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Undocumented immigrants start testing for Illinois driver's licenses
reuters.com ^ | Dec 3, 2013 | MARY WISNIEWSKI

Posted on 12/05/2013 8:06:50 PM PST by moonshinner_09

(Reuters) - Undocumented immigrants in Illinois began taking road tests on Tuesday to qualify for driver's licenses, starting a process expected to be closely watched by other U.S. states that are preparing to implement similar laws.

Illinois is the largest U.S. state to implement legislation allowing undocumented immigrants to get licenses - following in the steps of New Mexico and Washington.

Ten states in 2013 including Illinois enacted laws allowing unauthorized immigrants to receive driver's licenses or permits, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Implementation dates vary - California, the largest state by population, won't begin issuing licenses until 2015.

"They represent a growing trend toward inclusive state policies that recognize that immigrants are part of our community," said Melissa Keaney, an attorney with the National Immigration Law Center. "If someone's going to drive, we want them to be sure they know the rules off the road."

Keaney said "all eyes will be on Illinois" to see how their program works. About 25 states considered the issue in their 2013 legislative sessions, the NCSL said.

Supporters of the Illinois law said some 250,000 undocumented immigrants are already driving in the state, the fifth most populous. The new law requires them to take driver's tests and have liability insurance, thus making the roads safer, the supporters said.

Illinois started taking appointments for testing November 12, and has scheduled 5,500, according to Dave Druker, a spokesman for the Illinois Secretary of State.

Undocumented immigrants seeking a license in Illinois must show proof of insurance and, like other residents, must take a road test, a written test and a vision test. They also need to show they have lived in Illinois for a year by providing a rental agreement or other documents.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aliens; driverslicenses; ill; immigration
Misleading article..Undocumented immigrants... They also need to show they have lived in Illinois for a year by providing a rental agreement or other documents...Hand out licenses to anyone with little oversight.Docmunents mills will be working over time to produce needed fraudulent documents..Fraudulent insurance cards...The Illinois Association of Chiefs of Police opposed the law because it did not require fingerprinting, which would identify whether someone applying for a license has committed any crimes, ..More special privileges for illegals.Might as well open a branch in Mexico.
1 posted on 12/05/2013 8:06:50 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Hmmmmm....MOTOR VOTERS?

Does the license have a WETBACK sticker on it?


2 posted on 12/05/2013 8:08:41 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Will they be required to drive at 3 times the legal limit?


3 posted on 12/05/2013 8:08:59 PM PST by whitedog57 ( Cy)
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To: moonshinner_09

What can the people do when the Statehouse is the headquarters of treason?


4 posted on 12/05/2013 8:10:23 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: moonshinner_09

ILLEGAL ALIENS should not be allowed to drive in this country!


5 posted on 12/05/2013 8:10:25 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: moonshinner_09

I didn’t have any reasons for wanting to visit Illinois before, now I have even less, but I have to drive through it to get where I want to go.
Just dayum.


6 posted on 12/05/2013 8:13:29 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Star Traveler
"ILLEGAL ALIENS should not be allowed to drive BE in this country!"

Fixed it.

7 posted on 12/05/2013 8:15:06 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: moonshinner_09

Immigrants are foreigners who follow our immigration laws.

Foreigners who do not follow our immigration laws but are here legally are legal aliens.

Foreigners who do not follow our immigration laws but are here illegally are illegal aliens.


8 posted on 12/05/2013 8:15:46 PM PST by Ray76
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Impy

Which IL governor candidate is the best one on this issue? Brady and Dillard voted for that law. I hope that, if Rutherford wins, he’ll propose a bill that would repeal that law.


9 posted on 12/05/2013 8:18:32 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

Once a candidate has gone and pandered to criminal invaders, they are forever disqualified from office as far as I’m concerned.


10 posted on 12/05/2013 8:25:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: moonshinner_09

Documenting the Undocumented , now they know who and where you are ,LOL


11 posted on 12/05/2013 8:35:40 PM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: moonshinner_09
Beautiful start. Get all their information: personal history, illegally-used SSN numbers, employers who illegally hired them, landlords who illegally rented to them, businesses that knowingly catered to them, personal info and fingerprints from relatives that vouched with personal knowledge that they are who they say they are, and then THEIR fingerprints-facial-shots-and-profiles and possibly retinal scans!

THEN raid their homes and employers places of business, incarcerate them and fine them all including their aiders and abetters, let the poor honest citizen whose SSN's were being illegally used know about it, and fine all the financial institutions that provided the means for them to live illegally where other common criminals would have been simply arrested and sent straight to The Pen / Greybar Hotel.

Give it a bit of time to allow lots of information to be documented, then go after and penalize each and every one. When people pay lots of money for harboring fugitives, and I do mean LOTS of money, the lack of ready money will stop the rest from also flaunting our laws.

"Undocumented" apparently is no such thing, since without some accepted documents they would not be acquiring funds. The last several years I applied for a job I had to provide pounds of paperwork before they would hire. Follow the money -then make them all PAY!

Unable to track and deport Illegals me arse!

