Skip to comments.The Fix Is In
Posted on 12/05/2013 12:24:00 PM PST by IbJensen
In case you missed it, John Boehner has hired Rebecca Tallent. Tallent worked for the left-of-center Bipartisan Policy Center, and is a serious amnesty advocate. She helped John McCain and Ted Kennedy during the Bush era on that disastrous plan.
Heres what is going to happen.
Boehner will wait until 2014, after qualifying for all the serious challenges to incumbents is over. Then hell get all these Republicans talking out of both sides of their mouths and the Democrats together for a bipartisan immigration reform push. The threat of primary challenges well passed, theyll get their amnesty deal done.
The only way conservatives can stop this from happening now is to line up primary challenges early. In Texas, the period to challenge ends very shortly. Same goes for other states. If conservatives do not find credible, quality challengers ASAP, well see amnesty steam roll through once the threat of the primaries is passed.
The Republicans are so convinced you will turn out and vote for them in 2014 to spite Obama, they are perfectly happy to screw you over in this fight knowing how cheap a date the conservative movement has become.
The president is only pushing for this because he wants people to stop focusing on Obamacare, it benefits the Democrats more to keep the issue alive to use against us than to actually get a solution. The fix was in Nov 5 2012, everything that has happened that has lead to this has been at the behest of our party leadership.
The GOPe was in line to win big in 2014 and will do this and scuttle their own chances.
Correction: the Republicans don’t really care if you vote for them. They are more than happy as minority party. If voted out they take their seats on corporate boards and foundations. They appear to have been promised special box seats on the NWO train for themselves and their families.
If they are going to do a series of smaller bills then that might be better. I want to see Democrats voting against border control or employer verification. Each thing we want can be paired with something they want.
knowing how cheap a date the conservative movement has become.
***Well put. Even here on FR, JimRob endorsed a candidate whom he said he’d never endorse, having called him a gun-grabbing, babykilling statist.
Sure looks like the Democrats RINO, John Boehner, has already made his personal side deal with the Obamacrats.
Yup: RINOs ram through a disastrous, VERY Anti-American, Amnesty Bill for Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico, and the Democrats promise absolutely nothing in return, as usual.
WHY DO OUR SORRY MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES KEEP THIS POS PSEUDO DEMOCRAT BOEHNER AS THEIR SPEAKER ?
Because the majority of Republicans in the House agree with this stuff?
Do I care what the Whigs are up to?
There wasn’t much of a viable choice now, was there? he also explained his position. it is impolite to be rude to the host, btw.
You are spot on!
And if memory serves, the House had a chance to vote him out but, one by one, decided it was more politically expedient to vote ‘yea’. Even Michelle Bachmann ended up giveing Boehner the nod.
I agree. Let them be clean bills allowing people to see exactly what is being voted on.
I think they have the upper hand this time; Obama is desperate to do a deal so may agree to the piecemeal approach.
We have to get politics back on a local level, call, email, tweet to your reps and senators to stop.
You are more right than you know.
The GOP Ruling Class and party have made an agreement to act as Judenrats for the MarxoFascists and assist in the purge and extermination of the Conservative movement.
Then, once that is achieved, they will exterminate Conservatives themselves.
So says history if anyone is willing to look and realize that we forgot the lessons.
Dear Grae’, Boehner is now an imposter, plain ans simple. His incompetence is by intentional design, and the alternative to this increased hostage taking of rank and file conservative voters is going to do nothing but swell the ranks of the Libertarian Party, warts and all, because people are over the top FED UP.
The Repubs can’t seem to win without us, so far, but they see that we never win either, without them.
We need to surprise them and get off the wheel. The circular firing squad is not working, and I don’t want to be in their fox hole any longer.
I expect an amnesty bill will be similiar to Obamacare: Long and convoluted, no one will have really read it (except the unions and US Chamber of Commerce, who wrote it) there will be wild promises and assurances that will be forgotten and then once it’s passed the critters will ‘fine-tune’ it, amending parts that might have stymied passage.
The Democrats will respond to expressions of outrage with “It’s the law of the land!”
And the ‘loyal opposition’ will prove itself to be more loyal than oppositional on this issue.
They just care about holding on to their lands and slaves!
There wasn’t any choice, dude.
Now, seeing as how things can’t get much worse than they already are, I will happily choose nothing next time unless I can choose Ted Cruz.
They don’t want to be in the majority
They are not representing the American eople. Not any more than BO is
WHY DO OUR SORRY MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES KEEP THIS POS PSEUDO DEMOCRAT BOEHNER AS THEIR SPEAKER ?
cause he is a drunk and pays for their booze bills
I agree. Harlem Globetrotters vs the Washington Generals. The Generals lose every game, as a show team. Their security is guaranteed by the continued attraction of the Globetrotters. 2 - 1 = 1. As long as the country is going to go flaming Democrat forever, the Republicans can easily achieve their loser status in perpetuity by sabotaging themselves.
