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The Post-Work Economy. ... Mark Steyn
NRO ^ | 6 Dec 2013 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/06/2013 11:52:37 PM PST by Rummyfan

One consequence of the botched launch of Obamacare is that it has, judging from his plummeting numbers with “Millennials,” diminished Barack Obama’s cool. It’s not merely that the website isn’t state-of-the-art but that the art it’s flailing to be state of is that of the mid-20th-century social program. The emperor has hipster garb, but underneath he’s just another Commissar Squaresville. So, health care being an irredeemable downer for the foreseeable future, this week the president pivoted (as they say) to “economic inequality,” which will be, he assures us, his principal focus for the rest of his term. And what’s his big idea for this new priority? Stand well back: He wants to increase the minimum wage!

Meanwhile, Jeff Bezos of Amazon (a non-government website) is musing about delivering his products to customers across the country (and the planet) within hours by using drones.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marksteyn; obama; obamacare; steyn

1 posted on 12/06/2013 11:52:37 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: JLS

Steyn ping.


2 posted on 12/07/2013 12:07:50 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Rummyfan

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”

—”The Gods of the Copybook Headings”, Rudyard Kipling, http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_copybook.htm


3 posted on 12/07/2013 12:14:14 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
The elites think a smart society will be wealthy enough to relieve the masses from the need to work. In reality, it would be neo-feudal, but with fatter, sicker peasants.

Steyn always seems to find one sentence that makes me want to laugh and cry simultaneously.

4 posted on 12/07/2013 2:09:14 AM PST by ri4dc (Cut your cable. Buy more ammo. 'This war is lost!' The worst is yet to come.)
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To: ri4dc

Steyn, Greenfield, Sowell, and Hanson are must-read guys. Any others I should consider?


5 posted on 12/07/2013 2:30:00 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

I read anyone that uses common sense and isn’t a flaming liberal, which is why I can’t get past two sentences of any NYT article. The last thing I read that really warmed my heart was Ted Cruez’s last speech in TX. I read just about everything that streams by on FRont Page News.

What we need, though, is a new kind of sign language that all liberals understand and can begin to comprehend the differences between actual reality and politicians who shit rainbows on their cherios.


6 posted on 12/07/2013 2:54:15 AM PST by ri4dc (Cut your cable. Buy more ammo. 'This war is lost!' The worst is yet to come.)
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To: Rummyfan

bump


7 posted on 12/07/2013 3:00:05 AM PST by gattaca ("If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain)
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To: FreedomPoster

I meant to add, Steyn lays out the truth like no other can. I depend on him to make me laugh about all this nonsense; it keeps me from crying about my kid’s future so much.


8 posted on 12/07/2013 3:02:23 AM PST by ri4dc (Cut your cable. Buy more ammo. 'This war is lost!' The worst is yet to come.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Mark Twain, new autobiography volumes I and II


9 posted on 12/07/2013 3:03:02 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Rummyfan
America’s liberal elite seem to enjoy having a domestic-servant class on hand, but, unlike the Downton Abbey crowd, are vaguely uncomfortable with having them drawn from the sturdy yokel stock of the village, and thus favor, to a degree only the Saudis can match, importing their maids and pool-boys from a permanent subordinate class of cheap foreign labor.

Oh, snap!

10 posted on 12/07/2013 3:21:02 AM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: Rummyfan

Come on Freepers! Careful reading calls for closer inspection, more thoughtful thinking, and a call to action! As the job market shrinks, we must be careful to cultivate those areas that present themselves as holding the potential for American recovery and success! Steyn is dancing all around the idea that there’s an entire wave of job opportunities being threatened here. It used to be street bums would push shopping carts around the city to collect empty bottles to bring in for the nickels and dimes. Maybe one day, they can do the same with used needles left behind by mind-numbed junkies!

Bezos and his fat cat cronies need to be stopped...and stopped now!


11 posted on 12/07/2013 3:24:41 AM PST by MarDav
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To: FreedomPoster
Walter E. Williams has the ability to reduce complex, everyday, real issues to a one page practical solution. Put him on your weekly reading list!
12 posted on 12/07/2013 5:47:35 AM PST by USMA '71 ((Re-elect no one!))
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To: Rummyfan
Drones! If there’s one thing Obama can do, it’s drones.