12 posted on 12/05/2013 8:41:52 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: moonshinner_09

After dealing with the SecState DL office, going back home might look pretty good


13 posted on 12/05/2013 9:13:22 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: moonshinner_09

Texas has a couple million illegal drivers we will be glad to send to IL. They not only drive, but drink and drive, and have killed thousands of innocent people over the years.


14 posted on 12/05/2013 9:35:35 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: PhilCollins; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

The issue of illegal immigration in general? Well it’s not that ***ker Rauner I can guarantee you that.

This crap bill (that should have been named in favor of George Ryan or maybe some of the people that George Ryan got killed) passed the Senate 41-14 (with one brave PRESENT vote from downstate rat Gary Forby and a handful of no shows) so I wouldn’t get bent of shape in terms of permanently hating on every Republican that voted for it.

http://ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/97/senate/09700SB0957_12042012_008000T.pdf

Rutherford may well have voted for it too if he had still been a Senator. Has he said anything about it? If he’s against it he should say so, it would win him support in the primary. If he says nothing that doesn’t instill me with any confidence that he’d do anything about it. I think this battle is over and lost, illegals will legally menace our roads.

Dillard is scum and needs to be excoriated every time his filthy name is mentioned, he’s not the best Republican on any issue and neither is that bag of pus Rauner, no freepers should even consider voting for either of those combiner pigs.

Brady and Rutherford are the only choices as far as I’m concerned.

I think Brady was also voted for the dream act which also passed overwhelmingly, am I correct? What about Rutherford? Was that after he was elected Treasurer?

As an aside it’s way past time for that prick Forby to lose, District 59 down in the tip of state.


15 posted on 12/05/2013 9:50:04 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The headlines are misleading as they should read “Undocumented Democrats”


16 posted on 12/05/2013 9:52:12 PM PST by saintgermaine
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To: whitedog57

And will they be *exempt* from having to have car insurance? Or, will we just *subsidize* them?


17 posted on 12/05/2013 9:54:53 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: moonshinner_09

A license in one state is a license in all states.


18 posted on 12/05/2013 10:25:01 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Star Traveler
"ILLEGAL ALIENS should not be allowed to drive in this country!"

There.. that's better.
19 posted on 12/05/2013 10:51:13 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Jane Long

we already do..

Why do I pay for “uninsured motorist” coverage when everyone is suppose to have insurance???

If they can not even enforce having car insurance, how in Gods great earth are they gonna run our health care?


20 posted on 12/05/2013 10:55:44 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: moonshinner_09

It would be nice if it were a sting operation.


21 posted on 12/06/2013 12:27:41 AM PST by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: Impy

PhilCollins has been trying to figure out Rutherford’s stance on the bill (he was already Treasurer when it came out for a vote). Rutherford’s remained silent on the issue so I doubt he’d be any better than the other four on the issue. As to who’s the “most conservative” on immigration over all, its hard to say. Brady is probably the most conservative on overall issues, but he was always wobbly on the issue, even in 2006, and lately he’s been really bad. Dillard claims to be conservative on immigration, his voting record says otherwise. Rutherford hasn’t talked about the issue much. I don’t know what Rauner says and it doesn’t matter since I don’t trust a single thing he says anyway.

Interesting enough, I think my RAT State Senator at the time (Maloney) was the LONE RAT in the Illinois Senate to vote “NO”. He was always a “centrist” RAT with a decent record on some issues like abortion and illegal aliens, though he’d voted the way Madigan wanted if he was needed. Unfortunately, he’s now retired and faux “pro-life Catholic” Democrat Cunningham is my newly elected RAT State Senator. Based on his record as state rep., I’ll be shocked if Cunningham EVER votes against the RAT party policy on ANY issue, whether his vote is needed or not.


22 posted on 12/06/2013 12:58:36 AM PST by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: BillyBoy
PhilCollins has been trying to figure out Rutherford’s stance on the bill

Because it's no fun being an Illegal Alien.

23 posted on 12/06/2013 1:11:35 AM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy

The state senate passed the dream act in May 2011, when Rutherford was the treasurer. Brady and Dillard voted yes.

Last Aug., I checked Rutherford’s campaign site, to see whether he said his opinion about the law that will give driver’s licenses to illegal aliens. I didn’t find that subject, so I emailed him. One of his aides called me and said, “That is a law, and we can’t do anything about it.” I said, “Does he agree with it or disagree with it?” He said, “He’ll be writing detailed position papers in about a month. That will be one of the issues, and it will be included on the campaign website.” About a month later, I checked the site, and I didn’t see that subject. I emailed Rutherford and that aide, and I asked the same question. I haven’t received a response. About a month ago, when John Kass & Lauren Cohn interviewed Rutherford, I tweeted John, and I said, “Please ask Treasurer Rutherford whether, if he’s governor, he’ll propose a bill to repeal the law that will allow illegal aliens to get driver’s licnses.” John asked the question, and Rutherford said, “I don’t think our legislature will repeal that law.”


24 posted on 12/06/2013 5:04:12 AM PST by PhilCollins
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