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Bad News for U.S. Warplane Pilots: Russiaís New Dogfighting Missile Canít Miss
War is Boring ^ | 12/04/2013 | David Axe

Posted on 12/04/2013 10:10:07 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Moscow’s new active-array missile could be the most accurate ever

By combining two existing technologies, Russian engineers have devised what could be the world’s deadliest air-to-air missile. And the U.S. military doesn’t have anything like it … or adequate defenses.

Designers at the Detal bureau, part of the state-owned Tactical Missile Munitions Corporation, added an active electronically-scanned array radar—a so-called “AESA”—to the nose of a long-range R-77 missile to produce the K-77M model. Thanks to its new guidance sensors, the K-77M is way more accurate than other missiles.

How accurate? Flying 40 miles or more, the K-77M should be able “to maintain lock on even the most agile maneuvering target,” according to one scientist and defense specialist in the Pacific region whose country’s laws prohibit him from speaking on the record about weaponry. In light of the scientist’s expertise, War is Boring agreed not to publish his name.

With enough funding, the K-77M could enter service as early as 2015, in time to be fitted to the first combat-ready versions of Russia’s new stealth fighter, the powerful T-50. The combination of T-50 and K-77M could match or even best America’s own F-22 stealth fighter, which is fast and hard to detect but lacks an advanced air-to-air missile.

And the T-50 with its new munition is sure to vastly outclass the U.S. F-35, a smaller, less capable stealth fighter meant to comprise the bulk of the American warplane fleet in coming decades.

Smarter missile Traditional air-to-air missiles include a small mechanical radar antenna in the nose. These mechanical radar missiles have a major weakness that occurs in the final seconds before the munition reaches its target.

“The angular motion—and specifically the angle rate of antenna movement as the missile closes on the target—can be so high that the seeker cannot keep up and the target slips out of the antenna beam, causing missile lock to be broken,” the scientist explains.

In other words, if a pilot turns quickly in any direction right before a missile hits his plane, he stands a good chance of slipping outside the field of view of the missile’s radar, causing it to fly harmlessly away. The inability of most munitions to cope with violent maneuvers helps explain why radar-guided air-to-air missiles typically have very low hit rates.

But the K-77M could change all that. Gone is the mechanical array. In its place, Detal’s engineers have added what Russia Today describes as “a large number”—possibly hundreds—of individual digital arrays, each pointing its own radar beam essentially at the speed of light.

“Each cell receives only a part of the signal,” RT reports, “but once digitally processed, the information from all cells is summarized into a ‘full picture,’ enabling the K-77M missile to immediately respond to sharp turns of the target, making interception practically inevitable.”

That’s not hyperbole, according to the scientist. “Because an AESA or phased array is steered electronically, the antenna beam can be adjusted in direction several thousand times per second and is not limited in angle rate, thus allowing an AESA-equipped missile to maintain lock.”

Considering the huge advantage an active-array missile has over older munitions, it’s perhaps surprising that Russia is the only country developing one. Amid budget reductions, the U.S. and Europe have essentially stopped investing in new seekers for air-to-air missiles. Almost all of America’s aerospace capital is being poured into fixing problems with the F-35 as well as developing a new stealth bomber.

But Russia typically exports its missile technology to China—and the K-77M should be no exception. “We should not be surprised to see the AESA seeker sold to China for use in Chinese-built PL-12 [missile] in 2015 or 2016,” the scientist warns.

To survive a dogfight with a foe armed with K-77Ms, an American plane needs to be stealthier or employ better radar jamming, the scientist advises. Considering the F-35's many design compromises, U.S. stealth technology probably reached its pinnacle with the F-22, which ended its production run two years ago.

And as for jamming … the Pentagon for years has struggled to develop new electronic countermeasures, with the Air Force in particular having all but abandoned electronic warfare in favor of spending more money on stealth.


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An older-model R-77 missile being launched. Via Air Power Australia

1 posted on 12/04/2013 10:10:08 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How objective is the article?


2 posted on 12/04/2013 10:16:42 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ping


3 posted on 12/04/2013 10:17:37 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The RMS Titanic can’t sink. If you like your plan you can keep it, PERIOD! If man were meant to fly he’d have wings. Of course I’ll call you. Have I ever lied to you? Your kitchen’ll be done in less than a month.


4 posted on 12/04/2013 10:18:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Putin is ready to play in the big leagues.


5 posted on 12/04/2013 10:21:04 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: sukhoi-30mki

You spend your money on welfare and buying votes, or you spend your money on defense and creating jobs.


6 posted on 12/04/2013 10:23:13 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: sukhoi-30mki

oh we don’t need the F22

it will be 20 years before anyone can touch it


7 posted on 12/04/2013 10:25:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Just throw a couple of these out the window- That`ll throw `em off your tail.

9 posted on 12/04/2013 10:32:59 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So what if their pilots can shoot down anything now. Out pilots are now free to suck each other’s *****. Can Russia’s pilots do that? Didn’t think so. Oh, we can spy on our citizens way better than Russia can too so there.


10 posted on 12/04/2013 10:37:53 PM PST by RC one
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Better, but not a giant killer.
Hyping the wrong thing about an AESA in the missile.
Doesn’t understand the real issues in the missile end-game.
At the big boy level, stealth is tactical and no longer a get out of death free card.


11 posted on 12/04/2013 10:53:55 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Revolutionary

I’s also slowly moving towards lasers and away from physical missiles.


12 posted on 12/04/2013 10:57:24 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Big deal. The Russians develop a missile that our F-35’s and F-22’s can’t out-manuever. At least we have women pilots....< /sarc >


13 posted on 12/04/2013 10:57:54 PM PST by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This will be useful for China in the East Asian seas.


14 posted on 12/04/2013 11:01:31 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: freebilly
At least we have women pilots

And transgendered.

15 posted on 12/04/2013 11:07:16 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: RC one

NONE of that....NONE...will matter when the air raid sirens go off..and not because of weather...

But then....it will be WAAYYY too late to do anything....but surrender....or die.


16 posted on 12/04/2013 11:10:13 PM PST by Rca2000
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To: Jeff Chandler

Gay ones, too. And not the Enola kind....


17 posted on 12/04/2013 11:10:58 PM PST by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
They don;t NEED missles.
They've got OBAMA.




Read an article from Tom Fife and a comment from thefife:Here's Tom Fife's article.
Let us remember ...
There's NO "ENIGMA" ... to Barack Hussein Obama II.

The DemocratsNational Socialists, and FASCIST Obama are DOING IT ON PURPOSE!!!!

We were warned.


Obama tells Russian PM "After Election I Have More Flexibilty"




18 posted on 12/04/2013 11:11:00 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Can an AESA radar track an F22? I don’t think so. It does not matter if they got a nice “new” air missile if the MIG is shot down first by a true 5th generation fighter like the Raptor that has “first look and shoot” capability. It can’t shoot down what the platform and missile can’t see until it is too late. This article is the usual Russian hype that I’ve know all my life.


19 posted on 12/04/2013 11:13:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Plus, it’s not like we never heard of a phased array, you know?


20 posted on 12/04/2013 11:28:10 PM PST by dr_lew
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