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Is the Sun Rising in the East?
Townhall.com ^ | December 6, 2013 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 12/06/2013 10:31:03 AM PST by Kaslin

The scores are in from the 2012 Program for International Student Assessment, which, every three years, tests 15-year-olds from the world's most advanced countries.

For the United States, the report card is dismal. The U.S. ranking has fallen to 17th in reading, 21st in science, and 26th in math.

Florida, one of America's diverse mega-states, competed separately in the PISA exam, and scored below the U.S. average.

In the academic Olympics, the American superpower is a mediocrity.

Ranked one through seven in test scores in reading, science and math were Shanghai-China, Singapore, Hong Kong-China, Taiwan, South Korea, Macau-China, Japan. Also well ahead of the United States is Vietnam.

By and large, Western Europe has moved out in front of us and our close competitors are the Slovak Republic and Russian Federation.

Fifteen-year-olds in two ex-Soviet republics, Estonia and Latvia, also posted grades in math and science superior to those of America's young.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan calls the PISA test scores a "brutal truth" that "must serve as a wake-up call" for the country.

Excuse me, but how many wake-up calls do we need?

In October 1957, we got our first when the brutalitarian and backward superpower built by Josef Stalin beat America into space.

Two months later, our answer to Sputnik, a three-pound satellite, was to be launched by a Vanguard rocket from Cape Canaveral, to get us back in the race. It got four feet off the ground, when the rocket exploded.

Egg all over our face, we were rescued from national humiliation by the Redstone Arsenal rocket crew of Wernher von Braun who built the V-2s that had rained down on London. Von Braun put an 80-pound Explorer into orbit, and we were back in the game.

While the first manned space flight was made by Russian cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, America, under Presidents Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon, took command and put an American on the moon in July 1969.

Meanwhile, the country was on fire over the issue of education.

In LBJ's Great Society legislation in 1965 came the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, which poured enormous amounts into our pubic schools.

In 1983, came "A Nation at Risk: The Imperative For Educational Reform," the report of President Ronald Reagan's National Commission on Excellence in Education. Conclusion: America's schools, even then, thirty years ago, were failing the nation.

Under George W. Bush and Barack Obama, we got another surge in spending with No Child Left Behind and Race to the Top.

How can a lack of money explain our declining test scores when America continues to spend more per capita on education than almost any other country? Yet, the more we spend, the lower the test scores we get back in global competition?

Some insist the persistence of poverty in an affluent America is the cause of these declining test scores.

Yet, have we not fought a 50-year war on poverty since LBJ's Great Society? And not only have countless trillions of dollars been spent, the poor in America receive benefits of which the world's poor could only dream.

America's poor receive free food, free health care and free education for their children from Head Start to K-12. The poor get subsidized housing and subsidized incomes. They are exempt from federal income taxes. State programs and private charities pick up where the feds leave off.

Yet, if poverty explains the dismal performance of America's students, why are they being lapped by Vietnamese 15-year-olds?

Do the Vietnamese have a higher per capita income than we?

Is there less poverty and more emphasis on education in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City than New York City and Washington, D.C.?

Is home environment behind the disparity in test scores?

Forty percent of American children are born out of wedlock, but for Hispanics it is 53 percent and for African-Americans 73 percent.

Looking again at those PISA test scores, other than East Asia -- China, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam -- hardly any other nation of Southeast or South Asia, the Arab or Muslim world, Africa or Latin America, is in the top forty in academic performance.

And, in these test scores from a diverse world, we can see mirrored the academic performance within our own diverse nation.

Just as East Asians and Europeans excel in the PISA tests, so, too, do Americans of East Asian and European descent dominate test scores and excel in educational achievement, while our Hispanic and African-American students trail.

At top universities like Berkeley, Stanford and in the Ivy League, too, Asian and white Americans are overrepresented in the student bodies.

Yet, Hispanic and African-Americans are more than 30 percent of the U.S. population and 35 percent of those in our public schools.

Increasingly, these minorities will represent the nation in international academic competitions.

Where, then, are the grounds for optimism that we can turn this around?

And if we cannot, ought we not accept the inevitable?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: patbuchanan; publicschools; schools; students; unions

1 posted on 12/06/2013 10:31:04 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Hey but they know all the words to the latest rap garbage \n’ stuff. The NEA - an abysmal failure.
2 posted on 12/06/2013 10:36:05 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Kaslin

No child left behind..., in the race to the bottom.


