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A moment of silence for Mandela?(Vanity)
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Posted on 12/07/2013 12:29:10 AM PST by L.A.Justice

Apparently, at one sporting event in America, there was a moment of silence for Nelson Mandela...

I listened to the beginning of a volleyball game at Univ. of Nebraska...(The NCAA division one women's tournament is going on.) The game audio was streamed on the school website.

The announcer said that there was a moment of silence for Nelson Mandela...

I don't mind a moment of silence if some former US President has passed away...But, not the former president of South Africa...

I would not be too upset if there were a moment of silence for someone like Winston Churchill...But, Mandela is no Churchill...

English Premiere League clubs are going to honor Mandela this weekend...A moment of silence followed by a moment of applause...Remember, when Thatcher passed away, the Premiere League refused to require clubs to have a moment of silence...I guess "not honoring" Mandela could be considered racist...I think Thatcher deserved just as much respect as Mandela...


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KEYWORDS: mandela

1 posted on 12/07/2013 12:29:10 AM PST by L.A.Justice
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To: L.A.Justice

I guess you don’t know that Nelson Mandela was a black man? Please turn yourself in to your nearest USSA thought crime reeducation center.


2 posted on 12/07/2013 12:31:00 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: L.A.Justice

Welcome to Obama’s America.


3 posted on 12/07/2013 12:32:40 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: L.A.Justice
At “Commentary Magazine,” a RINO publication, Jonathan Tobin called Mandela one of the greatest men in history and compared him to George Washington because he gave up power voluntarily.

My memory is vague on Mandela’s rise to power, but I seem to recall that he never passed up an opportunity to align himself with Marxist Africans.

4 posted on 12/07/2013 12:50:41 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: L.A.Justice
I think Thatcher deserved just as much respect as Mandela...

More.... A billion times more.

5 posted on 12/07/2013 12:51:39 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: L.A.Justice

A moment of silence...

Great idea. All the better to hear the multiple raspberries!


6 posted on 12/07/2013 12:52:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne (May his name be striken from every tablet stone building and never be said again short of treason!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I guess you don’t know that Nelson Mandela was a black man? Please turn yourself in to your nearest USSA thought crime reeducation center.

.... Where you will recieve Martin Bashir's proscribed Thistlewood punishment.

7 posted on 12/07/2013 12:53:48 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: L.A.Justice

Oh, let the Liberals have their fun.

They are getting their collective butts kicked over ObamaCare.

2014 will be a bad year to be a liberal, so let them have their moment. Maybe we can get Celine Dion to sing for them...


8 posted on 12/07/2013 12:58:34 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: L.A.Justice

Those observing silence for Mandela should set fire to a tire and wear it as a necklace.

He directed the murderous operations of Umkhonto we Sizwe for years. And today, the Boer farmers in ANC-controlled territory are on genocide watch.

The Black Arafat gets no silence from me.


9 posted on 12/07/2013 1:04:42 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: L.A.Justice; Travis McGee; Pelham

Its beyond irritating

All I can say is 20 years in what became a very very soft prison taught him to try for pragmatic ends

And tempered what had been a taste for indiscriminate violence against innocents

He gets credit for that


10 posted on 12/07/2013 1:14:43 AM PST by wardaddy (choctaw bingo)
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To: wardaddy

“All I can say is 20 years in what became a very very soft prison taught him to try for pragmatic ends.”

It was an entire 27 years and all of that time he had a swimming pool, private quarters, a cook and all the visitors he wanted.

The Mandela apologists try to paint a narrative that he was in the little cell that Obama visited and exploited for his own political purposes.


11 posted on 12/07/2013 1:39:14 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: L.A.Justice

Turning a Marxist criminal into an international hero. Ovomit has ordered flags at half staff for this killer. Lowered US flags are for US citizens, not foreign criminals.


12 posted on 12/07/2013 2:09:14 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s even worse now. Mandela has been channeled into Obama’s psyche.


