). There's an excel file "Types by state" that gives the totals by state near the bottom of the page.

15 posted on 12/02/2013 8:42:05 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
There's an excel file "Types by state" that gives the totals by state near the bottom of the page.

Sorry, not at the bottom of Ammo Land's page, but at the linked ATF page.

16 posted on 12/02/2013 8:43:35 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: DBrow
Antiques, inherited firearms, and illegally imported guns or bootleg manufactured guns are not very traceable, but anything coming out of a US factory or legal imports will be traceable to some extent.

The big factors are "inherited firearms" and "privately sold firearms".

A properly-cared-for firearm will last many decades. One of the best things that an elderly person could do for his younger relatives would be to purchase some number of firearms, gift them to his kids, nieces, and nephews, and ensure that all records of such gifts cease to exist upon his death.

17 posted on 12/02/2013 8:51:47 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: deweyfrank

ATF trace means that the ATF can follow the legitimate sale of a firearm by serial number; from manufacturer to distributor to retail seller and original buyer (via the 4473 on file at the retail premises).

Once a firearm is moved past an original seller to a private sale, theft or other non-recorded transfer the trail ends.

Usually the only positive result of a trace is that the stolen arms, if not seized as evidence then declared contraband, can be returned to the lawful owner. Happens about twice a century...

But yes, all original sales of firearms from a retailer to a private person are record, on a 4473 at the premises, and when that dealer stops selling on a an FFL ot they lose their license, all 4473s must be forwarded to the ATF for archiving..... A defacto registration indeed.

Buy second hand....


18 posted on 12/02/2013 8:54:58 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: IYAS9YAS

My point was their picture is of an AR-15, with the title “machine guns”, which is not a machine gun anymore than a semi-automatic hunting rifle is. A machine gun is full automatic.


19 posted on 12/02/2013 9:21:35 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: big'ol_freeper
My point was their picture is of an AR-15, with the title “machine guns”, which is not a machine gun anymore than a semi-automatic hunting rifle is. A machine gun is full automatic.

I got ya. That's why I put "Machine Guns" in quotes. I'd like to see the ATF's definition, as these numbers are represented on their pages. I was just making a note that GA had far more "Machine Guns" traced than any other state.

20 posted on 12/02/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Manly Warrior; DBrow

Thanks for that info.


21 posted on 12/02/2013 9:49:56 AM PST by deweyfrank
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