Skip to comments.Matthews: South Africa’s White Apartheid Leaders Were More Patriotic Than GOP
Posted on 12/06/2013 2:08:23 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Fresh off his interview with President Barack Obama, MSNBC host Chris Matthews appeared on Now with Alex Wagner to review what the president said and to express his thoughts on the passing of former South African President Nelson Mandela. Matthews linked the GOP to South Africas white apartheid advocates and declared that those who facilitated the transition to Mandelas presidency were more patriotic and had greater regard for their country than the Republicans in Congress.
Matthews acknowledged a point that Rev. Al Sharpton had made earlier in this broadcast where he noted that the last apartheid president, F.W. de Klerk, recognized after Mandelas release from prison that he would be ascendant and brought him into his government to facilitate that transition.
I havent heard anything as smart as what I heard Reverend Sharpton say a moment go in five years, Matthews said. The difference between the way F.W. de Klerk handled the need for change and the election democratic election of Nelson Mandela legitimate election, he was never truly elected for him to recognize his role in history which was to be a patriot at that point is so different than the way [Senate Minority Leader] Mitch McConnell handled the election of Obama.
They were willing, the McConnell people onto the far right, were willing to destroy the country in order to destroy Obama, Matthews insisted. Whereas, to succeed in a country he loved, F.W. de Klerk was willing to see it transformed to black rule so it could be done successfully so he could have his country have a better future.
The loss of Mandela and what his history is about and the key statement of why this has been so poisonous the last five years, he concluded. We have real people in this country with real power and status who have used that status of power to hurt the country so they could hurt the president.
Thats the most damming assessment Ive heard and, I think, the truest, Matthews lamented.
Must’ve scored some good dope when Obama paid him a visit.
Must’ve scored some good dope when Obama paid him a visit.
Our little propheteering junior pastor, No , make that Profiteer Rev. Al.
He said something, he looks like he died a year ago. maybe it’s AIDS.. who knows?
His brain is already wasted away, his body appears to be following.
He still most likely was sporting a springer.
Can’t they do a 72 hour hold on this guy and give him a thorough mental hygiene exam? Doesn’t he have any family that cares about him?
why is this moronic guy allowed on TV?
video of a white woman being stoned and raped in South Africa by a crowd of blacks and with the consent of the South Africa government(mandelas creation):
mandela was a genocidal communist
they are committing genocide against white people in South Africa( stage 6 genocide) . google and check images also
the latest trend is rape , and disembowelment of white women in South Africa, with the Sanction of the black government(legacy of Mandela). google this if you think im lying
the U.S. news media celebrates this
they are raping then disemboweling (while alive) white women some as old as 80 and young little girls too
And then he says dumb stuff like this. I wonder why those days are gone, Chrissy? Surely you bear no responsibility for that...
Chris Matthews says the darndest things.
You know what I am wondering about since South Africa and immigration are at the forefront right now...character.
But Professor Mark Behr, of Rhodes College, in Memphis, Tennessee, and Dr Dennis Laumann, of the University of Memphis, have rejected requests that they help the family.
I am not interested in assisting (white)Afrikaners claiming discrimination in a non-racial, democratic, post-apartheid South Africa, wrote Laumann.
In my scholarly opinion, there is absolutely no basis for their allegation - whatever evidence they may present.
I'm wondering position Professor Behr and Dr. Laumann hold on immigration for illegals from south of the border.
Frankly this A hole takes up far too much of our time here. The guy is deranged.
Every time Mathews opens his mouth, he shows that there is nothing between the ears. What I want to know is when he is going to officially come out of the closet.
“Frankly this A hole takes up far too much of our time here. The guy is deranged.”
I agree. Matthews is a 50 IQ Nazi ape and shouldn’t be allowed on FR. We don’t allow Nazis here in FR, and Matthews is no different from the Nazi propagandist Julius Streicher. All this Nazi primate does is spout garbage. It’s time to ban this crap-throwing neanderthal.
Chrissy has an afterglow following his date night.
Matthews is one complete idiot from head to toes.
wooohoooo! Mark Levin is spanking Matthews.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
I wouldn’t spit on him if he was dying of thirst in the desert
—CHRIS MATTHEWS, on Obama’s 2010 State of the Union message
MANDELA THE MYTH
Sarah, the author of this factual article (written just before the 90th birthday party of this media celebrity), is an Englishwoman endowed with an incisive and razor-sharp understanding of South Africa s recent history as I do having lived there for 24 years. Unlike so many millions of brain-washed lemmings in the UK, she sees right through the media-contrived smoke & mirrors, lies and myths as propounded by the MSM. (Mass Media.) Thanks to Sarah for the OK to reproduce this here. It says it all.
