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Pentagon floats plan to close US commissaries
Fox News ^ | 2 Dec 2013 | Justin Fishel, Jennifer Griffin

Posted on 12/02/2013 3:48:59 PM PST by mandaladon

The Pentagon is floating a controversial plan to close all U.S.-based commissaries in 2015 as part of a massive cost-saving effort after more than a decade of war.

The commissaries are grocery stores that offer food and other necessities at a discount to members of the military, their families and veterans. But as Congress tightens the purse strings, the stores could get caught in the budget battle.

Budget cutters say they don't yet know how much money the plan would save, but there are 178 commissaries in the United States -- and 70 overseas -- which receive a total of $1.4 billion in government funds.

The Defense Commissary Agency, responsible for administering all commissaries worldwide, says military families and retirees save an average of more than 30 percent on their grocery bills compared with those who shop at regular retail stores. The agency says those savings amount to thousands of dollars annually per family.

But families could also lose jobs if the stores close. Thirty percent of the employees at the commissaries are military spouses. The director of the Defense Commissary Agency says that they have already cut their budget by $700 million since 1993.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commissaries; military; obama
What this will save is pocket change for Obama's bloated budget.
1 posted on 12/02/2013 3:49:00 PM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

A few extra drones for Obama and no groceries for YOU!


2 posted on 12/02/2013 3:53:25 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: mandaladon

More 0bamanomics...more pain to our military :(


3 posted on 12/02/2013 3:53:56 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: mandaladon

I’d rather redirect some of the funding going to our Afghani “allies” to pay for the commissaries.


4 posted on 12/02/2013 3:54:48 PM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is *always* intense.)
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To: mandaladon

Here’s an idea: lets get rid of obammycare and save some real money—and while we’re at it, let’s cut the number of vacations they can take at our expense in one year—and oh! there will be no more private flights for their dog to join the family for a vacation in HI.

(I’ve always thought that the dog was for show, anyway. As I understand it, Islamists think dogs are dirty)


5 posted on 12/02/2013 3:55:36 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: mandaladon

If they close the class 6 stores, the Earth will burn.


6 posted on 12/02/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by EEGator
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To: mandaladon

They have to pay for those homosexual dependents some way.


7 posted on 12/02/2013 4:00:04 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: mandaladon

“military families and retirees save an average of more than 30 percent on their grocery bills compared with those who shop at regular retail stores.”

How about we compare that percentage to the folks taking food stamps who haven’t put their lives on the line for the rest of us?


8 posted on 12/02/2013 4:00:16 PM PST by Darth Reardon (Is it any wonder I'm not the president?)
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To: mandaladon

they’re floating the idea eh? can we guess WHAT they’re FLOATING IT IN!??


9 posted on 12/02/2013 4:01:39 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: mandaladon
part of a massive cost-saving effort

If they really want a massive cost cutting program, they could use some of the tools of their trade to remove the biggest spender they can find in Washington... or on the golf course.

10 posted on 12/02/2013 4:03:23 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: EEGator

Ha!


11 posted on 12/02/2013 4:05:29 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: mandaladon

But Obama cares for military veterans he says so in his hire veterans ads/s


12 posted on 12/02/2013 4:07:34 PM PST by RginTN
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To: mandaladon

It couldn’t save that much to close them. I would think just keeping costs to whatever the local supermarket sells their product at would be enough.

I don’t believe that it’s being done to save money.


13 posted on 12/02/2013 4:09:11 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: mandaladon
They need the money to redistribute to Obama's Free S**t Army


14 posted on 12/02/2013 4:11:30 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: EEGator
If they close the class 6 stores, the Earth will burn.

A transcendent truth.

15 posted on 12/02/2013 4:17:13 PM PST by Jacquerie (Governor Jerry Brown's legacy - The Brown Streak bullet train.)
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To: Darth Reardon

Good point


16 posted on 12/02/2013 4:23:01 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: mandaladon

Sure, close these.
After they get rid of 80% of all Federal Spending
After they get rid of the ObamaPhones
After they get rid of the Department of Education
After they get rid of DEA Spying on Americans without a warrant
After they get rid of the Department of Energy
After they get rid of 80% of the EPA
After they get rid of ObamaCare
After they get rid of BATFE
After they open drilling on public land to the same amount as when Bush was in office.
After they institute a flat tax of 10% or less (no progressive rates)
After they fully evict the illegal aliens in the country or at least get it down to less than 50k.
After they get rid of Medicaid and Medicare (privatize it)
After they get rid of Social Security Ponzi scheme and make it private.

Then you can do this.

I’m all for priorities, just start on my list first. Then you can cut that.


17 posted on 12/02/2013 4:27:51 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: mandaladon

Recall ALL the Obamaphones before you touch one commissary! Democrats who do this are dirty, rotten, treacherous, evil sloths!


18 posted on 12/02/2013 4:28:54 PM PST by abclily
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To: King_Corey

I so endorse your post.


19 posted on 12/02/2013 4:30:20 PM PST by DManA (rs Jus)
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To: mandaladon

Why not just privatize the commissaries and outsource it to one of the retail chains? Not only could they do a better job for less money, it’d probably provide an income for the DOD.


