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After Snubbing Thatcher Funeral, Obama and Michelle to Visit South Africa for Mandela
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Posted on 12/06/2013 9:42:24 PM PST by chessplayer

On Friday, the White House announced that President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama would travel to South Africa next weeks to pay their respects to Nelson Mandela. Obama has already announced that the White House will fly the flags at half-staff though December 9 in Mandela’s honor.

When former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher died, President Obama did not lower the White House flags, nor did he attend her funeral, instead sending ex-Secretaries of State George Shultz and James Baker III.

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KEYWORDS: anc; bho44; bhoafrica; flotusmichelle; mandela; nelsonmandela; snub; southafrica; thatcher
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1 posted on 12/06/2013 9:42:24 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Six and twelve my presidente’. South Africa is not a Maryland community college.


2 posted on 12/06/2013 9:45:43 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: chessplayer

Okay we all knew they were friggin racists, won’t go to pay respects to a White, woman head of state but are all in for a communist Black head of state.


3 posted on 12/06/2013 9:46:28 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: chessplayer

Race identity polititics....

and turrets....


4 posted on 12/06/2013 9:46:39 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: chessplayer

LOL!
The grifters tried and failed ot get a face to face with Mandela before he died. Now the funeral will be all about the O’bama’s.

me me me I I I I my my my my me me me


5 posted on 12/06/2013 9:48:48 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: chessplayer

I wish they would both were a Mandela Necklace in honor of the occasion.


6 posted on 12/06/2013 9:50:28 PM PST by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: chessplayer

Time to glom onto Mandela’s glory Barack?


7 posted on 12/06/2013 9:54:57 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: chessplayer

Baroness Thatcher owned slaves, dontcha know.....


8 posted on 12/06/2013 9:59:50 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: chessplayer

I hope no one interprets my comment to mean I supported apartheid. Like Reagan, I despised apartheid and found it utterly repugnant.


Mandela was not fit to shine Thatcher’s shoes!

Why do so many on the left support and even worship Marxist lunatics like Mandela, Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega and others of their ilk? Have they no sense at all!?


9 posted on 12/06/2013 10:03:28 PM PST by Bobalu (White Boy Think A Lot)
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To: chessplayer

The GW Bush’s and Clinton’s are also going.


10 posted on 12/06/2013 10:05:25 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Vendome

Pretty much


11 posted on 12/06/2013 10:05:45 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: chessplayer

Heard this on Levin tonight. Never in a million years could I imagine anyone would disgrace the Office like these two clowns are doing - and on a daily basis to boot.


12 posted on 12/06/2013 10:06:13 PM PST by Paulie
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To: chessplayer

SOCIALISTS MOURN SOCIALISTS.


13 posted on 12/06/2013 10:06:20 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: chessplayer

The longer he stays in office, the more he distances himself from us.


14 posted on 12/06/2013 10:06:21 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: chessplayer

Can we pay South Africa to keep them?


15 posted on 12/06/2013 10:06:24 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: laplata

>> The GW Bush’s and Clinton’s are also going.

Dubya is actively involved in the welfare of SA. And he’s modest about it in comparison.


16 posted on 12/06/2013 10:07:46 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Paulie

Majority of the electorate are the true disgrace. Obama is just a symptom of the real disease.


17 posted on 12/06/2013 10:09:42 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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I bet they would have snubbed the Thatcher funeral if she happened to be black. It’s an ideological thing. BOzo is 50% black and 50% white but he’s 100% commie.


18 posted on 12/06/2013 10:10:13 PM PST by Hayride
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To: Bobalu

Mandela was by far the best of these. However, his successors have been men of such low character that I fear that within ten years, all the whites will have disappeared from the country.


19 posted on 12/06/2013 10:11:09 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: rollo tomasi

The real disease has infected our elites. They made this man possible.


20 posted on 12/06/2013 10:13:28 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Gene Eric

Dubya is actively involved in the welfare of SA. And he’s modest about it in comparison.


The Obamas and Clintons will upstage him.

As you probably know, GW did a lot to combat AIDS in Africa.


21 posted on 12/06/2013 10:16:00 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: RobbyS

Who are the real fools? Is it the fool or the people who freely follow and give power to the fool?


