Skip to comments.Raining on the Nelson Mandela Parade
Posted on 12/06/2013 6:23:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Nelson Mandela at the Communist Partys first public meeting in post-apartheid South Africa, 1990.
You're not supposed to speak ill of the dead, so I figured I'd get a head start.
One of the landmark events of my Gen X youth was the 11-hour, internationally televised Free Nelson Mandela concert in 1988.
Because, come on: how could you not be anti-apartheid?
It was a no-brainer, risk-free cause, the type you could support without having to think about it too much or inviting unpopularity or controversy, right?
Lots of big-name musicians who now boast of being on that concert roster were hesitant to sign on the dotted line unless other bands came on board first.
In fact, most of the backstage machinations and politicking are unedifying tales of cowardice and egomania.
During that concert and the massive publicity surrounding it, Nelson Mandela was presented to millions of young people around the world as a wrongly imprisoned, peace-loving freedom fighter, detained for decades by the evil, crazy, stupid white South Africans, who kept the rest of the countrys majority black population enslaved to various degrees, too.
(Speaking of enslavement, did you know that the term concentration camp originated, not in Nazi Germany, but in South Africa, to describe the disease-ridden camps in which South Africans were held by the British during the Second Boer War [1899-1902]?)
Idealistic kids eagerly embraced Mandela as the Gandhi they never had, a Martin Luther King of their very own.
Of course, the real Nelson Mandela was, like those two men, flawed. Arguably more so....
(Excerpt) Read more at pjmedia.com ...
Mandela = Communist
And that's just a start, here are just a few more:
I listened to all of that mandela coverage on a local “listener sponsored”...aka commie supporting radio stations... in utter amazement and disbelief
People were gushing his praises.
I dot think I could handle that now
lets hope OBIE doesnt show up at the funeral.
There’s a huge elephant in the room and no one in media is saying a word. South Africa is a crap hole and only getting worse. You decide why. Here’s some examples:
The starkest measure of South Africas failure is the yawning gap between rich and poor. Under apartheid, such inequality was by design. Since apartheid came to an end, a tiny black elite has accrued great fortunes. But that has only widened the wealth gap. South Africas Gini coefficientthe best-known measure of inequality, in which 0 is the most equal and 1 the leastwas 0.63 in 2009. In 1993 it was 0.59. After 18 years of full democracy, South Africa is one of the most unequal countries in the world.
Black corruption is rampant. In September 2012 Moodys, a credit agency, cut South Africas sovereign rating, citing the declining quality of the government, growing social stresses and worsening conditions for investment.
Schools suffer from poor equipment. Only 20% have libraries, and only 7.5% actually have any books. Almost half of all schools rely on pit latrines instead of proper toilets. In July 2012 textbooks that pupils should have received in January were found tossed into rivers in an effort to hide the failure to deliver them.
Here’s a detailed article about how bad it is:
You could not mention Menachem Begin without associating him with the Irgun bombing of the King David Hotel in the late 40’s.
I do see Joe Slovo in that picture. Another commie. From the Soviet Union, no less.
I suspect that it would have been better to have Mangosuthu Buthelezi leading rather than Mandela. I have worked with some engineers from South Africa who had viewed Buthelzi favorably, and were quite surpised that I had heard of him
I already blogged on this earlier today. My comment is that we have been deceived into seig-heiling Communist genocidal maniacs as saviors and ‘freedom fighters’ - our own occupant of the White House notwithstanding.
I started puking yesterday knowing the diversion and love fest that would follow this tyrants death......may he rest in hell.
So glad to read this. I’m tired of all the Mandela worshiping all over the media. Even Fox News is paying homage to this thug.
I had wondered why the MSM was gushing over him when larm bells were going off in my head about his background. Doing some checks online I see he was a dictator, a member of the African Communist Party who signed off on the deaths of many people and built up his military to protect himself. Remind you of anyone?
It needs to be pissing on,not raining on.
Don’t forget the necklace murders and disemboweling of WHite women after raping them.
Mandela was a communist terrorist.