20 posted on 12/02/2013 4:32:49 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Mouton

I can think of at least 100 other things to cut first, but stateside commissaries are an unnecessary military benefit and government expense. Why should there be a parallel system of government grocery stores? The profit motive is absent, so the savings to the military are a subsidy.
However, I am not going to apply the same reasoning to military health care. Veterans and active duty should not have to be inconvenienced the same way civilians are or will be in the future.


21 posted on 12/02/2013 4:33:39 PM PST by Sicvee (Sicvee)
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To: Sicvee

Couldn’t they simply charge a bit more to cover the costs?

wouldn’t that make more sense?


22 posted on 12/02/2013 4:34:12 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: mandaladon
The commissaries are grocery stores that offer food and other necessities at a discount to members of the military, their families and veterans.

Where to start?

Commissaries exist to ensure military families have access to food and necessities under all conditions. That means not relying on the vagaries of local markets. This is vital to the functioning of our Armed Forces.

Regarding the so-called "discount", that is a little misleading. Commissary merchandise is sold at cost plus a percentage surcharge and without sales tax. Part of the surcharge compensates for stock "shrinkage" with the bulk of it used for facilities improvement. Manufacturers coupons are accepted just as at any other supermarket.

Commissaries constantly strive to stock the national brands and items you expect to find in chain supermarkets. What you won't see in commissaries are store brand labels. And the reality of base life is that the commissary is usually the only grocery shopping resource available.

This means commissary shoppers get reliably good deals on national brand prices but do not have access to the availability and value of quality store brand goods. So they, like all other thrifty shoppers, must choose wisely. But unlike all other thrifty shoppers, base families tend to be limited by circumstances to shopping at commissaries.

So commissaries are base supermarkets selling the necessary variety of national brand groceries & essentials at slightly above cost to our military families wherever they are stationed in order to keep our Armed Forces strong.

They are necessary wherever we have bases, in-country or overseas.

For Congress to even consider closing U.S. commissaries is appalling! It will not save money. But it will massively damage our Armed Forces.

Then again, that's probably the purpose of this nonsense.

23 posted on 12/02/2013 4:34:40 PM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: EEGator
True. I can do without the commisary, but close the class VI, and it's game over.

/johnny

24 posted on 12/02/2013 4:35:37 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: abclily

Democrats who do this are dirty, rotten, treacherous, evil sloths!


They are all that already...

There has to be a lower level for this kind of stupid idea.


25 posted on 12/02/2013 4:36:08 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: DoodleDawg

The commissaries are not supposed to compete in the market. The point of the commissaries is to give the enlisted families some compensation for the low wages they earn as compared to their civilian counterparts. It is supposed to be a perk, in the good sense, in that its a reward for service to country while sacrificing pay and lifestyle. That goes for both the service person and their spouse.


26 posted on 12/02/2013 4:38:51 PM PST by Magnum44 (I have had just about enough)
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To: mandaladon

Nothing’s too good for the `Brothers’ at Guantanomo—600 count thread sheets, halal food, exercise equipment, and on and on,
but we’ve got to save money by taking food out of the mouths of troopers’ families while their fathers, husbands and wives, try to stay alive dealing with 0’s BS RsOE ....
“We’re not at war with the Taliban”; “I’ll stand with Islam,” etc. etc. FUBAR


27 posted on 12/02/2013 4:40:09 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: mandaladon
Why don't we simply just cut $1.4 billion from the EBT/SNAP programs and keep the commissaries open?

With the hundreds of billion going down the rat hole in those programs, the Gibsmedats will hardly notice the difference.

28 posted on 12/02/2013 4:52:21 PM PST by Gritty (You can't fix crazy any more than you can fix stupid. Obamacare was never going to work.-Steve Deace)
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To: Darth Reardon

Obama, Shinseki and Dempsey: Sure taking care of VETERANS like they promised!

“Taking cure of” as in “abandoning them” like the BENGHAZI FOUR!!!


29 posted on 12/02/2013 4:52:31 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: mandaladon

Cut off mooch’s taxpayer funded, USAF- Air Force 1 and 2 semiannual $6 mil vacays.


30 posted on 12/02/2013 5:17:07 PM PST by stanne
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To: mandaladon

0-10 and lower...enjoy your WIC cards..


31 posted on 12/02/2013 5:19:11 PM PST by sternup
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To: mandaladon

Let’s close the Senate dining room instead, fire the chefs at the White Hut,and make the Bastard-in-Chief carry a sack lunch to work—which by my estimation isn’t very often (Thank God).


32 posted on 12/02/2013 5:23:53 PM PST by patriotsblood
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To: EEGator

Don’t worry Class VI stores have already become a ghost waiting to die. Thanks to removing it from the club system they were successful in destroying the club system. Few go to O or NCO clubs and leaders say, “Why don’t our personnel ever socialize together and bond?”


33 posted on 12/02/2013 5:32:11 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: mandaladon

1000 cuts to the military.

Zero to the welfare parasites.