22 posted on 12/06/2013 10:16:08 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: chessplayer

My reaction to the snub when Thatcher died was disbelief.

You just don’t do that to what is arguably our best ally [Great Britain].

I wonder what the Brits think now that Obama is going to South Africa - they were probably really pissed about the Thatcher snub, they are probably MAJORLY pissed about this ...


23 posted on 12/06/2013 10:26:52 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: rollo tomasi

Or is it the people that know it’s happening and sit by, doing nothing, those trying to share a piece of the pie before it’s all gone?


24 posted on 12/06/2013 10:27:27 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: RobbyS

South Africa has officially ended apartheid, but societies are still segregated. This duality is not helped with many black tribalists freely expressing their bitter, jealous feelings for whites. Remember that one legged Olympic runner accused of shooting his fiancé through the bathroom door? That fellow and his family live in one of many gated communities. They feel the need to moat themselves off in order to stay alive through the night.


25 posted on 12/06/2013 10:32:28 PM PST by lee martell
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To: laplata

>> As you probably know, GW did a lot to combat AIDS in Africa.

Yes.

The two douche bags will never upstage GW.


26 posted on 12/06/2013 10:50:54 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: chessplayer

Obama has already announced that the White House will fly the flags at half-staff though December 9 in Mandela’s honor.

The American Flag is supposed to fly at half staff today fir PEARL HARBOR.
Come on Obama. Buy a friggin clue!


27 posted on 12/06/2013 11:27:39 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign is for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: chessplayer

Obama has so little class.

Republicans for all their flaws are so much more adult when they are in the Whitehouse.


28 posted on 12/06/2013 11:29:16 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Lmo56
I love watching the British TV series Mi-5. I wish they'd be available to deal with our enemy of the people in OUR White House. Does anyone else watch this series, and what do you think of it?
29 posted on 12/06/2013 11:59:21 PM PST by itssme
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To: chessplayer

It will be a jolly good show. With all the king’s horses, and all the king’s men. A plot made for TV. Everyone will be glued to their sets.

Well, all except that one fella down in Georgia, who told them to bugger off.


30 posted on 12/07/2013 12:03:45 AM PST by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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To: chessplayer

Cue the Video of Clinton laughing it up at Ron Brown’s Funeral, until he noticed the Cameras.


31 posted on 12/07/2013 12:09:42 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (A Communist is nothing more than an honest Democrat...)
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To: blackdog

Maybe he’s interviewing for a job.


32 posted on 12/07/2013 1:05:54 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: chessplayer

Zer0 has to make sure that White Guilt is seared into the white consciousness like a hot brand. The deeper it is, the more it can be exploited.


33 posted on 12/07/2013 1:15:20 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: chessplayer
Blackness and Marxism trumps EVERYTHING!!

I LOVE the picture of SMILING Moochelle with WINNIE MANDELA, the NECKLACER!!

34 posted on 12/07/2013 1:52:03 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Clown Prince nobama and his commie clown consort should go to prison instead of SA. ALL are criminals.


35 posted on 12/07/2013 2:25:18 AM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: ogen hal

Maybe Obama has agreed to fetch drinks for the Clintons and that is his motive?


36 posted on 12/07/2013 3:30:54 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: itssme

It is a really good series with a really good theme.

The Sandbaggers which preceded it back in the 70s despite it being a bit dated is better to me. I could see the head of SIS in that series intervening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSCmoSHlTwg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbaggers


37 posted on 12/07/2013 3:51:46 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: laplata

“As you probably know, GW did a lot to combat AIDS in Africa.”

Just like Obama GW used American tax money and deficit spending to send billions to Africa when he should have been addressing his mounting deficit. GW is another socialist globalist elitist.


38 posted on 12/07/2013 3:52:53 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: itssme

Here is an episode on YT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sxmnSapWWM


39 posted on 12/07/2013 3:54:20 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Gene Eric

I expect a BIG ovation if GW speaks. Have seen video of his effect on the people in SA.


40 posted on 12/07/2013 5:36:27 AM PST by az wildkitten (8 years 'til I retire)
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To: chessplayer

Why is anybody surprised? Thatcher was just a “typical white woman”. Actually, very un-typical, but she wasn’t one of Obama’s people, so she didn’t count.


