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What if Jameis Winston were a white lacrosse player?
World Net Daily ^ | December 2, 2013 | John Rocker

Posted on 12/03/2013 4:23:08 AM PST by abb

Exclusive: John Rocker compares media coverage of accused QB vs. Duke athletes

With each passing year, we regrettably get more stories of college athletes acting up and getting in trouble with the law. From armed robbery to rape, there appears to be no crime that college athletes aren’t capable of committing.

Dominating the sports world right now is the story of a likely nominee for the Heisman Trophy standing accused of sexual assault. Jameis Winston is the star quarterback for the Florida State Seminoles, who are currently undefeated and ranked No. 1 out of all college teams in the country. In other words, we could potentially have an alleged rapist win both the Heisman and the National Championship.

It’s no wonder this has become a national news story and has risen far above other reports of bad behavior on the part of college athletes. The only story I can remember having this much traction is the Duke lacrosse rape hoax from a few years back. But both cases have major differences and the media are giving this story a much fairer shake than what they gave the poor guys who were accused of rape in the Duke lacrosse case.

For one, the races are switched in the two cases. Jameis Winston is black, while the lacrosse players were white. The police and district attorney’s office responses to both cases have been completely different as well. The allegation against Winston was first docked in December of 2012, and the police have been dragging their heels in handing the case to the district attorney ever since then. The D.A. received the case just last month, and he still hasn’t pressed charges as he “carefully considers” the allegations against Winston.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dukelax; durham; nifong; winston
Spot on.
1 posted on 12/03/2013 4:23:08 AM PST by abb
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2 posted on 12/03/2013 4:24:39 AM PST by abb
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To: abb

If the accusation had been made against white members of the Duke basketball team or football team then I think you would have seen as much foot-dragging. Morale of the story is if you’re going to be accused of a crime then it pays to play a sport people have heard about and which has a strong alumni backing.


3 posted on 12/03/2013 4:30:53 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: abb
The D.A. received the case just last month, and he still hasn’t pressed charges as he “carefully considers” the allegations against Winston.

The season isn't over yet. Duh. Football jocks of all colors are coddled while the season is on. Duke players got nailed because nobody cares about Lacrosse, but they bet on Football so criminality gets a pass.

4 posted on 12/03/2013 4:33:45 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: DoodleDawg

Yep.


5 posted on 12/03/2013 4:34:47 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: DoodleDawg

Lacrosse is something of a lightning rod because it is white dominated, like ice hockey. Lacrosse is not a sport kids play in the sandlot, like hockey it requires expensive equipment and specialized playing sites, so lower income people are generally frozen out, resulting in resentment.


6 posted on 12/03/2013 4:36:53 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: abb
What if Jameis Winston were a white lacrosse player?

First off, he'd change his first name.

7 posted on 12/03/2013 4:38:19 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Lacrosse is something of a lightning rod because it is white dominated, like ice hockey. Lacrosse is not a sport kids play in the sandlot, like hockey it requires expensive equipment and specialized playing sites, so lower income people are generally frozen out, resulting in resentment.

Yeah I'm sure the inner cities are filled with black kids who are fuming that they'd be playing lacrosse if only 'the man' wasn't keeping them down.

8 posted on 12/03/2013 4:39:55 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Your statement is certainly acccurate.

A few exceptions to the rule: Maryland has some high quality inner-city lacrosse programs, and Jim Brown was a GREAT lacrosse player.


9 posted on 12/03/2013 4:43:14 AM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Specialized playing sites? Not really, just a soccer type field and a triangular net. The only equipment needed is a stick; pads and helmets are comparable to football gear.


10 posted on 12/03/2013 4:46:57 AM PST by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: abb

If white people complain we are racist.

I have no idea if this man is guilty, it is up to the courts to decide that, but it is up to the police and the District Attorney to present their case in a timely manner.

Holding up the case because of a football schedule or the race of the man being charged is BS.

White people have no Al Sharpton’s or Jesse Jacksons. Why do we not have them? Because the minute a white man complains about treatment of whites he is labeled a Klansman. There are 43 members of the Black Klan in our Congress. 43 Members of the Black Congressional Caucus, a Caucus of members whose only requirement is that the members be African-American. Not American??? African-American.


11 posted on 12/03/2013 4:51:37 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: abb
Why you ask? Simple - FOLLOW THE MONEY
12 posted on 12/03/2013 5:08:23 AM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: abb

“The D.A. received the case just last month, and he still hasn’t pressed charges as he “carefully considers” the allegations against Winston.”

You need to read up on the Travis Johnson sexual assault case if you think the State’s Attorney’s Office in Tallahassee has any concern at all for athletes. Dude passed three polygraph tests and had two statements from doctors that due to surgery he couldn’t have done what he was accused of. The State’s Attorney went to trial with zero evidence beyond the word of the accuser and an all female jury freed Johnson in less than 30 minutes. Just a total sham case that nearly ruined the kid’s life.