3 posted on 12/06/2013 10:37:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: Kaslin

Anybody have some stats on where Union Teachers send their kids to school? If they’re sending them to their public schools, it’s them basically selling out their own children, for their own financial and political gain.

What a commentary on these diseased addled fools.


4 posted on 12/06/2013 10:40:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: Kaslin

We used to be the melting pot where people from all over the world came to melt-in and become Americans. Now, we’re the centrifuge. We keep spinning faster and faster to separate everyone.


5 posted on 12/06/2013 10:42:24 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin

So, social hand-wringing and writing checks on thin air isn’t the solution? In fact, it’s getting worse? What a surprise!


6 posted on 12/06/2013 10:43:40 AM PST by februus
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To: DoughtyOne

You can bet they send them to private schools


7 posted on 12/06/2013 10:44:11 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Do these statistics lump home-schooled and public-schooled children together? I really think we ought to put the NEA product up to scrutiny against the balance of educational institutions; separate them out to better amplify their dedication to mediocrity and all things morally confused. They are doing more harm than good, ought to be identified as such, and subsequently disbanded.


8 posted on 12/06/2013 10:48:19 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Kaslin
government schools don't work because government/socialism doesn't work

how did in the freest country in history did government mandate our children have to go to a government school from 5-16 years of age? how did Americans allow government to build government buildings to brainwash our kids 8 hours day?

how can this be constitutional?

now the government schools show the hoax global warming as science, showing videos of polar bears floating on ice, algores movie etc

but they don't teach anything useful not even reading but instead that if you chew a poptart into a shape of “gun” then you will be in big trouble.

and the American sheep worship the government and gov schools. morons have rabidly attacked me verbally elsewhere and on this site when i have dared to criticize their government schools and government . where are you morons that attacked me here?

9 posted on 12/06/2013 10:48:42 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Kaslin
government schools don't work because government/socialism doesn't work

How did Americans allow government to build government buildings and mandate we send our kids to these gov buildings for 8 hours per day to be brainwashed with socialist propaganda? how can any American be ok with this idea?

this cannot be constitutional , for gov to mandate schooling and then to do gov schools. how did these cretins pass this?

10 posted on 12/06/2013 10:51:57 AM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Kaslin

These reports come out once in a while and look quite bleak.

I will say, young members of my family have attended public schools in our area, and seem to be rather well educated.

Of course I recognize weaknesses in our schools, but it seems some schools are dragging down the rest. If they were all that bad, it would seem parents would be rising in revolt.

Most folks think their own school is fairly decent. At least it seems that way.

What’s your take on it?


11 posted on 12/06/2013 10:52:04 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: Kaslin

Diversity is where nations go to die.


12 posted on 12/06/2013 10:53:20 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: DoughtyOne

The difference between us and the rest of the world... we trying to educate everyone, all the other high performing nations kick out the idiots.

purge all the idiots from our schools and we would be #1 again.


13 posted on 12/06/2013 10:54:46 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The commie Warren Court started that race to the bottom with Thurgood Marshall and his silly baby dolls charade.


14 posted on 12/06/2013 10:55:07 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Kaslin

Ethnically and culturally homogenous nations will always beat the US in test scores. Just a sad fact of life.


15 posted on 12/06/2013 11:09:04 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: steelhead_trout
Ethnically and culturally homogenous nations will always beat the US in test scores.

cant count muzzy countries in with the rest they make stupid people seem smart

16 posted on 12/06/2013 11:20:55 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: steelhead_trout
Ethnically and culturally homogenous nations will always beat the US in test scores. Just a sad fact of life.

There's nothing sad about reality. Diversity is perversity. Multiculturalism is a Satanic suicide pact.

17 posted on 12/06/2013 11:21:30 AM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Kaslin

But we’re winning the Knockout Game!!


18 posted on 12/06/2013 11:24:05 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
purge all the idiots from our schools and we would be #1 again.

which will be nice to think about while watching the riots.

19 posted on 12/06/2013 11:25:14 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m curious what the liberal reasoning is that a student in Vietnam does better than one in USA.


20 posted on 12/06/2013 11:26:37 AM PST by MNDude
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To: bigheadfred

“cant count muzzy countries in with the rest they make stupid people seem smart”


Alas, all too true. These are nations where they shoot schoolgirls who are trying to teach people to read.


21 posted on 12/06/2013 11:32:34 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: Kaslin

As long as Ebonics is a recognized speech pattern and considered acceptable English, we’re going nowhere as a nation very fast.