34 posted on 12/02/2013 5:46:38 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mandaladon

Give the system to Walmart and ask them to run it. You’ll get the same discounted products at a fraction of the overhead. Defense Commissary Agency (DeCA) is located at Ft Lee near our home and the folks there are very well paid.


35 posted on 12/02/2013 5:52:20 PM PST by Portcall24
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To: DoodleDawg

“Why not just privatize the commissaries and outsource it to one of the retail chains? “


Uh,uh. Then sales tax would apply. I love to see MA cheated.

.


36 posted on 12/02/2013 6:00:18 PM PST by Mears
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To: King_Corey

No one is willing to lead by example and have their piece of the pie cut.

Your list is exactly why (I agree with your list of things that should be cut btw) the government will go broke, in as much as everybody has a list that protects their intrests.

It doesn’t mater if it is the PX or NPR, all spending has it’s supporters.


37 posted on 12/02/2013 6:45:52 PM PST by Mark was here (If I had a Rodeo Clown he would look like Barak Obama.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Commissaries are important to retirees too. One thing I really like about them is not having to contend with brats out of control like in civilian stores. Military kids tend to be a lot better mannered. Not having to pay sales tax is a real bonus in state’s where food is not exempt.


38 posted on 12/02/2013 6:51:25 PM PST by Himyar
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To: mandaladon

save..!?!?

you mean redirected gender reassignment surgery, gun control groups and irs healthcare nazis. also so tsa can start harassing you at your local mall.


39 posted on 12/02/2013 6:51:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mandaladon

This should be lied squarely at the feet of Obama and the democraps. They dont give a damn about the military.


40 posted on 12/02/2013 6:52:18 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: tbpiper

keep faggots and dykes oit of the military. huge cost-saver there.


41 posted on 12/02/2013 6:52:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mandaladon

Someone made the contrast of the money saved by closing commissaries to how much we give in aid to a**hat Afghans each year...among other wastes of our money.


42 posted on 12/02/2013 7:01:24 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Portcall24

winnah winnah chicken dinnah!

The 5% saving at ther commissary are not woerth it when 33% of the fruits and veggies spoil the day after you bring them home. Outsource both the PX and the commissary to wally world and give them the same tax exempt staus.


43 posted on 12/02/2013 7:16:35 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: mandaladon
close all U.S.-based commissaries in 2015 as part of a massive cost-saving effort after more than a decade of war.

BS. The commissaries were around decades before any recent "decade of war". This is just one more example of how this regime will cut anything from the contributors, but have they announced any cuts to the trillion in annual welfare programs?

44 posted on 12/02/2013 7:40:33 PM PST by Will88
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To: mandaladon
I actually agree with this decision, and for 20 years have argued that the DOD commissary and exchange systems are outdated and should be closed. They have clearly outlived their purpose.

Years ago, commissaries and exchanges provided the only low cost shopping options that were available to military families stationed in isolated locations. Today almost every military base has a Walmart Supercenter and several other grocery stores right outside its gates -- all crowded with military shoppers. Those stores have found their way to military markets for two reasons:
1. Almost all military members now have their own cars to reach them; and
2. Military families have the money to buy from them.

On any large base today you'll find McDonald's, Burger King, Subway and Pizza Hut franchises; similarly, the need no longer exists to justify parallel supermarkets operated and staffed by highly-paid government employees. On-base shopping can be outsourced to any number of regional supermarket chains -- or in total to Walmart, whose nationwide logistical system would require only minor tweaking to meet the demand.

Subsidized military commissaries and exchanges needlessly and inefficiently duplicate what the private sector now already provides. They are no longer needed and no longer contribute to national defense, and therefore should be closed.

45 posted on 12/02/2013 8:02:35 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: mandaladon

We need the $1.4 billion spent on commissaries to pay for the $2.3 billion spent on Obamaphones.


46 posted on 12/02/2013 9:07:21 PM PST by oldbill
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To: Mears
Uh,uh. Then sales tax would apply. I love to see MA cheated.

Why? As part of the deal you could still waive taxes.

47 posted on 12/03/2013 3:33:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Jonty30

It’s being done because AliBama HATES the US military and wants to inflict as much pain as he can. Not stopping the endless wars, closing foreign bases, and bringing troops home, just closing commissaries. The 1.4 billion that would be “saved” is pocket change. It would mean nothing. Just a slap in the face for those that are serving so that chicksh*t candy ass can live like a king.


48 posted on 12/03/2013 4:22:08 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: GeronL

Basically the only savings at the Commissary are taxes. Of course there is no mention of closing AAFES and the Naval Exchanges, which charge more than any retail store in the local area. Who’s making a profit off those inflated prices? What politician is is getting rich off active duty and retirees? I use to pay $5 for a loaf of stale bread in the Navy Exchange in Iceland and a quarter Stars and Stripes cost 50 cents. The only savings you could find on a base was the Class C store and now that’s a thing of the past. And what’s this BS of a carton of smokes costing almost as much as off base. It was only a few years ago that a carton of Class A cigs cost $25. Now they are three times that much. Generics are $50 a carton. Who’s getting the kickback?


49 posted on 12/03/2013 4:35:40 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

bump


50 posted on 12/03/2013 4:44:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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