Sounds familiar to me.
Thank heavens it’s the weekend. Maybe too much football to raise much attention. Lo-info jerks not withstanding.
I wish I could think you’re correct....this puke fest is going to last for the next two weeks.
Best timing for diversion I have ever seen.
This man was a saint who improved South Africa, bringing back and whites together and becoming the economic powerhouse it had always believed was its density.
Ok. He's dead. That's good.
These are all white farm murders?
Possibly not too obvious to many the connection here. Terrorism in the name of freedom and justice has many pitfalls. The British Army was caught in the crossfire between Arabs and Jews. This you will know, but as a matter of interest to others. July 22nd 1946. The Jewish terrorist organization was the Irgun.
The figures of the dead.
Palistinian Jews 17
The terrorists claimed they had phoned the hotel to warn them so they could evacuate. In any case, there were so many false alarms at that time, possibly not taken seriously.
Damn terrorists and that includes the late deity.
plaasmoorde = farm murder
Mandela simply turned the other way, like any communist or nazi would.
MANDELA THE MYTH
Sarah, the author of this factual article (written just before the 90th birthday party of this media celebrity), is an Englishwoman endowed with an incisive and razor-sharp understanding of South Africa s recent history as I do having lived there for 24 years. Unlike so many millions of brain-washed lemmings in the UK, she sees right through the media-contrived smoke & mirrors, lies and myths as propounded by the MSM. (Mass Media.) Thanks to Sarah for the OK to reproduce this here. It says it all.
It is often said that one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, however, this usually means that the other man has been less than fastidious in his choice of hero, or that the freedom fighter in question was on the crowd pleasing side. On the 27th of June, 2008 Londons Hyde Park played host to a concert in honour of Nelson Mandelas 90th birthday and it received wall to wall coverage by a star struck and worshipping media, who will continue to laud Mandela as one of the greatest, or indeed the greatest, heroes of our time.
The beaming old man will appeared on stage in one of his trademark multi-coloured shirts and cheerily acknowledge the cheers of the adoring crowd, most of whom have been taught to believe in his sainthood since their first days in primary school, which, for many of them, will have occurred around the same time their hero walked free from Robben Island.
The unquestioning belief in Mandelas universally admired saintliness will again be displayed in the press and by the unending line of politicians and dignitaries who will queue up to genuflect before him and sing his praises. It is a brave politician or journalist who would dare to question the godliness of this legend and consummate showman, and hence no such questions will be raised, nor will his much vaunted achievements be subjected to any objective scrutiny.
No matter how many speeches are given or how many news articles are written, it is safe to bet that the full truth about Mandela will not be told except by those who know and care about history being recorded factually.
In fact the truth about Mandela is so hidden in mythology and misinformation that most know nothing about him prior to Robben island, and those who do tend to exercise a form of self censorship, designed to bolster the myth whilst consigning uncomfortable facts into the mists of history.
For most people all they know about Mandela, prior to his release in 1990, was that he had spent 27 years in prison and was considered by many on the left at the time (and almost everyone now) to be a political prisoner. However, Mandela was no Burmese Aung San Suu Kyi, he was not an innocent, democratically elected leader, imprisoned by an authoritarian government.
Mandela was the terrorist leader of a violent terrorist organisation, the ANC (African National Congress) which was responsible for many thousands of, mostly black, deaths. The ANCs blood spattered history is frequently ignored, but reminders occasionally pop up in the most embarrassing places, indeed as recently as this month the names of Nelson Mandela and most of the ANC remained on the US governments terrorist watch list along with al-Qaeda, Hezbollah and the Tamil Tigers. Of course the forces of political correctness are rushing to amend that embarrassing reminder from the past. However, Mandelas name was not on that list by mistake, he was there because of his MURDEROUS PAST.
Before I am accused of calumny, it should be noted that Mandela does not seek to hide his past, in his autobiography the long walk to Freedom he casually admits signing off the 1983 Church Street bombing carried out by the ANC and killing 19 innocent people whilst injuring another 200.
