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Obama’s path was shaped by Mandela’s story
New York Times ^ | Dec 06, 2013 | Michael D. Shear

Posted on 12/06/2013 8:52:06 PM PST by MeshugeMikey

Without Nelson Mandela, there might never have been a President Obama.

That is the strong impression conveyed from Mr. Obama, whose political and personal bonds to Mr. Mandela, the former South African president, transcended their single face-to-face meeting, which took place at a hotel here in 2005.

It was the fight for racial justice in South Africa by Mr. Mandela that first inspired a young Barack Obama to public service, the American president recalled on Thursday evening after hearing that Mr. Mandela, the 95-year-old world icon, had died. Mr. Obama delivered his first public speech, in 1979, at an anti-apartheid rally

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1 posted on 12/06/2013 8:52:06 PM PST by MeshugeMikey
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First Lincoln, then the Rodeo Clown, now Mandela. I’m sure I missed a few.


2 posted on 12/06/2013 8:55:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MeshugeMikey


"Without Nelson Mandela, there might never have been a President Obama."

just a hunch but that jawline and mouth are strikingky familiar

the similarity is haunting


3 posted on 12/06/2013 8:56:39 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

Oh, FFS. How predictable. Of course, we could *never* have written such a story while Mandela was alive.


4 posted on 12/06/2013 8:56:53 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: Gene Eric

the first line of the article...is bugging me.

I sense that these two share more than a love of communism

see the photos above.


5 posted on 12/06/2013 8:58:14 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

Just in case you thought it was about planting Mandrake, Barry shows up on cue to say, “Look at me!”


6 posted on 12/06/2013 9:00:24 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Indeed.

7 posted on 12/06/2013 9:02:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Pinkos. Both of them.


8 posted on 12/06/2013 9:03:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

So we can blame Mandela for this crap?


9 posted on 12/06/2013 9:03:52 PM PST by boycott
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whos mouth and jaw are we looking at :??

obama or mandela?
10 posted on 12/06/2013 9:06:11 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: boycott
perhaps even more so than the writer knows...

scarey isnt it,,,is it obama..or is it mandela?

somebody collect some dna while theres still time..


11 posted on 12/06/2013 9:08:29 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: BenLurkin; MeshugeMikey

>> Pinkos. Both of them.

Anyone who embraces communism is an idiot.


12 posted on 12/06/2013 9:09:49 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

wow! This was in need of a barf alert.


13 posted on 12/06/2013 9:10:07 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: boycott

“So we can blame Mandela for this crap?”

Yes. And Bush. And oh, what the heck, I blame De Klerk too!

THANKS GUYS!


14 posted on 12/06/2013 9:12:30 PM PST by jocon307
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To: MeshugeMikey

good grief...how embarrassing

15 posted on 12/06/2013 9:13:02 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: MeshugeMikey

These MSM schmucks are going to try and go back to their Obama slurp fest now, but I don’t think it’s going to work.


16 posted on 12/06/2013 9:13:44 PM PST by jocon307
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To: MeshugeMikey

More likely “Reverand” Wright and Bill Ayers shaped Obama’s path.


17 posted on 12/06/2013 9:14:53 PM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: MeshugeMikey

If he’s following the same path, when does his prison time start??


18 posted on 12/06/2013 9:16:55 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

The Question Of The Day, Hour, Week and Year!


19 posted on 12/06/2013 9:18:20 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

he and Jay Carney use the same barber evidently!


20 posted on 12/06/2013 9:19:27 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

I saw that cut at Great Clips. That’s the ‘Amon Goeth’. Heil NYT!


21 posted on 12/06/2013 9:31:51 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: MeshugeMikey
This requires a link to Mandela’s famous tome, How To Be A Good Communist.
22 posted on 12/06/2013 9:44:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: MeshugeMikey

“Obama’s path was shaped by Mandela’s story”

Yeah, yeah and Shrillary was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. The only thing that Nobama had in common with Mandela, besides color, was that they are both communists. Not high praise in my book.