41 posted on 12/07/2013 6:07:39 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: blackdog

COMRADES OF THE WORLD UNITED IN LIVE AND DEATH

DON’T MOURN FOR MANDELA

Exclusive: Joseph Farah says man ‘wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman’
12/6/2013

by JOSEPH FARAH

Joseph Farah is founder, editor and CEO of WND and a nationally syndicated columnist with Creators News Service.. He is the author or co-author of 13 books, including his latest, “The Tea Party Manifesto,” and his classic, “Taking America Back,” now in its third edition and 14th printing. Farah is the former editor of the legendary Sacramento Union and other major-market dailies.

The whole world, pretty much, is mourning for Nelson Mandela today.

But most are not mourning for the real Mandela. They are, in fact, mourning for the myth of Mandela.
He was not Martin Luther King Jr. He was not Mahatma Gandhi. And he was certainly not George Washington, as Barack Obama claimed.

He was a committed member of the South African Communist Party. He was a leader of the revolutionary African National Congress, which he helped to radicalize into an organization sworn to armed, violent attacks.

Maybe you say: “But Farah, he was fighting against the evil of Apartheid!”

Yes, that is true. Apartheid was inarguably an evil and unjustifiable system. But so is the system Mandela’s revolution brought about – one in which anti-white racism is so strong today that a prominent genocide watchdog group has labeled the current situation a “precursor” to the deliberate, systematic elimination of the race.

In other words, the world has been sold a bill of goods about Mandela. He wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman. He wasn’t someone fighting for racial equality. He was the leader of a violent, Communist revolution that has nearly succeeded in all of its grisly horror.

But don’t believe me.

I’ve never been to South Africa – not during Apartheid and not after.

Instead, listen to Sonia Hruska. She was an early supporter of Mandela and worked in his administration.

“After about six years,” Hruska said, “I realized something serious is wrong; the communist elements are taking over, it’s not what we were promised.”

What did she see that the rest of the world missed?
“As a business owner, I can get 25 years in jail time if I do employ a white person, for instance,” she said. “It is totally ridiculous; you cannot have imagined that affirmative action could have gone so far.”

Today, in South Africa’s white population of 4 million, 1 million live in utter poverty.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Hruska describes routine, violent, racist atrocities of almost unimaginable proportions: Kidnap murders, home invasions, gang rapes.

“It’s heinous torture,” Hruska explained. “Even children as young as 2 months old get burned with hot water, get wrapped in newspaper and burned.”

In the case of one family, Hruska described a black mob breaking into a home, waiting for the white family to get home, then raping the mother in front of the father and son to see. Then, after killing the mother, they killed the father and son by plunging them into boiling water.
She said: “There is no easy way of saying exactly how these people are tortured. The standard would be a hot iron, electric iron, boiling water … and these are carried out for hours.”

You will read today many stories describing Mandela as a “political prisoner.”

In fact, he served 27 years in prison for 23 specific acts of sabotage and attempting to overthrow the government.

It was only a year ago that some of the international press began to report the truth about Mandela for the first time. Last December, the London Telegraph reported that, indeed, the records showed Mandela was not only a member of the South African Communist Party, he held a “senior rank.”

By the way, Mandela was offered his freedom while incarcerated many times. All he had to do was renounce terrorism. He wouldn’t do it.

Of course, it’s fashionable to forget about all of this today. Nelson Mandela is dead. He is being proclaimed a saint all over the world.

Nevertheless, these inconvenient truths need to be stated by someone because the Mandela mythology is as dangerous as the terror he and his followers perpetrated on so many innocent victims – white and black.


42 posted on 12/07/2013 6:22:22 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: MasterGunner01
"Can we pay South Africa to keep them?"

I'll chip in---who's holding the pot??

43 posted on 12/07/2013 7:15:02 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Bobalu
Why do so many on the left support and even worship Marxist lunatics like Mandela, Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega and others of their ilk? Have they no sense at all!?

The old Biblical admonition about the fruit not falling far from the tree applies here, I should think. It's because they themselves are Marxist lunatics.

44 posted on 12/07/2013 7:19:43 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: laplata

GW sent a lot of OUR money to combat aids in Africa.