22 posted on 12/06/2013 11:52:33 AM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: F15Eagle

I’d like to see the scores related to $ spent per point.

We would rank dead last.

I’d bet a whole lot that there is very little evidence that spending more money equates to better scores.


23 posted on 12/06/2013 11:55:49 AM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: re_nortex

Thank you. I’ll come back to this later today. I appreciate the post.


24 posted on 12/06/2013 11:56:46 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Thank you. I’ll come back to this later today. I appreciate the post.

You're more than welcome. Sure Earl Warren had an 'R' next to his name and he may have even been a Conservative at one point in his life. By upon ascending to the Supreme Court, he slid so far to the left that the term "commie" is no exaggeration.

As for Brown, the correct outcome would have been to simply find race-based discrimination wrong, overturning Plessy, and leave it at that. The destruction of neighborhood schools and forced busing is the legacy of the Warren Court. The widespread knockout game and wilding can likewise be ultimately attributed to Warren and his men in black.

25 posted on 12/06/2013 12:05:51 PM PST by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: Kaslin

No, but Obama and his Marxist minions are certainly f*cking up the West; i.e., the United States.


26 posted on 12/06/2013 12:30:50 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Kaslin

Look on the bright side, our kids can put a condom on a cucumber with the best of them!


27 posted on 12/06/2013 12:47:51 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: februus

“In LBJ’s Great Society legislation in 1965 came the Elementary and Secondary Education Act, which poured enormous amounts into our pubic schools.”
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The sentence above, which I cut and pasted from the article, contains one of the most hilarious typos I have ever seen.


28 posted on 12/06/2013 1:10:13 PM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“I will say, young members of my family have attended public schools in our area, and seem to be rather well educated.”
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I certainly hope they are and wish you and yours well but I was an eighth grader in the public schools of South Carolina when Sputnik went up and supposedly woke us up to the horrid situation in the public schools. I can say from conversations I have had with young people who have recently graduated with a liberal arts degree from the university twelve miles from my home that NONE of the ones I have met could pass my public high school final circa 1962. I am not even in any doubt on this, they would all fail it. I estimate that the math test would be the only part they might NOT fail but they would probably need a calculator to pass that, most young people don’t seem to know how to work even simple arithmetic with paper and pencil now.

Of course those who study computer science or some other subjects learn things that did not exist in my youth but they too would flunk my high school final in English, History, Civics, Literature, possibly Biology as well. None of them seem to understand the use of pronouns, most are prone to use double negatives, it is astounding how often the meaning of their sentences is exactly opposite of what they intend to say, not one is capable of dealing with homophones. Asking them to differentiate between to, two and too is two times too much to ask. As far as their, there and they’re are concerned they’re convinced that their selection of one of these three words is neither here nor there. Don’t even talk about History or Civics, they are so abysmally ignorant (even the ones who majored in History) that they may as well have never heard of the subjects.


29 posted on 12/06/2013 1:36:15 PM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: RipSawyer

LOL!


30 posted on 12/06/2013 1:47:52 PM PST by februus
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To: TexasFreeper2009; DoughtyOne
all the other high performing nations kick out the idiots.


Can't speak for the other nations.. but that is true here in Japan. There is an entrance exam before they go to high school. If they fail, they are out. (I think they get 2 chances)
31 posted on 12/06/2013 1:49:26 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: TexasFreeper2009

That’s what my brother says. He’s a teacher.


32 posted on 12/06/2013 1:49:49 PM PST by goldi
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To: re_nortex

I agree with most of your post, and am not convinced you’re wrong on the Knockout Game at all. The courts have become activist. I’m not knowledgeable about Warren and the Warren Court, as previously stated.

It really is strange what effect being appointed to the court does to a person. All of a sudden you see things through a different filter.

Chief Justice Roberts has come up with some terrible decisions. I don’t think anyone saw those coming either.

Justices try to do their best, but the issues seem so weighty to them, that I think they get some sort of edifice complex at times and don’t settle down and see things simply and clearly.

Roberts was out of his freaken mind when he approved of Obamacare calling the fines a tax, when the Obama team themselves argued these were not taxes.

Roberts in effect ruled against the Obama team’s argument to give them the victory they wanted.

Say WHAT? Geez Louise...