It is often said that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, however, this usually means that the other man has been less than fastidious in his choice of hero, or that the freedom fighter in question was on the crowd pleasing side. On the 27th of June, 2008 Londons Hyde Park played host to a concert in honour of Nelson Mandelas 90th birthday and it received wall to wall coverage by a star struck and worshipping media, who will continue to laud Mandela as one of the greatest, or indeed the greatest, heroes of our time.
The beaming old man will appeared on stage in one of his trademark multi-coloured shirts and cheerily acknowledge the cheers of the adoring crowd, most of whom have been taught to believe in his sainthood since their first days in primary school, which, for many of them, will have occurred around the same time their hero walked free from Robben Island.
The unquestioning belief in Mandelas universally admired saintliness will again be displayed in the press and by the unending line of politicians and dignitaries who will queue up to genuflect before him and sing his praises. It is a brave politician or journalist who would dare to question the godliness of this legend and consummate showman, and hence no such questions will be raised, nor will his much vaunted achievements be subjected to any objective scrutiny.
No matter how many speeches are given or how many news articles are written, it is safe to bet that the full truth about Mandela will not be told except by those who know and care about history being recorded factually.
In fact the truth about Mandela is so hidden in mythology and misinformation that most know nothing about him prior to Robben island, and those who do tend to exercise a form of self censorship, designed to bolster the myth whilst consigning uncomfortable facts into the mists of history.
For most people all they know about Mandela, prior to his release in 1990, was that he had spent 27 years in prison and was considered by many on the left at the time (and almost everyone now) to be a political prisoner. However, Mandela was no Burmese Aung San Suu Kyi, he was not an innocent, democratically elected leader, imprisoned by an authoritarian government.
Mandela was the terrorist leader of a violent terrorist organisation, the ANC (African National Congress) which was responsible for many thousands of, mostly black, deaths. The ANCs blood spattered history is frequently ignored, but reminders occasionally pop up in the most embarrassing places, indeed as recently as this month the names of Nelson Mandela and most of the ANC remained on the US governments terrorist watch list along with al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and the Tamil Tigers. Of course the forces of political correctness are rushing to amend that embarrassing reminder from the past. However, Mandelas name was not on that list by mistake, he was there because of his MURDEROUS PAST.
Before I am accused of calumny, it should be noted that Mandela does not seek to hide his past, in his autobiography the long walk to Freedom he casually admits signing off the 1983 Church Street bombing carried out by the ANC and killing 19 innocent people whilst injuring another 200.
It is true that Mandela approved that massacre and other ANC killings from his prison cell, and there is no evidence that he personally killed anyone but the same could be said about Stalin or Hitler, and the violent history of the ANC, the organisation he led is not in question.
According to the Human Rights Commission it is estimated that during the Apartheid period some 21,000 people were killed, however both the UN Crimes against Humanity commission and South Africas own Truth and Reconciliation Commission are in agreement that in those 43 years the South African Security forces killed a total of 518 people.
The rest, (some 92%) were accounted for by Africans killing Africans, many by means of the notorious and gruesome practice of necklacing whereby a car tyre full of petrol is placed around a victims neck and set alight.
This particularly cruel form of execution was frequently carried out at the behest of the ANC with the enthusiastic support of Mandelas demonic wife Winnie.
The brutal reappearance of the deadly necklace in recent weeks is something I shall reluctantly focus upon later.
Given that so much blood was on the hands of his party, and, as such, the newly appointed government, some may conclude that those who praised Mandelas mercy and forgiveness, when the Truth and Reconciliation tribunal set up after he came to power, to look into the Apartheid years, did not include a provision for sanctions, were being deliberately naive.
Such naivety is not uncommon when it comes to the adoring reporting of Nelson Mandela, and neither is the great leader himself rarely shy of playing up his image of fatherly elder statesman and multi-purpose paragon.
However, in truth, the ANCs conscious decision to reject a policy of non-violence, such as that chosen by Gandhi, in their struggle against the white government, had left them, and by extension, their leader, with at least as much blood on their hands as their one time oppressors, and this fact alone prevented them from enacting the revenge which might otherwise have been the case.
As the first post Apartheid president of South Africa it would, be unfair if not ludicrous to judge Mandela entirely on the basis of events before he came to power, and in any event there is many a respected world leader or influential statesman with a blood stained past so in the next part I shall examine Nelson Mandelas achievements, and the events which have occurred in South Africa in the 14 short years since he took power in following the post Apartheid election in 1994.
MANDELA - THE LEGEND AND THE LEGACY PART 2, BY SARAH, MAID OF ALBION.
In the second of two articles examining the life of Nelson Mandela, in advance of Fridays concert in Hyde Park celebrating the living legends 90th birthday, I shall look at his legacy and the new South Africa which he created after coming to power on a surge of worldwide optimism and hope in 1994, when, following the end of Apartheid, he and his followers promised a new dawn for what became termed the Rainbow Nation.