23 posted on 12/06/2013 9:51:58 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

“public service” myas If he truly cared about “the public” he’d move back to Africa


24 posted on 12/06/2013 10:00:57 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Obamacare: We told you so)
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25 posted on 12/06/2013 10:19:19 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: MeshugeMikey

I thought Obama sees himself as a Travon Martin ???


26 posted on 12/06/2013 10:27:30 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: MeshugeMikey

Oh good grief!


27 posted on 12/06/2013 10:40:58 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: MeshugeMikey

At the time that Mandela was inspiring and “shaping” Obama’s path to power, he was cooperating with both the KGB who ran the Communist Party of South Africa (SACP) and the SACP’s control of the African National Congress (ANC).

See the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee’s hearings on Communism in South Africa. Documents you have never seen before plus inside-the-movement testimony which got one witness killed by the ANC when a Senator leaked his name (Sen.Leahy?).

Mandela changed over time, but he always supported the SACP and their ANC front. These are historical factors which must be taken into account when writing about him (the good and the bad).


28 posted on 12/06/2013 11:35:26 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: All

Yes, Mandela was a Communist.
Obama is currently a Communist.


29 posted on 12/07/2013 2:26:47 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield (“Close the Voter ID Loophole! ID & Background checks for all voters!”)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Another reason to hate Mandela.


30 posted on 12/07/2013 4:36:38 AM PST by driftless2
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To: sickoflibs

The whole point is that everything must have mac daddy as its center point of focus.

IT’S MUST ALWAYS BE ABOUT HIM.


31 posted on 12/07/2013 6:23:49 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: MeshugeMikey

DON’T MOURN FOR MANDELA

Exclusive: Joseph Farah says man ‘wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman’
12/6/2013

by JOSEPH FARAH

Joseph Farah is founder, editor and CEO of WND and a nationally syndicated columnist with Creators News Service.. He is the author or co-author of 13 books, including his latest, “The Tea Party Manifesto,” and his classic, “Taking America Back,” now in its third edition and 14th printing. Farah is the former editor of the legendary Sacramento Union and other major-market dailies.

The whole world, pretty much, is mourning for Nelson Mandela today.

But most are not mourning for the real Mandela. They are, in fact, mourning for the myth of Mandela.
He was not Martin Luther King Jr. He was not Mahatma Gandhi. And he was certainly not George Washington, as Barack Obama claimed.

He was a committed member of the South African Communist Party. He was a leader of the revolutionary African National Congress, which he helped to radicalize into an organization sworn to armed, violent attacks.

Maybe you say: “But Farah, he was fighting against the evil of Apartheid!”

Yes, that is true. Apartheid was inarguably an evil and unjustifiable system. But so is the system Mandela’s revolution brought about – one in which anti-white racism is so strong today that a prominent genocide watchdog group has labeled the current situation a “precursor” to the deliberate, systematic elimination of the race.

In other words, the world has been sold a bill of goods about Mandela. He wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman. He wasn’t someone fighting for racial equality. He was the leader of a violent, Communist revolution that has nearly succeeded in all of its grisly horror.

But don’t believe me.

I’ve never been to South Africa – not during Apartheid and not after.

Instead, listen to Sonia Hruska. She was an early supporter of Mandela and worked in his administration.

“After about six years,” Hruska said, “I realized something serious is wrong; the communist elements are taking over, it’s not what we were promised.”

What did she see that the rest of the world missed?
“As a business owner, I can get 25 years in jail time if I do employ a white person, for instance,” she said. “It is totally ridiculous; you cannot have imagined that affirmative action could have gone so far.”

Today, in South Africa’s white population of 4 million, 1 million live in utter poverty.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Hruska describes routine, violent, racist atrocities of almost unimaginable proportions: Kidnap murders, home invasions, gang rapes.

“It’s heinous torture,” Hruska explained. “Even children as young as 2 months old get burned with hot water, get wrapped in newspaper and burned.”

In the case of one family, Hruska described a black mob breaking into a home, waiting for the white family to get home, then raping the mother in front of the father and son to see. Then, after killing the mother, they killed the father and son by plunging them into boiling water.
She said: “There is no easy way of saying exactly how these people are tortured. The standard would be a hot iron, electric iron, boiling water … and these are carried out for hours.”

