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3 things you didn't know about Nelson Mandela
The BackBencher ^ | 6/27/2103 | Lee Jenkins

Posted on 12/05/2013 8:29:24 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles

The hero of the anti-apartheid struggle was not the saint we want him to be.

The image of Nelson Mandela as a selfless, humble, freedom fighter turned cheerful, kindly old man, is well established in the West. If there is any international leader on whom we can universally heap praise it is surely he. But get past the halo we’ve placed on him without his permission, and Nelson Mandela had more than a few flaws which deserve attention.

He signed off on the deaths of innocent people, lots of them

Nelson Mandela was the head of UmKhonto we Sizwe, (MK), the terrorist wing of the ANC and South African Communist Party. At his trial, he had pleaded guilty to 156 acts of public violence including mobilising terrorist bombing campaigns, which planted bombs in public places, including the Johannesburg railway station. Many innocent people, including women and children, were killed by Nelson Mandela’s MK terrorists


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1 posted on 12/05/2013 8:29:24 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

(But were too afraid to ask)


2 posted on 12/05/2013 8:30:13 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Ah, no wonder the progressive left idolized him.


3 posted on 12/05/2013 8:31:48 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Slyfox

They love their blood-lusting commies.


4 posted on 12/05/2013 8:39:47 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

and you’ll not hear a word about this in the lamestream media.

this takes attention away from bammycare for a moment....


5 posted on 12/05/2013 8:40:06 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

They never pulled the wool over my eyes on this guy.

He was a fraud from the word go.


6 posted on 12/05/2013 8:40:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: Slyfox

sometimes the story is better than the reality, and sometimes it can accomplish the same things, so I’ll give Mandela a pass...just like we give MLK a pass and Kennedy a pass because they overall did good....


7 posted on 12/05/2013 8:41:50 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

The end always justifies the means with these people.


8 posted on 12/05/2013 8:44:35 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

4th thing:

Didn’t know he was still alive.

Scratch that...


9 posted on 12/05/2013 8:47:32 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: cherry
sometimes the story is better than the reality, and sometimes it can accomplish the same things

Perhaps, but in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.

10 posted on 12/05/2013 8:49:42 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

The article does not mention necklacing. Was that Nelson or Winnie who necklaced many people?


11 posted on 12/05/2013 8:50:39 PM PST by DBrow
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I guess I knew about this side of him and could not understand all the laurels that the press is pressituting.


12 posted on 12/05/2013 8:52:43 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DBrow

Winnie was famously written up about it but make no mistake she and nelson were very much the terrorist couple.


13 posted on 12/05/2013 8:56:16 PM PST by 1riot1ranger (OMG!!! ObamaMustGo!)
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To: DBrow

Winnie


14 posted on 12/05/2013 8:56:30 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

“The apartheid regime was a crime against humanity; as illogical as it was cruel.”

And if you accept that unquestioningly, you’re no better than those who assume Mandela was a saint.


15 posted on 12/05/2013 8:56:56 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: DBrow
winnie gets the credit...but Im thinking the Family That Necklaces Together Stays Together

distant relative to barack hussein?


16 posted on 12/05/2013 8:57:15 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

He was a terrorist without a valid cause.


17 posted on 12/05/2013 9:02:43 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: MeshugeMikey

“Family That Necklaces Together Stays Together “

Oooh cruel. lol Yes, Mandela’s enemies became tired.


18 posted on 12/05/2013 9:04:40 PM PST by DBrow
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To: ealgeone

Not only that. I heard Lars Larson sort of praising him today and then later Andy Dean. WTH? Do these “conservative” radio hosts do any research? Normally I like to listen to both these guys but had to turn them off today. Never heard Levin’s or Limbaugh’s take on this “historic” event. Maybe tomorrow. Goodyear necklace anyone?


19 posted on 12/05/2013 9:08:56 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: DBrow
Oooh cruel. lol Yes, Mandela’s enemies became tired.

If I were you, I'd tread lightly on this thread.

20 posted on 12/05/2013 9:08:57 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: DBrow
Mandela was a much the tyrant as this puke but I never heard obama say a word about Uncle Nikita?

Must be a RACIAL thing


21 posted on 12/05/2013 9:14:58 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Slyfox

There seem to be some conservatives who view him in a light much better than he was.


22 posted on 12/05/2013 9:17:08 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Slyfox

There seem to be some conservatives who view him in a light much better than he was.


23 posted on 12/05/2013 9:17:58 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: dfwgator; DBrow

Yes, please ply your bias more quietly lest some be offended.


24 posted on 12/05/2013 9:24:20 PM PST by Bob
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To: freekitty

“There seem to be some conservatives who view him in a light much better than he was.”

Exactly, back around ten years ago we were on a cruse and met a family that was then living in the US, but were from South Africa. They told us all kinds of stories about how much better there life was before Mandela became president and how their voice in the Mandela democracy was all but silenced.

Now, South Africa is a much worse place than it was then and people are having to leave the country of their birth as they have no more power at the ballot box.


25 posted on 12/05/2013 9:27:01 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Mandela was no Mugabe, but when I saw Ø eulogizing him all I could think was “one terrorist praising another.”