Republicans AGAIN find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Yep, they'll support immigration "reform" alright ..... stupid bastards.
There wasnt any choice, dude.
***There sure as hell was.
To: Jim Robinson
So how do you get the deed for conservatism back from the GOP-E? They know you will endorse whomever they put in front of us.
I was beginning to feel like the Lone Ranger here.
***Nothing wrong with being the Lone Ranger of conservatism. That is valuable territory to stake out. Instead, you handed over your deed to the GOP-E.
1,552 posted on Wed 07 Nov 2012 02:13:16 AM PST by Kevmo (”A person’s a person, no matter how small” ~Horton Hears a Who)
I wonder if you really know how close to the truth that statement is.
Case in point: In 1993 I attended several Campaign Finance and Opposition Research classes funded by various Republican affiliated groups in Washington DC. Jack Kemp's "Empower America" was one of those groups.
Anyway, one day after a very long class that started at 7:30am and ran through to 6pm, the class (about 23 of us, along with our "sponsors" (read that: political candidates) and others went out to a rather famous watering hole in downtown D.C.
I don't remember exactly what time it was, but somewhere after midnight the bar was closing and several wanted to keep on drinking. The bar tender suggested we go to another semi-famous (at the time) watering hole and to give the bartender a specific code so our drinks would be put on Teddy Kennedy's tab.
Yes, I went and had a few more on Teddy Kennedy's tab. I figured why the hell not.
That’s considered rude? If you’re about to make a huge mistake AND throw out your principles at the same time, isn’t it a kindness for someone to try to talk you out of it? Even in your own living room?
I’m sure my rep (who the zombies chose) will listen to me.
Leave it to the GOP to throw victory into the jaws of defeat.
It is almost as if the GOP was a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party
I think they are, now.
Choice was Obama or Romney.
It seems like a no brainer, but it probably wasn’t.
Whatever the case, Cruz or bust.
I did not vote for Romney here in Tenn.
Say what you will. Romney is the SAME animal as Obama, except he has an R by his name. I have come to the point of realizing the GOPe is just as determined as the libs to tear down this country.
Only choice or not, I’ll NOT vote for a socialist even if he carries the R banner.
I can’t argue with what you’ve said, and I’ll not be voting that way ever again.
You know better than to mention a Freeper by name without pinging them to your post.
I don’t regret trying to keep Obama from getting reelected. My only regret is we couldn’t convince enough people during the primaries that Romney was the loser we all knew he was.
Whatever your feeling about Romney, HE WAS NOT A MARXIST,!!!
The Republicrats have made a nicel little ‘tenured’ career out of believe that their core will vote their corrupt assess back into office.
No matter how stateman like they feel they ‘appear’ they know full well that the good ole boys believe they need that contingent of the GOP to fight for the nation and its’ people.
Why, hell, this gaggle is nothing but a bunch of poll watchers who have been happy in the knowledge of regardless of what they so and don’t do they’ll get reelected.
With little Bobby Bonehead at the helm one couldn’t help but amaze at how much he resembes Bob Michel,
Buck up and act light right-wing Conservatives you bunch of Democrat accommodators your time as well as that of the nation you pretend to love is running out!
It’s hard to believe that you just either sit or shove your hands in your pockets and watch while Barry does his magic nation disappearing act.
Perhaps not, but had he been elected, Romney would have matched Obama's agenda pound for pound, and the Republican Congress would have rubber stamped every bit of it.
He just would have done it with a smile, and very gentlemanly manners - all the while assuring us of how "severely conservative" he really and truly is.
Romney was the only Republican candidate who couldn’t campaign against Obamacare if he wanted to....he wrote it for MA. That tells me that the RINOs never wanted to stop Obamacare, and they still don’t.
Then let’s motivate FReepers to overhaul the primary process.
From my home page...
Heres how I think primaries should be organized:
My suggestion is basically to hold the first primary in the state that has the highest percentage of GOP votes in the last election, the 2nd primary in the 2nd highest, and so on. 2 primaries a week for 25 weeks, with the last primaries being the suckup-to-the-democrats. And the democrats could easily have their primary schedule the same way, if they wanted.
This way, if a state is 60% republican, there is still incentive for them to get out the vote for 61% republican so they can bump up their state in the primary schedule.
Also: Rotate all the states (even the big ones) through an early schedule so that everyone gets access at some point to the front line.
Let each state bid when they want their primary to take place. The earlier the primary, the fewer the delegates they control according to some logarithmic or steep curve formula.
18 posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:55:08 AM by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962610/posts?page=18#18
Second thing is the order of the primaries should be determined by the percentage of republicans in the last vote. The higher the %pubbie, the sooner the state appears on the primary schedule, with a mix of big & little states and our staunchest republican states get to go FIRST. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=862#862
24 posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 8:52:29 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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