You will read today many stories describing Mandela as a “political prisoner.”

In fact, he served 27 years in prison for 23 specific acts of sabotage and attempting to overthrow the government.

It was only a year ago that some of the international press began to report the truth about Mandela for the first time. Last December, the London Telegraph reported that, indeed, the records showed Mandela was not only a member of the South African Communist Party, he held a “senior rank.”

By the way, Mandela was offered his freedom while incarcerated many times. All he had to do was renounce terrorism. He wouldn’t do it.

Of course, it’s fashionable to forget about all of this today. Nelson Mandela is dead. He is being proclaimed a saint all over the world.

Nevertheless, these inconvenient truths need to be stated by someone because the Mandela mythology is as dangerous as the terror he and his followers perpetrated on so many innocent victims – white and black.


32 posted on 12/07/2013 6:24:54 AM PST by Dqban22
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Neither is the Barack Hussein Obama who is “mourning” the death of Nelson Mandela, the Barack Hussein Obama glorified by the mainstream media’s propaganda.

the parallels are unmistakable and just as dangerous.


33 posted on 12/07/2013 7:06:26 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: sickoflibs

“If I had a grandfather he’d look a lot like Nelson Mandela?”


34 posted on 12/07/2013 7:09:48 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Mastador1
Barry's veiw of himself and his "path" is mirrored by all of the media except...up until this point...Painters of Religious Icons....but Ive changed that,,,,




35 posted on 12/07/2013 7:12:24 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

You forgot to tag the dragon America.


36 posted on 12/07/2013 8:43:24 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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it was a quick...project....

thank you.

how is hillary already being sworn in....prior ro be elected... in this politcal ad....for her candidacy?




37 posted on 12/07/2013 8:57:34 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

it was a quick...project....

thank you.

how is hillary already being sworn in....prior ro be elected... in this politcal ad....for her candidacy?

First< I really liked your Obama cartoon and did not mean to criticize. Your Hillary piece is friggin scary it’s so believable!


38 posted on 12/07/2013 9:06:22 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: BenLurkin

CAVEAT ON NELSON MANDELA

Townhall.com ^ | December 7, 2013 | Humberto Fontova

A Martian visiting earth this week, coasting TV channels and perusing papers, would have to conclude that among the items that most interest this planet’s news bureaus is the plight of former political prisoners, especially black ones.

Well, many Cubans (many of them black) suffered longer and more horrible incarceration in Castro’s KGB-designed dungeons than Nelson Mandela spent in South Africa’s (relatively) comfortable prisons, which were open to inspection by the Red Cross. Castro has never allowed a Red Cross delegation anywhere near his real prisons. Now let’s see if you recognize some of the Cuban ex-prisoners and torture-victims:

Mario Chanes (30 years), Ignacio Cuesta Valle, (29 years) Antonio López Muñoz, (28 years) in Dasio Hernández Peña (28 years) Dr. Alberto Fibla (28 years) Pastor Macurán (28 years) Roberto Martin Perez (28 years) Roberto Perdomo (28 years) Teodoro González (28 years.) Jose L.Pujals (27 years) Miguel A. Alvarez Cardentey (27 years.) Eusebio Penalver (28 years.)

No? None of these names ring a bell? And yet their suffering took place only 90 miles from U.S. shores in a locale absolutely lousy with international press bureaus and their intrepid “investigative reporters.” From CNN to NBC, from Reuters to the AP, from ABC to NPR to CBS, Castro welcomes all of these to “embed” and “report” from his fiefdom.

This fiefdom, by the way, is responsible for the jailing and torture of the most political prisoners (many black) per-capita of any regime in the modern history of the Western hemisphere, more in fact than Stalin’s at the height of the Great Terror. But the Martian would only learn that it provides free and fabulous healthcare and is subject to a “cruel” and “archaic” embargo by a superpower.
Here are some choice Mandela-isms:

“Che Guevara is an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom.”

“The cause of Communism is the greatest cause in the history of mankind!”