13 posted on 12/07/2013 2:25:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: L.A.Justice
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5PoweWLxzJ4/UqJJntpfKVI/AAAAAAAAb08/-2Km3ueT0OE/s640/winnie_nelson_mandela_slovo.jpg
14 posted on 12/07/2013 2:49:42 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Revelation 6:10)
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To: L.A.Justice

When did Mandela the Racist Terrorist dies ?
No One told me..... The media seem to have blanked out the news.


15 posted on 12/07/2013 3:05:15 AM PST by Christian1
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To: Christian1
Dies, should read Died. My excuse for my mistake is that English is my second language.
16 posted on 12/07/2013 3:07:36 AM PST by Christian1
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To: L.A.Justice

Flags at half-staff over the Capitol, and Washington. How nice.


17 posted on 12/07/2013 3:28:55 AM PST by KingLudd
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To: L.A.Justice

I propose a national holiday to go along with the only holiday that honors a person in the history of this once great country.
Look for an international holiday
to honor the greatest person that ever lived.


18 posted on 12/07/2013 3:39:23 AM PST by Post5203 (Please name me a sucessful city or country run by a "person of color".)
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To: L.A.Justice

Yes, let’s have a moment of silence for a communist who condemned our country, hated Israel, consorted with terrorists, and helped destroy a country. What a great idea. (snicker)


19 posted on 12/07/2013 3:48:39 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

feed a group of people baked beans and PBR and give him a 21 ass salute.


20 posted on 12/07/2013 3:58:18 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Oliviaforever

“It was an entire 27 years and all of that time he had a swimming pool, private quarters, a cook and all the visitors he wanted.”

That’s not at all true. He didn’t have any of that stuff (private quarters/chef/etc.) until he was transferred to Costner Verster prison in 1988, just about 2 years before his release.


21 posted on 12/07/2013 4:24:17 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Victor Verster prison. Not sure what happened there.


22 posted on 12/07/2013 4:24:47 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: L.A.Justice

Pro-abortion, anti-Semetic - what’s not for a Libtard to like?


23 posted on 12/07/2013 4:36:02 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Psalm 73

There will be NO monents of silence about Mandella’s death because it is about odumbo, who will not be silenced while he can make political hay, get his photo ops, etc.

“It’s about ME! ME! ME! ME!”


24 posted on 12/07/2013 5:30:35 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: DoughtyOne

I was thinking if we are quiet enough, we can hear him screaming from Hell.


25 posted on 12/07/2013 5:31:05 AM PST by mothball
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To: L.A.Justice

Maybe while I’m in the Ladies Room.


26 posted on 12/07/2013 6:08:55 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: zeestephen

DON’T MOURN FOR MANDELA

Exclusive: Joseph Farah says man ‘wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman’
12/6/2013

by JOSEPH FARAH

Joseph Farah is founder, editor and CEO of WND and a nationally syndicated columnist with Creators News Service.. He is the author or co-author of 13 books, including his latest, “The Tea Party Manifesto,” and his classic, “Taking America Back,” now in its third edition and 14th printing. Farah is the former editor of the legendary Sacramento Union and other major-market dailies.

The whole world, pretty much, is mourning for Nelson Mandela today.

But most are not mourning for the real Mandela. They are, in fact, mourning for the myth of Mandela.
He was not Martin Luther King Jr. He was not Mahatma Gandhi. And he was certainly not George Washington, as Barack Obama claimed.

He was a committed member of the South African Communist Party. He was a leader of the revolutionary African National Congress, which he helped to radicalize into an organization sworn to armed, violent attacks.

Maybe you say: “But Farah, he was fighting against the evil of Apartheid!”

Yes, that is true. Apartheid was inarguably an evil and unjustifiable system. But so is the system Mandela’s revolution brought about – one in which anti-white racism is so strong today that a prominent genocide watchdog group has labeled the current situation a “precursor” to the deliberate, systematic elimination of the race.

In other words, the world has been sold a bill of goods about Mandela. He wasn’t the saintly character portrayed by Morgan Freeman. He wasn’t someone fighting for racial equality. He was the leader of a violent, Communist revolution that has nearly succeeded in all of its grisly horror.

But don’t believe me.

I’ve never been to South Africa – not during Apartheid and not after.

Instead, listen to Sonia Hruska. She was an early supporter of Mandela and worked in his administration.

