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U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post
washintontimes.com ^ | 12/2/13 | Cheryl K. Chumley

Posted on 12/02/2013 12:25:05 PM PST by ColdOne

U.S. military authorities dispatched the first of six top-tech submarine-hunting jets to its Okinawa post near the disputed East China Sea, a move sure to ratchet up tensions among China and the United States.

The Navy plans to send in a total of six P-8 Poseidon patrol craft, aimed at bolstering the United States’ ability to root out submarines in the area, Reuters reported. The deployment was planned months ago, but nonetheless comes as China declared an air defense zone above islands that it’s fighting Japan to control.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: china; japan; republicofkorea; waronterror

1 posted on 12/02/2013 12:25:05 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: TigersEye

Pei-Ping.


2 posted on 12/02/2013 12:27:33 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ColdOne

Didn’t we go through this in April of 2001?


3 posted on 12/02/2013 12:28:01 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ColdOne

Heating up


4 posted on 12/02/2013 12:28:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: ColdOne

Rouge Generals? Has to be. obama sent skerry over with copies of all our new bills.


5 posted on 12/02/2013 12:29:25 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ColdOne

just for clarification ... that misspelling was purposely done.


7 posted on 12/02/2013 12:32:07 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: massgopguy

Was this the type of aircraft that was forced down during the early Bush years? If so, I wonder if they were able to glean any intel and then design systems to deal with the P8.


8 posted on 12/02/2013 12:32:41 PM PST by bubbacluck (America 180)
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To: F15Eagle

Might be.


9 posted on 12/02/2013 12:33:03 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

We live in interesting times.


10 posted on 12/02/2013 12:33:42 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

VERY interesting.

They keep playing their games, and I keep prepping.


11 posted on 12/02/2013 12:35:08 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: GeronL

AAAGGHHH!!!


12 posted on 12/02/2013 12:35:14 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: liege

That was P-3 Orion “intelligence gathering” aircraft


13 posted on 12/02/2013 12:36:05 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Lazamataz

Battery japed me.


14 posted on 12/02/2013 12:36:24 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ColdOne

Maybe this time we’ll land a P-8 Poseidon at the Shanghai airport?

At least the crew can do some sightseeing this time after turning over our Top Secret spy plane to the Communists.


15 posted on 12/02/2013 12:36:24 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: liege
Was this the type of aircraft that was forced down during the early Bush years?

No. The plane forced down during the Bush years was a P-3 Orion, based on the turboprop Electra airframe.

The P-8 Poseidons are jet-powered, based on the Boeing 737 airframe.

16 posted on 12/02/2013 12:36:39 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Lazamataz; no-to-illegals

NTI- Hope you are okay

.....

Just for those who don’t know....

“May you live in interesting times” is a very old Chinese curse.


17 posted on 12/02/2013 12:37:54 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ColdOne; All

“The deployment was planned months ago...”

Bullsh!t!!!


18 posted on 12/02/2013 12:38:15 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: GeronL; Lazamataz

Dang Battery ... That will learn me to not be wiring anything and trying to type at the same time.


19 posted on 12/02/2013 12:40:09 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Army Air Corps

Give me a ping and one ping only, Ping.


20 posted on 12/02/2013 12:46:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: GeronL
Hey I think that electrocution did something to help my heart. May go in for another jap.
21 posted on 12/02/2013 12:47:14 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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zap ... zap ... zap ... dang misspellings now have another whole country mad at me.


22 posted on 12/02/2013 12:50:00 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: okie01

Isn’t an Orion for ASW? I thought that the aircraft forced down had a different mission than ASW. Some kind of electronic surveillance mission. Maybe it had the same airframe, but different equipment on board.


23 posted on 12/02/2013 1:20:05 PM PST by virgil
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To: no-to-illegals

Jap. Zap. Jot. Zot.


24 posted on 12/02/2013 1:20:57 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: ColdOne
While the P-3C Orion used to hunt subs down and dirty from 200 feet, the P-8A Poseidon loafs along at 20,000 feet and has yet to be cleared for deployment of ASW weapons such as the Mk 46 and Mk 50 torpedoes. The P-8A is designed to work with BAMS (the Navy's version of the Global Hawk UAV). I don't think they've got this to work either. Bottom line is the P-3C can do the job; the P-8A is doubtful. The Navy has retired all its dedicated S-3B Viking ASW aircraft and the only shipboard assets are the MH-60R Sea Hawk helicopter.
25 posted on 12/02/2013 1:21:18 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

And the P-8 has a shorter on station time and burns more fuel.

IOW, it can’t do the job. it can’t not do the job for as long, and it cost more to run.