I figured the Death Panels would be fully armed. :)

13 posted on 12/07/2013 5:52:18 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: USMA '71

Good call, I should have had Williams in the original list.


14 posted on 12/07/2013 5:55:10 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: USMA '71
Sometimes he reduces them to a single sentence:

"In order for one person to get a thing without paying for it, another person must pay for that thing without getting it".

15 posted on 12/07/2013 6:24:02 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Ann Coulter, Mark Levin, Walter Williams, Dennis Prager, Jonah Goldberg.


16 posted on 12/07/2013 6:56:55 AM PST by Inwoodian
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To: MarDav

“It used to be street bums would push shopping carts around the city to collect empty bottles to bring in for the nickels and dimes.”
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I kinda miss those deposit bottles, I remember when someone who was hungry could spend half an hour walking the road and pick up enough bottles to buy a meal. I had an uncle who became disabled for regular work due to arthritis but for a time said that he often earned as much or more in a day by going around to houses in the country and asking if he could haul off their bottles with his pickup truck. He said that once he made eighty dollars in one day back in the sixties, that would be more like a thousand dollars now. He hauled all those bottles from a shack where the people seemed to have very low income but spent their money on a Pepsi addiction while being too sorry to take the bottles back when they went for more Pepsi. I think there was probably a banjo boy on the porch. For that kind of income I could afford to gas up my old F-150.


17 posted on 12/07/2013 10:02:55 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Rummyfan
The elites think a smart society will be wealthy enough to relieve the masses from the need to work. In reality, it would be neo-feudal, but with fatter, sicker peasants. It wouldn’t just be “economic inequality,” but a far more profound kind, and seething with resentments.

Bttt

18 posted on 12/07/2013 2:35:24 PM PST by Gritty (The emperor has hipster garb, but underneath he’s just another Commissar Squaresville - Mark Steyn)
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To: DuncanWaring

“In order for one person to get a thing without paying for it, another person must pay for that thing without getting it”.

Wow, that should be carved over the portals of Congress.

If the opposite of Pro is Con,
then the opposite of progress is...


19 posted on 12/07/2013 2:40:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Rummyfan
Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance.

Pelosi is channeling Marx here nearly word for word. Substitute "wage slavery" for health insurance and it's a match. It's all about living a life you don't have to earn.

And, if you’re wondering why every Big Government program assumes you’re a feeble child, that’s because a citizenry without “work and purpose” is ultimately incompatible with liberty.

You don't need liberty, just do as you're told. One day they'll tell you, "you have liberty" and you'll believe it.

Depressing stuff. Even the more articulate proponents of Big Government appear not to grasp just how very big that is likely to be, and what will happen to it when no one it purports to serve is capable of producing the wealth necessary to sustain it.

20 posted on 12/07/2013 2:56:42 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: ri4dc
In reality, it would be neo-feudal, but with fatter, sicker peasants.

The image that came to mind was the humans in the movie Wall-E. While many have tried to impose some bigger message into that movie, I think a real one is beware of "state-run dependency". No work means no dignity. Welfare equals inner unhappiness and it "drains too much of the life from life." It will end in a populace that is fat, drunk and lazy ... no way to go through life young man.

21 posted on 12/08/2013 5:11:36 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: TheOldLady; Rummyfan; Howlin; riley1992; Miss Marple; Dane; sinkspur; steve; kattracks; ...

Mark Steyn ping.

Freepmail me, if you want on or off the Mark Steyn ping list.

Thanks for the ping Slings and Arrows.


22 posted on 12/08/2013 7:28:03 AM PST by JLS
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To: Rummyfan
"One wouldn’t expect the governing class to be as far-sighted as visionaries like Bezos. But it’s hard to be visionary if you’re pointing in the wrong direction. Which is why the signature achievement of Obama’s “hope and change” combines 1940s British public-health theories with 1970s Soviet supermarket delivery systems."