33 posted on 12/06/2013 8:44:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: RipSawyer

I’m not sure I could have passed the tests you were required to. I was very restless in school from an early age on. I will say that when it came time for the SATs, I ranked in excess of the 70 percentile in most subjects, above 90 in a couple.

To be honest, what I learned was mostly by osmosis, so I was never quite sure if that testing was a sound confirmation of my smarts, or an overall damnation of the system or the rest of the students of the day.

There are times that I post when I’m tired and I use a form of “to” or “there” improperly. I come by later and wince.

My grammar can slip if I’m not careful. You’ll probably find some errors even in this post. My biggest failing is my spelling.

I’m not sure why, but I never was very good at spelling.

Take care.


34 posted on 12/06/2013 9:30:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: Bikkuri

Ouch!


35 posted on 12/06/2013 9:31:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: Kaslin

Discipline brings progress.

The new age has no discipline. It’s kinda obvious.


36 posted on 12/06/2013 9:42:46 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: DoughtyOne
Most folks think their own school is fairly decent.

We're #1!!!



(At least in sports...)

37 posted on 12/07/2013 3:50:02 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RipSawyer
The school I went to was so old fashioned, I had to learn about SEX all on my own!
38 posted on 12/07/2013 3:51:54 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RipSawyer
... not one is capable of dealing with homophones.

But I'll bet none of them are homophobes!

39 posted on 12/07/2013 3:53:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RipSawyer

And, it seems according to your last sentence, at lot of them post on FR!


40 posted on 12/07/2013 3:54:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bikkuri
If they fail, they are out.

THEN what?

41 posted on 12/07/2013 3:55:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Hardly anyone can detect my misspelled words when I am talking to them.


42 posted on 12/07/2013 3:56:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: eyedigress

Ca ching!

Pay the man Shirley!


43 posted on 12/07/2013 3:58:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

They either start working part time jobs, or stay with their parents forever :p

(Failed system, I don’t like it either)...

Even worse, before that test, there is only 1 other test before high school that actually counts. The is the Jr. high entrance exam... but that one only counts to which school they go to, as far as I can understand it.
There IS no PASS/FAIL otherwise.. they can even be absent from school for 95% of the school year, yet still come back and graduate their grade level with their class.

(THAT is screwed up :/)


44 posted on 12/07/2013 5:02:20 AM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Elsie

A lot of them call themselves journalists or bloggers like the one whose writings were posted on FR recently claiming to remember the impeachment of Richard Nixon, a historical event which never actually occurred because Richard Milhous Nixon, a man I do not praise, at least had the ability to feel shamed and so resigned before he could be impeached. Some of the same people claim that William Jefferson Clinton was not impeached even though he certainly was.

As some wise person once observed it is not the things you don’t know that make you stupid, (that is more properly called ignorance) it is all the things you know that are not so.


45 posted on 12/07/2013 8:32:14 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: RipSawyer
As some wise person once observed it is not the things you don’t know that make you stupid, (that is more properly called ignorance) it is all the things you know that are not so.

The hardest thing I find when teaching bible studies is getting people to UNLEARN the stuff they THINK is in the bible!

46 posted on 12/07/2013 8:42:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoughtyOne

We all make errors, I spend amazing amounts of time reading and rereading before I post a comment and often correct many errors I discover by proofreading my own writing. I don’t mean to sound critical of young people so much as I am disgusted with the failure of the current education system, I see it as having been taken over by enemies of this country with Bill Ayers a prime example of what I mean.

The dollar bill you have in your wallet is worth in reality maybe a nickel, probably less, in comparison to its worth in the year of my birth which was 1944, the official inflation adjustment figures are only fantasy. The university diploma of today seems to have been devalued in a similar manner. In those days a four year degree was a ticket to the executive suite, today it is a ticket to the kind of job that would have been done in those days by an eighth grade dropout. It has recently been reported that today’s degree is not even worth nearly as much as a high school diploma was worth in the job market in the mid sixties even. My high school teachers used to tell us that we would see a day when you would need a high school diploma to sweep the floor, apparently that day has arrived but not because so much education is needed compared to those days but rather because so LITTLE education is being offered in today’s schools.


47 posted on 12/07/2013 8:48:32 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Elsie

“The hardest thing I find when teaching bible studies is getting people to UNLEARN the stuff they THINK is in the bible!”
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Do you mean things like, “Hell hath no fury like unto a woman scorned”, “God helps those who help themselves”, etcetera?


48 posted on 12/07/2013 8:52:20 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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