Skip to comments.Shades of Vietnam: Spike in U.S. troop deaths tied to stricter rules of engagement
Posted on 12/06/2013 8:01:56 AM PST by huldah1776
The number of U.S. battlefield fatalities exceeded the rate at which troop strength surged in 2009 and 2010, prompting national security analysts to assert that coinciding stricter rules of engagement led to more deaths.
A connection between the sharp increase in American deaths and restrictive rules of engagement is difficult to confirm. More deaths surely stemmed from ramped-up counterterrorism raids and the Talibans response with more homemade bombs, the No. 1 killer of NATO forces in Afghanistan.
But it is clear that the rules of engagement, which restrain troops from firing in order to spare civilian casualties, cut back on airstrikes and artillery strikes the types of support that protect troops during raids and ambushes.
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Fight to win or get out. Fight to win, or else it’s just endless cruelty. And I mean cruelty to our Soldiers and their families.
Believe it or not, the latest addition to rules of engagement in Afghanistan is that our guys cannot shoot at ANYONE inside a building.
The only exception is serious, absolutely imminent death.
And this is not true if you can walk away and avoid the situation.
My rules of engagement would be:
If you even think you detect the enemy shoot them.
If they move or twitch after being shot, then shoot them again.
If it turns out that they were civilian, then call them an enemy sympathizer.
Obamaganda must have some of LBJ’s dna in his gene pool.
LBJ loved to created deadly ROE’s for those who served under him.
My ROE is:
1. Kill the enemy.
2. Break their things.
The reason for keeping our troops in Afghanistan is to bleed the American military.
King Barry’s ROE are in place for the purpose of ridding America of its true patriots. I think about the nearly 20 SEALs aboard that one Chinook helicopter (on 08/06/11) almost every day.
Troop death increases are also because the enemy feels emboldened and empowered knowing America’s president shares their goals.
Don’t shoot until you have been shot. Why do you think we hand out that body armor soldier?
Our ROEs in Nam were no way near as ridiculous as those in Afghanistan. Additionally, we were not subjected to the scrutiny now endured by our troops on the ground. We spent weeks at a time without REMFs around and we definitely did not have an attorney for every rifleman as they appear do have now. We see them, we shoot them and blow up their tunnels and gear. They shoot at us from the bushes, we blow up the bushes. They ambush us, we ambush them. If there were no civilians or water buffaloes in the fields as we traveled on the roadways, it was safeties “off”.
Body armor is actually a trade-off between protection and mobility. Sometimes moving faster is more important. In any case, you can’t completely cover yourself with ceramic plates. The biggest problem is the current anti-military administration that are practically tying their hands as target practice for the nice moose limbs.
the Islamic enemy.
What a blessing!
Hello in Aghanistan! If you find a lighter with the USMC logo on it, let me know. My son lost his in Hell-on-man province. :)
I heard about the new restrictions that Karzai wanted and is still not agreeing to. I think of it as Beirut II.
helmet cams are absurd.
Imagine that .. REMFs and gutless political pussies got guys killed/maimed !
Afghanistan was Vietnam and Korea from the beginning under W Bush and got worse with Obama with limits on what our forces could do to interdict the Taliban supply line from Pakistan.
The Pakistani government intelligence agency created the Taliban that took over Afghanistan and gave Bin Laden his base of operations.
This is an absurd international police action with American forces under the ISAF umbrella. The supply lines for both sides run through the same country-Pakistan.
I would pull out or do what it takes to win.
Pakistan has nukes so neither Republicans or Democrats would fight an all out war to defeat the Taliban just like fear of Soviet nukes drove the Vietnam “war effort” involving no victory.
This has been another international police action-limited war in the Korea-Vietnam tradition from the beginning.
Since WWII America does not fight wars to win anymore.....