“There’s one place where (Fidel Castro’s) Cuba stands out head and shoulders above the rest – that is in its love for human rights and liberty!”

Here are a few items the Martian would probably never learn regarding Nelson Mandela or the Stalinist regime he adored:

South Africa’s apartheid regime was no model of liberty. But even its most violent enemies enjoyed a bona fide day in court under a judge who was not beholden to a dictator for his job (or his life.)

When Nelson Mandela was convicted of “193 counts of terrorism committed between 1961 and 1963, including the preparation, manufacture and use of explosives, including 210,000 hand grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate,” his trial had observers from around the free world. “The trial has been properly conducted,” wrote Anthony Sampson, correspondent for the liberal London Observer. “The judge, Mr Justice Quartus de Wet, has been scrupulously fair.” Sampson admitted this though his own sympathies veered strongly towards Mandela. (Indeed, Sampson went on to write Nelson Mandela’s authorized biography.)

In sharp contrast, when Ruby Hart Phillips, the Havana correspondent for the flamingly Castrophile New York Times, attended a mass-trial of accused Castro-regime enemies, she gaped in horror. “The defense attorney made absolutely no defense, instead he apologized to the court for defending the prisoners,” she wrote in February 1959. “The whole procedure was sickening.” The defendants were all murdered by firing squad the following dawn.

In 1961 a Castro regime prosecutor named Idelfonso Canales explained Cuba’s new system to a stupefied “defendant,” named Rivero Caro who was himself a practicing lawyer in pre-Castro Cuba. “Forget your lawyer mentality,” laughed Canales. “What you say doesn’t matter. What proof you provide doesn’t matter, even what the prosecuting attorney says doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is what the G-2 (military police) says!”

A reminder:

According to Anti-Apartheid activists a grand total of 3,000 political prisoners passed through South Africa’s Robben Island prison in roughly 30 years under the Apartheid regime, (all after trials similar to the one described above by Anthony Sampson.) Usually about a thousand were held. These were out of a South African population of 40 million. Here’s what Mandela’s “jail cell” looked like towards the end of his sentence.

“N*gger!” taunted my jailers between tortures. “recalled Castro’s prisoner Eusebio Penalver to this writer. “We pulled you down from the trees and cut off your tail!” they laughed at me. “For months I was naked in a 6 x 4 foot cell That’s 4 feet high, so you couldn’t stand. But they never succeeded in branding me as common criminal, so I felt a great freedom inside myself. I refused to commit spiritual suicide,” continued the late Mr Penalver.

According to the Human Rights group, Freedom House, a grand total of 500,000 political prisoners have passed through Castro’s various prisons and forced labor camps (many after trails like the one described by R.H Phillips above, others with none whatsoever.) At one time in 1961, some 300,000 Cubans were jailed for political offenses (in torture chambers and forced-labor camps designed by Stalin’s disciples, not like Mandela’s as seen above.) This was out of a Cuban population in 1960 of 6.4 million.

So who did the world embargo for “injustice?” and “human-rights abuses?” (Apartheid South Africa, of course) And who currently sits on the UN’s Human Rights Council? (Stalinist Cuba.)

In brief, none of the craziness Alice found after tumbling down that rabbit hole comes close to the craziness Cuba-watchers read and see almost


39 posted on 12/07/2013 9:09:20 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: Mastador1
i fixed it...and made the dragon a tad more Visually....representative of America....


40 posted on 12/07/2013 9:21:42 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Mastador1
hillarys possessed and she LIKES it! That IS Scarey !

we have a manchurian President.in the Whitehouse...and a Demonic Would be President...in the wings.....

were doomed.


41 posted on 12/07/2013 9:23:44 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

I like it even more now!


42 posted on 12/07/2013 10:11:41 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1
Than you Im ripping through creating these posters at an alarming speed the last version of this Obama poster included him with hair....

this I believe to be a slight...improvement

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/jnlevine/chinese-menu/
43 posted on 12/07/2013 10:15:26 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

Very nice work, captures his inner coolie.


44 posted on 12/07/2013 3:59:57 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

Thank you.


45 posted on 12/07/2013 4:07:48 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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