It is true that Mandela approved that massacre and other ANC killings from his prison cell, and there is no evidence that he personally killed anyone but the same could be said about Stalin or Hitler, and the violent history of the ANC, the organisation he led is not in question.
According to the Human Rights Commission it is estimated that during the Apartheid period some 21,000 people were killed, however both the UN Crimes against Humanity commission and South Africas own Truth and Reconciliation Commission are in agreement that in those 43 years the South African Security forces killed a total of 518 people.
The rest, (some 92%) were accounted for by Africans killing Africans, many by means of the notorious and gruesome practice of necklacing whereby a car tyre full of petrol is placed around a victims neck and set alight.
This particularly cruel form of execution was frequently carried out at the behest of the ANC with the enthusiastic support of Mandelas demonic wife Winnie.
The brutal reappearance of the deadly necklace in recent weeks is something I shall reluctantly focus upon later.
Given that so much blood was on the hands of his party, and, as such, the newly appointed government, some may conclude that those who praised Mandelas mercy and forgiveness, when the Truth and Reconciliation tribunal set up after he came to power, to look into the Apartheid years, did not include a provision for sanctions, were being deliberately naive.
Such naivety is not uncommon when it comes to the adoring reporting of Nelson Mandela, and neither is the great leader himself rarely shy of playing up his image of fatherly elder statesman and multi-purpose paragon.
However, in truth, the ANCs conscious decision to reject a policy of non-violence, such as that chosen by Gandhi, in their struggle against the white government, had left them, and by extension, their leader, with at least as much blood on their hands as their one time oppressors, and this fact alone prevented them from enacting the revenge which might otherwise have been the case.
As the first post Apartheid president of South Africa it would, be unfair if not ludicrous to judge Mandela entirely on the basis of events before he came to power, and in any event there is many a respected world leader or influential statesman with a blood stained past so in the next part I shall examine Nelson Mandelas achievements, and the events which have occurred in South Africa in the 14 short years since he took power in following the post Apartheid election in 1994.
MANDELA - THE LEGEND AND THE LEGACY PART 2, BY SARAH, MAID OF ALBION.
In the second of two articles examining the life of Nelson Mandela, in advance of Fridays concert in Hyde Park celebrating the living legends 90th birthday, I shall look at his legacy and the new South Africa which he created after coming to power on a surge of worldwide optimism and hope in 1994, when, following the end of Apartheid, he and his followers promised a new dawn for what became termed the Rainbow Nation.
Today South Africa has the reputation of being one of the most dangerous and crime ridden nations on Earth which is not actively at War. In 2001, only seven years after the end of Apartheid, whilst the city of Amsterdam in the Netherlands with 5,6 murders per 100,000 population was declared the murder capitol of Europe, Johannesburg, with 61.2 murders per 100,00 population and remains the worlds top murder city.
In South Africa as a whole, the murder rate is seven times that of America, in terms of rape the rate is ten times as high and includes the ugly phenomenon of child rape, one of the few activities in which South Africa is now a world leader. If you dont believe me, you can read what Oprah Winfrey has to say about it here.
All other forms of violent crime are out of control, and Johannesburg is among the top world cities for muggings and violent assault, a fact seldom mentioned in connection with the FIFA Soccer 2010 World Cup which is scheduled to be hosted in South Africa.
As always with black violence the primary victims are their fellow blacks, however, the rape, murder and violent assault of whites is a daily event, and there is more .....
As with the Rhodesian/Zimbabwean Matabeleland massacres, news of which the BBC, together with much of the world media suppressed for twenty years to protect their one time hero, Zimbabwes Robert Mugabe, another secret genocide is being ignored by the world media, the genocide of white Boer farmers, thousands of whom have been horribly tortured to death in their homes since the end of Apartheid. Anyone who clicks on this link should we warned that it includes some very gruesome images as the savagery of these attacks belie the authorities attempts to dismiss them as nothing more than a crime wave.