26 posted on 12/05/2013 9:29:02 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Also there was the bombing of a pub he was involved in that killed 23 men and women. He said in effect that civilians were legitimate targets in this war.


27 posted on 12/05/2013 9:33:50 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
Mandela gone...good riddance.
28 posted on 12/05/2013 9:47:32 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (A pox on the House of Apple and the ios7 horse they rode in on.)
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To: rktman

Well Hannity and Levin both had good things to say about him.

No mention of necklacing.


29 posted on 12/05/2013 9:49:42 PM PST by Guardian Sebastian (Mother of God, pray for us and our country.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

He was sainted for blowing up government buildings; the same thing for which Timothy McVeigh was executed.

Mandela killed innocents. McVeigh Killed innocents. Neither one deserves sainthood in my book.


30 posted on 12/05/2013 10:00:19 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: KC_Lion

1. Communist.
2. Communist.
3. Communist.


31 posted on 12/05/2013 10:03:39 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.

He knows.


32 posted on 12/05/2013 10:05:05 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: rktman

I hear ya. The local & state GOP are all over Facebook heaping praise on this ambient temperature commie.


33 posted on 12/05/2013 10:05:45 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob

“In the modern age, Nelson Mandela will be remembered as an unsurpassed healer of human hearts. By dint of his character, sacrifice, vision and abounding love, he won a revolution without shedding blood, founded a peaceful nation in a land of turmoil, and personified principle in a world searching for integrity.” - Mitt Romney

*PUKE*


34 posted on 12/05/2013 10:06:38 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp. Go Michigan State!)
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To: dfwgator

I saw that too. Beyond comprehension.


35 posted on 12/05/2013 10:10:32 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Sure seems to be a lot of confliction about this guy. To me, the greatest people are the unsung ones who are never mentioned in the press, but love their neighbors, serve quietly, fear God, and await the resurrection of the dead in Christ Jesus. They are all over the place.


36 posted on 12/05/2013 10:14:39 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Beowulf9
Yup.

If he repented and threw himself down at the mercy of The Lord - then well. If not, 'Vengeance is mine saith The Lord'.

37 posted on 12/05/2013 10:18:06 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

Yes. That is one thing about the Lord, he gives us that chance to make good. If we really repent.

Hope this guy did.


38 posted on 12/05/2013 10:21:42 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: bigfootbob

Speaking of which (commies), I got an email newsletter from vision-strike-wear(a business that sells military wear with you rank/unit/branch on them. Nice stuff) this morning with a little notation of upcoming dates and events. The last item was Dec. 26-—kwanzaa. I sent them a note asking them to look in to the background of ron karenga and the “invention” of the bogus holiday. Around 9 a.m. I got a call from them and they said they were removing the reference to the “celebration”. I didn’t mean to try to tell them what to do but they said they would rather keep my business than lose it even though it isn’t much business. I presupposed that they would know about the marxist/commie/socialist pos that started it all. They were unaware but maybe, just maybe, they’ll do some looking in to things than just accepting the PC thing to do. We’ll wait and see if they take it off. If so, I’m gonna order some more shirts from them. If any other vets out there are interested in special shirts for themselves, here’s the link:

http://www.vision-strike-wear.com/


39 posted on 12/05/2013 10:27:32 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Bob

Bias? I know for a fact it is the truth. I heard it on the radial.


40 posted on 12/05/2013 10:30:01 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Nik Naym

“I heard it on the radial.”

Nelson Mandela was a man for all seasons.


41 posted on 12/05/2013 10:34:17 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: rktman

Cool. I never get replies where they act like they give a shit.


42 posted on 12/05/2013 10:40:51 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: 21twelve

And a lot of people had set a bead on him.


43 posted on 12/05/2013 11:10:15 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: cherry

sometimes the story is better than the reality, and sometimes it can accomplish the same things, so I’ll give Mandela a pass...just like we give MLK a pass and Kennedy a pass because they overall did good....

You mean the destruction of civilized South Africa?


44 posted on 12/05/2013 11:19:58 PM PST by wita
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

“It’s a tragedy what is happening, what Bush is doing. All Bush wants is Iraqi oil. There is no doubt that the U.S. is behaving badly. Why are they not seeking to confiscate weapons of mass destruction from their ally Israel? This is just an excuse to get Iraq’s oil. . . .
“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America.”
– Nelson Mandela, Jan. 30, 2003


45 posted on 12/06/2013 12:26:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

46 posted on 12/06/2013 12:27:35 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: DBrow

I expect Mandela to receive his reward in the after life: A hot necklace.


47 posted on 12/06/2013 1:20:28 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Guardian Sebastian
Well Hannity and Levin both had good things to say about him.

I listened to Levin for about 2 minutes with nothing bad to say about Mandela. I turned it off. Maybe he vilified him later. I don't listen to Sean (me, me, me) Hannity.

48 posted on 12/06/2013 4:15:02 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: Slyfox

They also suck up to the evil Gerry Adams.


49 posted on 12/06/2013 4:34:43 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: bigfootbob

Small company run by younger folks. At least that’s what I’m thinkin’ based on the conversation with the young man that called me. Basically boils down to, they felt they were doing something good based on their time in the public indoctrination centers as sprouts and being told things that “ain’t necessarily true” for too long.


50 posted on 12/06/2013 6:36:37 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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