Today South Africa has the reputation of being one of the most dangerous and crime ridden nations on Earth which is not actively at War. In 2001, only seven years after the end of Apartheid, whilst the city of Amsterdam in the Netherlands with 5,6 murders per 100,000 population was declared the murder capitol of Europe, Johannesburg, with 61.2 murders per 100,00 population and remains the worlds top murder city.
In South Africa as a whole, the murder rate is seven times that of America, in terms of rape the rate is ten times as high and includes the ugly phenomenon of child rape, one of the few activities in which South Africa is now a world leader. If you dont believe me, you can read what Oprah Winfrey has to say about it here.
All other forms of violent crime are out of control, and Johannesburg is among the top world cities for muggings and violent assault, a fact seldom mentioned in connection with the FIFA Soccer 2010 World Cup which is scheduled to be hosted in South Africa.
As always with black violence the primary victims are their fellow blacks, however, the rape, murder and violent assault of whites is a daily event, and there is more .....
As with the Rhodesian/Zimbabwean Matabeleland massacres, news of which the BBC, together with much of the world media suppressed for twenty years to protect their one time hero, Zimbabwes Robert Mugabe, another secret genocide is being ignored by the world media, the genocide of white Boer farmers, thousands of whom have been horribly tortured to death in their homes since the end of Apartheid. Anyone who clicks on this link should we warned that it includes some very gruesome images as the savagery of these attacks belie the authorities attempts to dismiss them as nothing more than a crime wave.
Given that it is now all but illegal in South Africa to report the race of either victim or the perpetrator of a crime (unless the perpetrator is white and the victim black) and as modern South Africas official crime statistics are notoriously massaged, it is impossible to know the exact numbers of farm murders that have taken place. Many reliable sources estimate the figure as close to 3,000, but even if we take the more conservative figure of 1,600 quoted in the politically correct South African press (but not quoted at all in ours) this is three times the numbers killed by the South African security forces over a period of 43 years, and which the UN calls a crime against humanity.
To put this in perspective, the population of South Africa is 47 million, (13 million less than Britain despite its far greater land mass) of which the 4.3 million whites account for 9.1%, about 1% less than the immigrant population of Britain. Can you imagine the outcry if 1,600 (let alone 3,000) members of a minority community in Britain were tortured to death by the native population?
Yet when the victims are white, there is hardly a peep in the South African press and silence from the international media. Compare this to when a white youth is the killer, such as in the case of white farmer Johan Nel, who shot three Africans who were trespassing on his farm, a story which became instant world-wide news with the predictable screams of racism and machete wielding mobs baying for his blood.
And they accuse us of hate?!! Dont such people nauseate themselves with their hypocrisy?!)
Crime aside, Mandela and his ANC inherited the strongest economy in Africa, indeed, despite economic sanctions, South Africa was still one of the richest nations in the world, and indeed initially there was a brief post Apartheid boom, resulting from the lifting of sanctions and due to the fact that until affirmative action forced most of the whites out of their jobs to be replaced by under qualified blacks, those who had built South Africa were still in place.
However, any optimism was to be short lived. Now, after just 14 years of rule by Mandela and his grim successor Mbeki, corruption is rife, the country is beset with power cuts and the infrastructure is crumbling. The nations great cities like Durban and Johannesburg, which could once rival the likes of Sydney, Vancouver and San Francisco, had descended in to decaying crime-ridden slums within a decade.
And in the last few weeks we have seen the so called Rainbow nations ultimate humiliation, as xenophobic anti immigration violence spreads across the country. Xenophobic is what the media call racism when blacks do it. As poverty and unemployment explodes and is exacerbated by the floods of immigrants flooding in to escape the even more advanced Africanisation of the rest of the continent, the mobs turn on those they blame for stealing their jobs, their homes, and their women.
Thus the cycle turns, and, like watching some barbaric version of Back to the Future, on the news we see exactly the same scenes we saw on our televisions twenty years ago, wrecked buildings, burning vehicles, mobs brandishing machetes, axes and knives hacking at everything and everyone which comes within their reach.
Most horrific of all, we see the return of that most savage symbol of African brutality, the necklace where, to the cheers of a blood thirsty crowd, some poor trembling soul, with a tyre around his neck, is dragged from his home and set alight, exactly as all those other poor souls were set alight throughout the Apartheid years, when we were told it was all the evil white mans fault. But the white Africans never ever did such a terrible thing: only the terrorists now in power did that to scare the other black Africans into joining their cause.
As nothing else the return of the necklace exposes the failure of Mandelas revolution, and those who fought for him should weep.
Under Apartheid, blacks and whites went to separate hospitals but they received world class health care, whatever their colour. Now the facilities are collapsing or non-existent.
