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1 posted on 12/03/2013 9:09:57 AM PST by Hojczyk
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If memory serves, this is similar to the Statin Island Ferry crash when the motorman was ‘dozing’. From alcohol I think.

Good they did the blood test just to be sure...


2 posted on 12/03/2013 9:11:40 AM PST by Paulie
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I read that the Metro-North trains are supposedly equipped with Automatic Train Control.

Maybe the line's maintenance isn't so good?

3 posted on 12/03/2013 9:13:06 AM PST by Paladin2
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The problem with trains is you don’t have to steer.
Steering helps keep you awake in a road vehicle.
This is not a new problem.

I will say it was enjoyable watching yesterday’s presser that as soon as Shuck Chumer grabbed the mike, Fox went back to studio.


4 posted on 12/03/2013 9:13:12 AM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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The lawyers who will be filing the wrongful death lawsuits just love to hear stuff like this.


5 posted on 12/03/2013 9:13:36 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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Waiting for the union to claim over worked / under paid engineers as the cause in 5...4...3...2...


7 posted on 12/03/2013 9:16:51 AM PST by llevrok (Obama 2008 : "If you vote for me, aaaaaa, you can keep your country")
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I read he was doing 82 mph going into a 30 mph turn.

“Ridin’ that train, high on cocaine,
Casey Jones, you’d better watch your speed!”


8 posted on 12/03/2013 9:17:39 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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In the 2003 Staten Island Ferry crash (that killed 11 and injured 71), the ferry pilot had been taking a painkiller that made him drowsy:

Mayor Michael Bloomberg promptly announced that the crash was an accident, allaying fears of a public still stunned by the 9/11 terrorist attacks, which killed a large number of Staten Island residents.

A co-worker claimed to have seen the pilot asleep on duty, slumped over the controls. Two witnesses said the boat seemed to speed up just before the crash. The ferry's pilot, Richard Smith, attempted suicide by slitting his left wrist while still on the boat. He then slipped away so suddenly that he left his house keys. He was found shortly afterwards at home, having apparently broken in. Smith had again tried to kill himself, this time by shooting himself twice in the chest with a pellet gun, but survived this second suicide attempt.

It was later determined that Smith had lost consciousness while at the ship's controls. He had taken the painkillers tramadol and Tylenol PM, both of which can cause drowsiness as a side effect. The city rules required two pilots to be present during docking, but this rule had not been enforced by the management of the ferry service, and Smith had been alone in the pilot house. On August 4, 2004, Smith pleaded guilty to manslaughter. He was sentenced to 18 months in prison on January 10, 2006. New York's former city ferry director, Patrick Ryan, who had also pleaded guilty to manslaughter, was sentenced to a year and a day on similar charges.

The accident resulted in scores of lawsuits against the city. As of September 2008, the city had paid $54.3 million to the victims and their families, with other lawsuits pending.


15 posted on 12/03/2013 9:29:18 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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“Dozing” hung over?
“Dozing” high?
Help me out here.


25 posted on 12/03/2013 9:55:11 AM PST by servo1969
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The Washington Metro trains are run by computer with human operators essentially as backup. A good idea, considering the quality of the human train operators.


26 posted on 12/03/2013 9:57:55 AM PST by jumpingcholla34
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For what other reason than the fact that the train operator is a union member and democrat voter do we even have human operators on trains anymore?


28 posted on 12/03/2013 10:37:30 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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Four people were killed, three of whom were thrown out of the cars...

Ya’ll are missing the point, they should have been wearing
seatbelts, the train should not have started until everyone
was buckled up.

See, it’s easy to think like a liberal, but it
hurts my brain.


31 posted on 12/03/2013 10:47:46 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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How is it they don’t have some version of a deadman-switch on there? I can’t see the families of those who died, or were injured, being relieved with this excuse, particularly when he survived it.


33 posted on 12/03/2013 1:27:49 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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"a Metro-North spokeswoman said ATC wasn't set up to provide alerts at the derailment site."

Well, that's a real problem now.

34 posted on 12/03/2013 3:09:01 PM PST by Paladin2
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