“After about six years,” Hruska said, “I realized something serious is wrong; the communist elements are taking over, it’s not what we were promised.”

What did she see that the rest of the world missed?
“As a business owner, I can get 25 years in jail time if I do employ a white person, for instance,” she said. “It is totally ridiculous; you cannot have imagined that affirmative action could have gone so far.”

Today, in South Africa’s white population of 4 million, 1 million live in utter poverty.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Hruska describes routine, violent, racist atrocities of almost unimaginable proportions: Kidnap murders, home invasions, gang rapes.

“It’s heinous torture,” Hruska explained. “Even children as young as 2 months old get burned with hot water, get wrapped in newspaper and burned.”

In the case of one family, Hruska described a black mob breaking into a home, waiting for the white family to get home, then raping the mother in front of the father and son to see. Then, after killing the mother, they killed the father and son by plunging them into boiling water.
She said: “There is no easy way of saying exactly how these people are tortured. The standard would be a hot iron, electric iron, boiling water … and these are carried out for hours.”

You will read today many stories describing Mandela as a “political prisoner.”

In fact, he served 27 years in prison for 23 specific acts of sabotage and attempting to overthrow the government.

It was only a year ago that some of the international press began to report the truth about Mandela for the first time. Last December, the London Telegraph reported that, indeed, the records showed Mandela was not only a member of the South African Communist Party, he held a “senior rank.”

By the way, Mandela was offered his freedom while incarcerated many times. All he had to do was renounce terrorism. He wouldn’t do it.

Of course, it’s fashionable to forget about all of this today. Nelson Mandela is dead. He is being proclaimed a saint all over the world.

Nevertheless, these inconvenient truths need to be stated by someone because the Mandela mythology is as dangerous as the terror he and his followers perpetrated on so many innocent victims – white and black.


27 posted on 12/07/2013 6:17:44 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: All

“Let them have their fun”?

I think not. The MSM are already publishing GOP hit pieces politicizing his death and blaming Reagan and Cheney for putting him on the terrorist watch list, but the hit pieces are filled with quotes taken out of context then the writer gives his “translation” of the intent of the quote.

And the lies by omission. Not a single negative thing to say about Mandela despite the fact he wasn’t the Saint the MSM has made him out to be.

There are two sides to the Mandela story. The MSM will only give one side and if any outlet like FNC gives an accurate and historical portrayal, the cries of “racism” will be yelled from the rooftops.


28 posted on 12/07/2013 6:20:41 AM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Close the Voter ID Loophole! ID & Background checks for all voters!")
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To: agere_contra

CAVEAT ON NELSON MANDELA

Townhall.com ^ | December 7, 2013 | Humberto Fontova

A Martian visiting earth this week, coasting TV channels and perusing papers, would have to conclude that among the items that most interest this planet’s news bureaus is the plight of former political prisoners, especially black ones.

Well, many Cubans (many of them black) suffered longer and more horrible incarceration in Castro’s KGB-designed dungeons than Nelson Mandela spent in South Africa’s (relatively) comfortable prisons, which were open to inspection by the Red Cross. Castro has never allowed a Red Cross delegation anywhere near his real prisons. Now let’s see if you recognize some of the Cuban ex-prisoners and torture-victims:

Mario Chanes (30 years), Ignacio Cuesta Valle, (29 years) Antonio López Muñoz, (28 years) in Dasio Hernández Peña (28 years) Dr. Alberto Fibla (28 years) Pastor Macurán (28 years) Roberto Martin Perez (28 years) Roberto Perdomo (28 years) Teodoro González (28 years.) Jose L.Pujals (27 years) Miguel A. Alvarez Cardentey (27 years.) Eusebio Penalver (28 years.)

No? None of these names ring a bell? And yet their suffering took place only 90 miles from U.S. shores in a locale absolutely lousy with international press bureaus and their intrepid “investigative reporters.” From CNN to NBC, from Reuters to the AP, from ABC to NPR to CBS, Castro welcomes all of these to “embed” and “report” from his fiefdom.