Meggs (State’s Attorney) has been quoted as saying he holds college athletes to higher standards than regular citizens, and the way he goes after athletes confirms this. If there were any way he could charge Winston he would.


13 posted on 12/03/2013 5:09:12 AM PST by Stevenc131
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To: abb

14 posted on 12/03/2013 5:12:22 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Duke players got charged because the “victim” was black and the State’s Attorney in Durham wanted the black vote for his upcoming election. In the case of Winston, the alleged victim is white and very attractive, and the State’s Attorney, Willie Meggs, who has never held back for the football program, is not facing another election, so I don’t think politics is at play here. I truly think he just wants to do the right thing. There is so much info out there (most rumor, but consistent rumors) that the accuser was drunk (she claimed she was not), that she identified the attacker as 5’9” to 5’11” (Winston is 6’4”) and that there were two eyewitnesses who have given sworn statements that support Winston’s version of events (the accuser’s attorney released a statement saying that one of them supported her). There’s other info regarding her possible motive for a false accusation - I’m not saying she is making a false accusation, just that there is enough out there to cause Meggs to make sure he’s following up on all of it to try to get the truth.


15 posted on 12/03/2013 5:13:32 AM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: abb
Good piece. Thanks for posting. I just realized that the author is THE John Rocker, who was forced by MLB to do a public mea culpa and undergo sensitivity training. He writes well.

One question. Has the race of Rocker's complainant leaked yet?

16 posted on 12/03/2013 5:16:50 AM PST by ken5050 (Benghazi investigation update: "The plot thickens, like Hillary Clinton's ankles.." (longfellow")
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I’m using the GA ping list just because of the byline on the article. Yes, it is THAT John Rocker.


17 posted on 12/03/2013 5:27:04 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

ROCKER! I remember him. His comments that ran him out of the league were FUNNY. I learned that you took the #7 from Times Square. That’s what I got out of it + some truths. Glad to see he’s doin ok.


18 posted on 12/03/2013 5:31:54 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: abb

Johnny Manziel got more flack from the press when he sat courtside at a basketball game!


19 posted on 12/03/2013 5:51:27 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: FreedomPoster
Rocker's been making appearances at sporting goods stores around Atlanta. I think he's written a book or been in some documentary that he's advertising. He even did a live on line chat which quickly devolved into a childish bombfest as one would expect.

As for the article he oversimplifies things. Maybe kids were less likely to do bad things in college 40 years ago. But they were certainly much more likely to have those things covered up than they are now. Camera phones and Gloria Steinem have made this a much more dangerous world for the high profile athlete.

20 posted on 12/03/2013 6:04:34 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Pan_Yan

If you go to the WND source article, there’s a link there about the book.


21 posted on 12/03/2013 6:20:54 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

“With each passing year, we regrettably get more stories of college athletes acting up and getting in trouble with the law. From armed robbery to rape, there appears to be no crime that college athletes aren’t capable of committing.”.

Unfortunately, this is NOTHING NEW. These so called “athletes” have been pampered and made to believe that they are “special” and can/are allowed do ANYTHING they want since early in their young lives. They begin to believe they are indeed special and carry that attitude into their future and later lives as well. We hear about that all the time from the professional sports world. IMO, they are NOT special unless they commit those crimes and only THEN become special. Yes, there are the good athletes but we don’t hear about them and you don’t have to ask yourelf, “why not?”


22 posted on 12/03/2013 6:56:34 AM PST by Progov
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To: abb

But . . . but that’s different.


23 posted on 12/03/2013 9:15:24 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: secret garden

I can guarantee that if someone erects those little triangular nets in the wrong neighborhood, they will be torn down by vandals within a week.


24 posted on 12/03/2013 9:37:28 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Yeah I'm sure the inner cities are filled with black kids who are fuming that they'd be playing lacrosse if only 'the man' wasn't keeping them down.

No, but they will fume when they get an affirmative action admittance to an elite university and find out that there is sport dominated by whites. Blacks do grouse about the popularity of ice hockey, perceiving it as a way for whites to enjoy a sport without having to cheer for black players.

25 posted on 12/03/2013 9:40:40 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Reversal of fortune as now it’s a rich white girl accusing a poor black boy of a heinous crime. Not to mention State Attorney, Willie Meggs, has FSU undergrad and law degrees.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/flash/1106323/


26 posted on 12/05/2013 6:24:50 AM PST by safetysign
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To: safetysign
I hope she goes after him in civil court, since the police decided not to really investigate and handed their half assed case in just three weeks ago...way to go, brotherhood....

Sue....

and I hope FSU gets their butts kicked...

27 posted on 12/05/2013 5:57:21 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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