Given that it is now all but illegal in South Africa to report the race of either victim or the perpetrator of a crime (unless the perpetrator is white and the victim black) and as modern South Africas official crime statistics are notoriously massaged, it is impossible to know the exact numbers of farm murders that have taken place. Many reliable sources estimate the figure as close to 3,000, but even if we take the more conservative figure of 1,600 quoted in the politically correct South African press (but not quoted at all in ours) this is three times the numbers killed by the South African security forces over a period of 43 years, and which the UN calls a crime against humanity.
To put this in perspective, the population of South Africa is 47 million, (13 million less than Britain despite its far greater land mass) of which the 4.3 million whites account for 9.1%, about 1% less than the immigrant population of Britain. Can you imagine the outcry if 1,600 (let alone 3,000) members of a minority community in Britain were tortured to death by the native population?
Yet when the victims are white, there is hardly a peep in the South African press and silence from the international media. Compare this to when a white youth is the killer, such as in the case of white farmer Johan Nel, who shot three Africans who were trespassing on his farm, a story which became instant world-wide news with the predictable screams of racism and machete wielding mobs baying for his blood.
And they accuse us of hate?!! Dont such people nauseate themselves with their hypocrisy?!)
Crime aside, Mandela and his ANC inherited the strongest economy in Africa, indeed, despite economic sanctions, South Africa was still one of the richest nations in the world, and indeed initially there was a brief post Apartheid boom, resulting from the lifting of sanctions and due to the fact that until affirmative action forced most of the whites out of their jobs to be replaced by under qualified blacks, those who had built South Africa were still in place.
However, any optimism was to be short lived. Now, after just 14 years of rule by Mandela and his grim successor Mbeki, corruption is rife, the country is beset with power cuts and the infrastructure is crumbling. The nations great cities like Durban and Johannesburg, which could once rival the likes of Sydney, Vancouver and San Francisco, had descended in to decaying crime-ridden slums within a decade.
And in the last few weeks we have seen the so called Rainbow nations ultimate humiliation, as xenophobic anti immigration violence spreads across the country. Xenophobic is what the media call racism when blacks do it. As poverty and unemployment explodes and is exacerbated by the floods of immigrants flooding in to escape the even more advanced Africanisation of the rest of the continent, the mobs turn on those they blame for stealing their jobs, their homes, and their women.
Thus the cycle turns, and, like watching some barbaric version of Back to the Future, on the news we see exactly the same scenes we saw on our televisions twenty years ago, wrecked buildings, burning vehicles, mobs brandishing machetes, axes and knives hacking at everything and everyone which comes within their reach.
Most horrific of all, we see the return of that most savage symbol of African brutality, the necklace where, to the cheers of a blood thirsty crowd, some poor trembling soul, with a tyre around his neck, is dragged from his home and set alight, exactly as all those other poor souls were set alight throughout the Apartheid years, when we were told it was all the evil white mans fault. But the white Africans never ever did such a terrible thing: only the terrorists now in power did that to scare the other black Africans into joining their cause.
As nothing else the return of the necklace exposes the failure of Mandelas revolution, and those who fought for him should weep.
Under Apartheid, blacks and whites went to separate hospitals but they received world class health care, whatever their colour. Now the facilities are collapsing or non-existent.
Black children went to different schools than white children, but they received an education, something which is now a privileged luxury. When they grew up, their bosses may have been white, but they had jobs and a living wage, as the recent violence shows us, such security is but a memory for most South Africans.
Eighteen years after Nelson and Winnie made their historic walk towards the cameras, and 14 years, since Mandela assumed power on a tide of optimism, a once proud South Africa slides like a crumbling, crime-ridden, wreck towards a precipice created through greed, corruption and incompetence.
For all his gleaming smiles, grandfatherly hand gestures, and folksy sound bites, tomorrow night, when crowd cheers the retired terrorist in the gaudy shirt, they would do best not to focus too closely upon his much admired legacy, as they might just find that the Xhosan Emperor has no clothes. For Nelson Mandelas lasting achievement is that, in the face of a world wishing him well, he, and the party he leads, have shown the world that, for all its flaws, Apartheid was a more benign system than what replaced it, and that the average South African was immeasurably better off under the hated white rule than they are under the alternative that black rule has since created.