Black children went to different schools than white children, but they received an education, something which is now a privileged luxury. When they grew up, their bosses may have been white, but they had jobs and a living wage, as the recent violence shows us, such security is but a memory for most South Africans.
Eighteen years after Nelson and Winnie made their historic walk towards the cameras, and 14 years, since Mandela assumed power on a tide of optimism, a once proud South Africa slides like a crumbling, crime-ridden, wreck towards a precipice created through greed, corruption and incompetence.
For all his gleaming smiles, grandfatherly hand gestures, and folksy sound bites, tomorrow night, when crowd cheers the retired terrorist in the gaudy shirt, they would do best not to focus too closely upon his much admired legacy, as they might just find that the Xhosan Emperor has no clothes. For Nelson Mandelas lasting achievement is that, in the face of a world wishing him well, he, and the party he leads, have shown the world that, for all its flaws, Apartheid was a more benign system than what replaced it, and that the average South African was immeasurably better off under the hated white rule than they are under the alternative that black rule has since created.
That is quite an achievement, Mr. Mandela; Happy Birthday.
As an addition, if Nelson Mandela was treated so badly, why is he now 90 years of age? In a black governed country in Africa, he would have died within months if he had not been hanged the time.
WESTERN LEADERS WEARING WINNIES NECKLACE TO MANDELA MEMORIAL
Nelson Mandelas funeral is a time for praying not preening
By Judi McLeod Monday, December 9, 2013
Barack and Michelle Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, George and Laura Bush will all figuratively wear a necklace at Nelson Mandelas memorial tomorrowthe Winnie Mandela necklace that is the most grotesque one of all time.
The prime ministers of Canada and Britain, Stephen Harper and David Cameron will wear the necklace, too. But none of the world leaders at the Mandela funeralDaily Mail touted as the biggest funeral in the world since Winston Churchillwill hear the screams of the young blacks who died in agony wearing the Winnie Mandela necklace.
Time and the politically correct era can never wash away the Crime of Humanity foisted on the blacks of South Africa when Communist African National Congress (ANC) freedom fighters and liberators sent hundreds to their death via the burning tire necklace.
The crime of the so many black brothers and sisters chosen for Death by Necklace? Suspicion of being too friendly to whites.
ANC members would take black people and hack off their hands or tie them behind the persons back with barbed wire. Then a gasoline-filled tire would be set alight around the victims (traitors) neck and they would slowly and very painfully burn to death. (Wiki.answers.com).
Videos of Death by Necklace, not for the sensitive, still exist. One shown in the 1980s to Toronto Sun reporters witnessed the death of a young black woman, who even in the agony of her torture, was so modest she tried to control her billowing skirt, will never be forgotten by anyone who saw it.
Its not as if western world leaders stampeding their sympathies at the Mandela memorial and state funeral can pretend they never knew.
Winnie Mandela, who will prominently attend funeral services of her late husband, was upfront about her belief in death by necklace.
Winnie Mandela famously screamed to thousands at a large open-air rally in 1985/86: with our matches and necklaces, well liberate this country!, implying that those who do not take ANCs side will be burnt alive. Such threats by Winnie Mandela could very well be considered terrorism against the very people she claimed to intend liberating. (Wiki.answers.com)
Exiled members of the ANC were taught about necklacings and torture techniques at terror-training camps in places like Angola (e.g.. Camp Quatro) and Mozambique.
Nor can the Obamas, the Clintons, the Bushs, the Camerons, the Harpers and all other Mandela funeral attendees pretend that necklacing is too far back for them to remember:
The spectre of necklacing showed its ugly head again in 2008 when foreign blacks, mostly Somali, Zimbabwean and other refugees were being set alight by their brothers and sisters in what was called the 2008 xenophobic attacks. (VG.no May 25, 2010)
Slogans such as one rope, one sellout, one bullet, one white baby and kill the boer (white/farmer) are still heard in SA today. In fact, a case of genocide has been made against 12 or 13 SA leaders, including the President (Jacob Zuma) and the ANC Youth League President, Julius Malema. According to the Rome Convention, incitement to commit genocide is also a punishable offence and the ANC has launched several appeals against court decisions that kill the boer is hate speech and incitement to commit genocide. The matter is being investigated by the ICC in The Hague. Shortly before the 2010 Soccer World Cup in South Africa, Winnie Mandelas staff was in the news for threatening a gun-store owner, and saying: July 12 all whites will be killed.
Like a pack of braying donkeys, world leaders will gather in South Africa preening for the cameras that will send their pictures world-wide to celebrity watchers.
But phony braying, and crocodile tears notwithstanding, some still remember the bone-chilling screams of South African blacks burnt alive by the unspeakable evil of ANC necklacing.
Nelson Mandelas funeral is a time for praying not preening.
Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard. Her work has appeared on Rush Limbaugh, Newsmax.com, Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and Glenn Beck.
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