What’s not to love?


26 posted on 12/02/2013 1:23:58 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: virgil

An EP-3 Aries was the plane forced down.


27 posted on 12/02/2013 1:26:41 PM PST by JMK (Escaped from NJ during the Florio years!)
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To: virgil

Most are of the ASW version but some are of an ELINT version. And yes, I think the one forced down was an ELINT version.


28 posted on 12/02/2013 1:28:49 PM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: null and void

It does get on station quicker.


29 posted on 12/02/2013 1:30:10 PM PST by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: virgil
Isn’t an Orion for ASW? I thought that the aircraft forced down had a different mission than ASW. Some kind of electronic surveillance mission.

Same plane. Different electronics.

30 posted on 12/02/2013 1:33:38 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: JMK

And the pilot is currently running for the Republican senate nomination in Nebraska.


31 posted on 12/02/2013 1:36:49 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

I knew he was running, but couldn’t remember in which state. My son is reading Shane Osborne’s autobiography for a report; he’s a 12-year-old Civil Air Patrol cadet, and already has the intention of attending one of the military academies.


32 posted on 12/02/2013 1:46:53 PM PST by JMK (Escaped from NJ during the Florio years!)
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To: null and void
Stupidity runs rampant in NavAir.
33 posted on 12/02/2013 1:56:06 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: okie01
The EP-3E, forced to land in Chinese territory after colliding with a MiG fighter, was an electronic intelligence gathering conversion of the P-3C ASW platform. They are conversions of the P-3C airframe.
34 posted on 12/02/2013 2:00:29 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: ColdOne

Another “ratchet tension” excuse to bring in discussions and opportunities for handovers for Obama.

If I were the military I would protest this betrayal.


35 posted on 12/02/2013 2:16:46 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: virgil; MasterGunner01

See #34


36 posted on 12/02/2013 2:23:27 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: gaijin
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Sounds like a naval exercise ... I bet you there are some (friendly) ultra-quiet diesel subs in the area, being tracked by both Los Angeles 688 attack subs and the P-8s ...


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37 posted on 12/02/2013 3:12:39 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Lazamataz; Kartographer
and I keep prepping.

You are so screwed.

/johnny

38 posted on 12/02/2013 4:30:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ColdOne
The aircraft in question:


39 posted on 12/02/2013 4:51:16 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: null and void; ColdOne
Gee ... am off to write an apology to ColdOne. ColdOne, my apology.
40 posted on 12/02/2013 6:45:51 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

Was it something I said???


41 posted on 12/02/2013 6:51:29 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: liege

I believe the plane you are thinking about was a P-3 Orion.

4 Pratt & Whitney Turbo Prop engines. Heavily gutted and modified domestic short haul and commercial airliner.

The P-8 appears to be a bigger, more gadget filled version of the old S-3 Viking or “Hoover”.


42 posted on 12/02/2013 9:16:51 PM PST by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: Jack Deth; liege
The P-8 appears to be a bigger, more gadget filled version of the old S-3 Viking or “Hoover”.

The P-8 Poseidon is based on the Boeing 737-800 airframe.

43 posted on 12/02/2013 9:24:43 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ColdOne

Heeeeeere comes the distraction from Obamacare. I was wondering what the regime would concoct.


44 posted on 12/03/2013 5:59:28 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: null and void

nope but zot gets my attention ... Salute!!!


45 posted on 12/03/2013 11:15:59 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: F15Eagle
Obama needs a Wag the Dog II war to distract the USA sheeple from the coming implosion of tens of millions of healthcare plans.

A war that involved China / Japan / maybe even NK would be a big one.

You're right. However I don't think the Chinese are too worried about 0dumb0! After all they now own & control a good portion of our national +17 Trillion debt, and likely could cause our monetary system to crash simply by calling in for payment, which we don't have. If that is what it takes to get that RAT Bastard socialist commie muzzlim pig 0dumb0 & his demoCRAP party to self destruct, then so be it. I don't think the Chinese are too worried about the faggot 0dumb0 or our current metrosexual/gay/homo military any longer.

46 posted on 12/03/2013 1:31:45 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: okie01
The P-8 Poseidon is based on the Boeing 737-800 airframe.

Funny, I was just reading that the Chicoms are working on an AWACS based on the same platform.

47 posted on 12/03/2013 2:33:15 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: F15Eagle
A war that involved China/Japan/maybe even NK would be a big one

A war like that would also include South Korea, probably spilling over to Taiwan, Guam and the Marianas...

48 posted on 12/04/2013 5:08:07 PM PST by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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