That is quite an achievement, Mr. Mandela; Happy Birthday.
As an addition, if Nelson Mandela was treated so badly, why is he now 90 years of age? In a black governed country in Africa, he would have died within months if he had not been hanged the time.
Like Obama, Nelson was a commie and his Mommy was a commie.
It’s hilarious reading all the tributes from dummies using words like “human dignity” & “freedom” and so forth and so on.
Mandela was a stone killer and career criminal. And Barry admires him. I won’t go into any buildings flying the flag half-staff for this thug.
Freaking Governor ‘Goofy Eyes’ Dayton ordered the flag at half mast here in Minnesota in “honor” of Mandela.
I hate what this country has become under fascists.
It’s not unusual to see everybody in the MSM, including FOX and others, saying and writing the same things about an event or individual, and you think to yourself, “Man, I really want to think good things about the deceased/what happened here.” But this guy was a bad man, not a “saint.”
So, you come here to Free Republic and you find the unvarnished truth, the man Nelson Mandela stripped of emotion, illusions and political cant.
The only way you could not condemn Mandela would be if you sincerely believed that the end always justify the means. And to think that way, you’re probably a communist or a democrat. But I repeat myself.
What’s the good word? Nelson Mandela is dead.
2ndDivisionVet. Thanks for posting Kathy’s missive. I’m really surprised at some of the supposed conservative talking heads praising this pos. ANC=African National Communists.
So, by this logic we should honor Stalin, right? And apartheid wasn't nearly as evil as Nazism. The Boers brought civilization to a people, Bantus, who could/can barely cope with civilization. Sorry, I just can't join the We Love Mandela campaign.
The other elephant in the room is that only a tiny percentage of S. Africa’s black population can cope with modern civilization. The Boers knew that. “Freeing” the black population of S. Africa (who lived better than all the other blacks of Africa) means letting them descend back into the abyss of discivilization or uncivilization. Like all the other black-run African countries. Look at Zimbabwe.
The OUTCOME of Mandela's activism is highly relevant to past, current, and future events. There is much to learn about the downstream effects of racial "liberation", and none of it is good.
Here, as well as there, admiration for the supposed personal characteristics of leaders blinds us to the consequences in the real world of what they propose to do.
CAVEAT ON NELSON MANDELA
Townhall.com ^ | December 7, 2013 | Humberto Fontova
A Martian visiting earth this week, coasting TV channels and perusing papers, would have to conclude that among the items that most interest this planets news bureaus is the plight of former political prisoners, especially black ones.
Well, many Cubans (many of them black) suffered longer and more horrible incarceration in Castros KGB-designed dungeons than Nelson Mandela spent in South Africas (relatively) comfortable prisons, which were open to inspection by the Red Cross. Castro has never allowed a Red Cross delegation anywhere near his real prisons. Now lets see if you recognize some of the Cuban ex-prisoners and torture-victims:
Mario Chanes (30 years), Ignacio Cuesta Valle, (29 years) Antonio López Muñoz, (28 years) in Dasio Hernández Peña (28 years) Dr. Alberto Fibla (28 years) Pastor Macurán (28 years) Roberto Martin Perez (28 years) Roberto Perdomo (28 years) Teodoro González (28 years.) Jose L.Pujals (27 years) Miguel A. Alvarez Cardentey (27 years.) Eusebio Penalver (28 years.)
No? None of these names ring a bell? And yet their suffering took place only 90 miles from U.S. shores in a locale absolutely lousy with international press bureaus and their intrepid investigative reporters. From CNN to NBC, from Reuters to the AP, from ABC to NPR to CBS, Castro welcomes all of these to embed and report from his fiefdom.
This fiefdom, by the way, is responsible for the jailing and torture of the most political prisoners (many black) per-capita of any regime in the modern history of the Western hemisphere, more in fact than Stalins at the height of the Great Terror. But the Martian would only learn that it provides free and fabulous healthcare and is subject to a cruel and archaic embargo by a superpower.