Zing!

23 posted on 12/08/2013 7:57:58 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Rummyfan
FTA: One of the advantages of Obamacare, according to Nancy Pelosi, is that it will liberate the citizenry: “Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance.”

I've always been struck by that especially idiotic remark by SanFran Nan. Worry about health insurance isn't what keeps me from those noble ventures. Lack of talent and being firm in the knowledge that I'd starve to death keeps me from them. IOW, it isn't the insurance, it's the money.

To a commie like her, they're the same thing.

24 posted on 12/08/2013 9:14:35 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Tax-chick

Most of us don’t have Inert and Epic Fail Lawn Service. ;^)


25 posted on 12/08/2013 9:16:28 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Rummyfan

” But it’s hard to be visionary if you’re pointing in the wrong direction. Which is why the signature achievement of Obama’s “hope and change” combines 1940s British public-health theories with 1970s Soviet supermarket delivery systems. But don’t worry: Maybe one day soon, your needle-exchange clinic will be able to deliver by drone. Look out below.”

BINGO!


26 posted on 12/08/2013 11:53:59 AM PST by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: ri4dc
Steyn always seems to find one sentence that makes me want to laugh and cry simultaneously.

Steyn and Greenfield have that knack...

27 posted on 12/08/2013 12:09:07 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Rummyfan
America’s liberal elite seem to enjoy having a domestic-servant class on hand, but, unlike the Downton Abbey crowd, are vaguely uncomfortable with having them drawn from the sturdy yokel stock of the village, and thus favor, to a degree only the Saudis can match, importing their maids and pool-boys from a permanent subordinate class of cheap foreign labor. Hence the fetishization of the “undocumented,”

Steyn's amazing...

28 posted on 12/08/2013 12:13:29 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Guatemalans would do a better job.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 12:24:50 PM PST by Tax-chick (Well, that went badly.)
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To: Tax-chick

That’s because the Guatemalans send their byos out to graze in the lawn like goats....


30 posted on 12/08/2013 1:18:57 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Servant of the Cross
It will end in a populace that is fat, drunk and lazy ... no way to go through life young man.

It will also lead to a shrinking population. Only a sadist would father children into such a future.

31 posted on 12/08/2013 1:50:39 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Rummyfan; Slings and Arrows

It is hard to take someone seriously on these things after they praise Mandela to the hilt


32 posted on 12/08/2013 1:53:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: JLS
Thanks for ping - a "must read" from Steyn! It inspires me to change my tag-line...

Is it true Steyn will get in the race for Senator from New Hampshire?! That would be very incredibly excellent, if NH has the sense to send him!!

33 posted on 12/08/2013 3:51:23 PM PST by 88keys ("work and purpose"...)
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To: 88keys
Is it true Steyn will get in the race for Senator from New Hampshire?! That would be very incredibly excellent, if NH has the sense to send him!!

Steyn is a US legal resident Canadian citizen. He is thus not constitutionally eligible to be a US senator.

Though since we've been constantly told asking questions about someone's eligibility is horrible and racist, perhaps the issue is just moot.

In any case, he can always run in the sense Pat Paulsen used to always run for President.

34 posted on 12/11/2013 10:16:49 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Rummyfan

As usual, excellent article by Steyn.

He largely misses, however, the most critical point.

The primary factors driving the disappearance of jobs, possibly without replacement, are impeccably free-market and technological in nature.

Government is, as usual, making things worse, but the problem is above and beyond government. In fact, it is difficult to think of a fix for the disappearing job issue that would not involve massive government intervention in the economy.

For 200 years, technology has improved productivity, making society constantly wealthier while providing, overall and over time, better lives for the vast majority of humans. Conservatives, not unreasonably, point to this record to deride modern-day Luddites. But is also not unreasonable to consider the possibility that today’s cyber-tech if qualitatively different and that past performance many not predict future performance.

But continue the productivity curve indefinitely, and at some point infinite goods and services are produced with zero human input. At which point Steyn’s observations about the apparent human psychological need for “work” kicks in for everybody.


35 posted on 12/11/2013 10:49:14 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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