This fiefdom, by the way, is responsible for the jailing and torture of the most political prisoners (many black) per-capita of any regime in the modern history of the Western hemisphere, more in fact than Stalin’s at the height of the Great Terror. But the Martian would only learn that it provides free and fabulous healthcare and is subject to a “cruel” and “archaic” embargo by a superpower.
Here are some choice Mandela-isms:

“Che Guevara is an inspiration for every human being who loves freedom.”

“The cause of Communism is the greatest cause in the history of mankind!”

“There’s one place where (Fidel Castro’s) Cuba stands out head and shoulders above the rest – that is in its love for human rights and liberty!”

Here are a few items the Martian would probably never learn regarding Nelson Mandela or the Stalinist regime he adored:

South Africa’s apartheid regime was no model of liberty. But even its most violent enemies enjoyed a bona fide day in court under a judge who was not beholden to a dictator for his job (or his life.)

When Nelson Mandela was convicted of “193 counts of terrorism committed between 1961 and 1963, including the preparation, manufacture and use of explosives, including 210,000 hand grenades, 48,000 anti-personnel mines, 1,500 time devices, 144 tons of ammonium nitrate,” his trial had observers from around the free world. “The trial has been properly conducted,” wrote Anthony Sampson, correspondent for the liberal London Observer. “The judge, Mr Justice Quartus de Wet, has been scrupulously fair.” Sampson admitted this though his own sympathies veered strongly towards Mandela. (Indeed, Sampson went on to write Nelson Mandela’s authorized biography.)

In sharp contrast, when Ruby Hart Phillips, the Havana correspondent for the flamingly Castrophile New York Times, attended a mass-trial of accused Castro-regime enemies, she gaped in horror. “The defense attorney made absolutely no defense, instead he apologized to the court for defending the prisoners,” she wrote in February 1959. “The whole procedure was sickening.” The defendants were all murdered by firing squad the following dawn.

In 1961 a Castro regime prosecutor named Idelfonso Canales explained Cuba’s new system to a stupefied “defendant,” named Rivero Caro who was himself a practicing lawyer in pre-Castro Cuba. “Forget your lawyer mentality,” laughed Canales. “What you say doesn’t matter. What proof you provide doesn’t matter, even what the prosecuting attorney says doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is what the G-2 (military police) says!”

A reminder:

According to Anti-Apartheid activists a grand total of 3,000 political prisoners passed through South Africa’s Robben Island prison in roughly 30 years under the Apartheid regime, (all after trials similar to the one described above by Anthony Sampson.) Usually about a thousand were held. These were out of a South African population of 40 million. Here’s what Mandela’s “jail cell” looked like towards the end of his sentence.

“N*gger!” taunted my jailers between tortures. “recalled Castro’s prisoner Eusebio Penalver to this writer. “We pulled you down from the trees and cut off your tail!” they laughed at me. “For months I was naked in a 6 x 4 foot cell That’s 4 feet high, so you couldn’t stand. But they never succeeded in branding me as common criminal, so I felt a great freedom inside myself. I refused to commit spiritual suicide,” continued the late Mr Penalver.

According to the Human Rights group, Freedom House, a grand total of 500,000 political prisoners have passed through Castro’s various prisons and forced labor camps (many after trails like the one described by R.H Phillips above, others with none whatsoever.) At one time in 1961, some 300,000 Cubans were jailed for political offenses (in torture chambers and forced-labor camps designed by Stalin’s disciples, not like Mandela’s as seen above.) This was out of a Cuban population in 1960 of 6.4 million.

So who did the world embargo for “injustice?” and “human-rights abuses?” (Apartheid South Africa, of course) And who currently sits on the UN’s Human Rights Council? (Stalinist Cuba.)

In brief, none of the craziness Alice found after tumbling down that rabbit hole comes close to the craziness Cuba-watchers read and see almost daily.


29 posted on 12/07/2013 9:06:39 AM PST by Dqban22
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To: L.A.Justice

Visions of flaming tires placed around the necks of those who wouldn’t cow-tow to Nelson and Winnie.


30 posted on 12/07/2013 10:44:23 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Dqban22

Thanks - excellent essay by Joseph Farah.


31 posted on 12/07/2013 12:31:39 PM PST by zeestephen
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