Fixed it.


45 posted on 12/07/2013 7:35:35 AM PST by sheana
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To: sheana

Fixed it.


You didn’t fix it. Our money fixed it.


46 posted on 12/07/2013 7:57:56 AM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: chessplayer
This couple is despicable
47 posted on 12/07/2013 10:38:02 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (Dear Santa.....I can explain...)
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To: chessplayer

racists.


48 posted on 12/07/2013 10:41:32 AM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: Jemian

In honor of His Royal Highness, Barack Hussein, and Queen Michelle, “necklacing” will be the most important part of the pomp that will crown the celebration of Mandela’s funeral.

WINNIE MANDELA TO BE HUMAN SHIELD’

HTTP://WWW.WND.COM/2003/02/17348/

Nelson’s ex-wife, convicted of helping murder child, wants to protect Iraqi kids

WND 02/19/2003

Winnie Mandela, ex-wife of South Africa’s former leader Nelson Mandela – and long known for her open advocacy of torturing rivals, as well as for her 1991 conviction for being an accessory to the brutal murder of a 14-year-old boy – wants to travel to Iraq to become a “human shield” so she can protect Iraqi children from American attacks, according to the South African Press Association.

A member of parliament in the African National Congress, the controversial figure was known during the waning days of the apartheid era for her enthusiastic and public support of “necklacing” blacks suspected of “collaborating” with the white government.

“Necklacing,” typically carried out by members and supporters of the African National Congress, consisted of binding a black adversary hand and foot, draping gasoline-filled tires around legs, midriff, and neck, and setting the victim ablaze. Often, children were forced to witness their parents’ agonizing deaths.

Although she would later deny it, videotape of Mandela at a large, April 1986 outdoor rally in Soweto shows Winnie Mandela proclaiming to a large crowd: “We have no arms. But we have stones. We have our boxes of matches. We have our bottles. … With our necklaces, we will liberate this country!”

Moreover, Winnie Mandela was found to be complicit in the brutal killing of a 14-year-old boy named “Stompie” Seipei.

According to The New York Times, three survivors of the ordeal testified in court that Winnie initiated the beatings of several youths, hitting young Stompie with a stiff rawhide whip called a sjambok, and urging others to hit him. His battered body was found later, his throat cut. Jerry Richardson, one of Winnie Mandela’s bodyguards, was convicted in May 1990 of murder, attempted murder and kidnapping. According to a Newsday report, Justice Brian O’Donovan “implicitly found her to be an accomplice. … The evidence, O’Donovan pointedly told the court, had the ‘ring of truth.’”

Nelson Mandela – today revered by many in the West as a great reformer and man of peace – was in fact the head and co-founder of the ANC’s military wing, and was imprisoned for spearheading the effort to commit widespread terrorism in South Africa. Although Mandela was almost always referred to as a “political prisoner,” Amnesty International declared in 1985 that “Mandela had participated in planning acts of sabotage and inciting violence, so that he could no longer fulfill the criteria for the classification of political prisoners.”

Upon his release from prison in 1990, Mandela publicly paid tribute to Joe Slovo, leader of the South African Communist Party. “I salute the South African Communist Party for its steady contribution to the struggle for democracy,” Mandela said at the time. Later elected as the nation’s prime minister, Mandela praised Fidel Castro, Yasser Arafat and Muammar Gadhafi for their “love for human rights and liberty.” He recently ridiculed President George W. Bush publicly for his commitment to military intervention in Iraq.

Winnie, whose last name today is Madikizela-Mandela, wants other South African women to join her in going to Iraq.

In a press statement issued yesterday, an aide explained: “She wants to involve women from across all parties and interested groups, on a mother-to-mother basis. Mrs. Madikizela-Mandela believes we have the experience in South Africa of having seen our children needlessly killed.”

Saying she would defend herself next week in court against charges of theft and corruption, Madikizela-Mandela added, trying to justify her chronic absenteeism from Parliament, that it was very difficult to “share the chamber with politicians from the apartheid era who have the blood of black children on their hands.”


49 posted on 12/08/2013 6:50:08 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: chessplayer
I love it when we go on safari!


50 posted on 12/08/2013 6:53:29 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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