Here are some choice Mandela-isms:
Che Guevara is an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom.
The cause of Communism is the greatest cause in the history of mankind!
Theres one place where (Fidel Castros) Cuba stands out head and shoulders above the rest that is in its love for human rights and liberty!
Here are a few items the Martian would probably never learn regarding Nelson Mandela or the Stalinist regime he adored:
South Africas apartheid regime was no model of liberty. But even its most violent enemies enjoyed a bona fide day in court under a judge who was not beholden to a dictator for his job (or his life.)
When Nelson Mandela was convicted of 193 counts of terrorism committed between 1961 and 1963, including the preparation, manufacture and use of explosives, including 210,000 hand grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate, his trial had observers from around the free world. The trial has been properly conducted, wrote Anthony Sampson, correspondent for the liberal London Observer. The judge, Mr Justice Quartus de Wet, has been scrupulously fair. Sampson admitted this though his own sympathies veered strongly towards Mandela. (Indeed, Sampson went on to write Nelson Mandelas authorized biography.)
In sharp contrast, when Ruby Hart Phillips, the Havana correspondent for the flamingly Castrophile New York Times, attended a mass-trial of accused Castro-regime enemies, she gaped in horror. The defense attorney made absolutely no defense, instead he apologized to the court for defending the prisoners, she wrote in February 1959. The whole procedure was sickening. The defendants were all murdered by firing squad the following dawn.
In 1961 a Castro regime prosecutor named Idelfonso Canales explained Cubas new system to a stupefied defendant, named Rivero Caro who was himself a practicing lawyer in pre-Castro Cuba. Forget your lawyer mentality, laughed Canales. What you say doesnt matter. What proof you provide doesnt matter, even what the prosecuting attorney says doesnt matter. The only thing that matters is what the G-2 (military police) says!
According to Anti-Apartheid activists a grand total of 3,000 political prisoners passed through South Africas Robben Island prison in roughly 30 years under the Apartheid regime, (all after trials similar to the one described above by Anthony Sampson.) Usually about a thousand were held. These were out of a South African population of 40 million. Heres what Mandelas jail cell looked like towards the end of his sentence.
N*gger! taunted my jailers between tortures. recalled Castros prisoner Eusebio Penalver to this writer. We pulled you down from the trees and cut off your tail! they laughed at me. For months I was naked in a 6 x 4 foot cell Thats 4 feet high, so you couldnt stand. But they never succeeded in branding me as common criminal, so I felt a great freedom inside myself. I refused to commit spiritual suicide, continued the late Mr Penalver.
According to the Human Rights group, Freedom House, a grand total of 500,000 political prisoners have passed through Castros various prisons and forced labor camps (many after trails like the one described by R.H Phillips above, others with none whatsoever.) At one time in 1961, some 300,000 Cubans were jailed for political offenses (in torture chambers and forced-labor camps designed by Stalins disciples, not like Mandelas as seen above.) This was out of a Cuban population in 1960 of 6.4 million.
So who did the world embargo for injustice? and human-rights abuses? (Apartheid South Africa, of course) And who currently sits on the UNs Human Rights Council? (Stalinist Cuba.)
In brief, none of the craziness Alice found after tumbling down that rabbit hole comes close to the craziness Cuba-watchers read and see almost daily.
The best that can be said about Mandela is that he didn't turn out nearly as bad as what I expected. His ex-wife Winnie wanted to follow the Mugabe model of killing and expelling all whites in South Africa, as had been done in Zimbabwe. Nelson Mandela was at least practical enough to recognize that if he did this, his country would collapse just as Zimbabwe did. So he deserves some grudging respect for that.
Otherwise, Mandela was just another neo-Marxist leading a terrorist Third World "liberation" movement responsible for thousands of murders. He and the ANC were "peacemakers" in the same way as Yasser Arafat and the PLO were peacemakers at Camp David. Yet people seem to have the sense not the elevate Yasser Arafat to secular sainthood.