Skip to comments.Here Are 6 Moments From Mandela's Marxist Past That You Won't Hear On CNN [link only]
Posted on 12/07/2013 10:03:59 PM PST by grundle
He seems to have seriously believed that these policies make people better off, and chose to ignore all of the real world evidence to the contrary.
No wonder the Press dent admires him so.
Surprised that such a story is up on the Huffington Post. I thought they were very lefty friendly.
So typical of leftists. Their harebrained theories always trump reality, experience, and empirical evidence, in their minds.
Oh, they are.
I wonder if HuffPo thought the title was “Six Great Moments from Mandela’s Past”. And then agreed!
“President Ronald Reagan was a staunch ally of Mandela’s apartheid captors.”
So why are they posting the truth about one of their leftist icons?
Entries from the Reagan Diary:
March 30, 1983
Pres. Kaunda of Zambia arrived. A good meeting & lunch. I think he feels good about the trip. We made clear we detest Apartheid but believe we can do better with S. Africa by persuasion
Monday, November 24
Met with Zulu Chief Buthelezi of S. Africa. I admire him greatly. I told him I was not a fan of Bishop Tutu.
Friday December 7, 1984
Bishop Tutu of S. Africa came in. Im sure he is sincere in his belief that we should turn our back on S.A. & take actions such as sanctions to bring about a change in race relations. He is naïve. Weve made considerable progress with quiet diplomacy. There are S. Africans who want an end to Apartheid & I think they understand what we are doing. American owned firms in S.A. treat their employees as they would in Am. This has meant a tremendous improvement for thousands & thousands of S.A. Blacks. There have been other improvements but there is still a long way to go. The Bishop seems unaware, even though he himself is Black, that part of the problem is tribal not racial. If apartheid ended now there still would be civil strife between the Black tribes.
December 14, 1984
Billy Graham for dinner tonight. Very interesting his experiences in the Soviet U. & S. Africa. He questions the stature of Bishop Tutu.
January 21, 1985
It seems like Monday but then yesterday seemed like Sunday. Geo. Bush reported on his day in Atlanta the various programs celebrating Martin Luther King, Jr. s birthday. Bishop TUTU of S. Africa took advantage of the day to kick me & our admin. around.
Monday, February 4
Met with So. African Chief of Zulus, Gatsha Buthelezi. Hes a very impressive man well educated & while dedicated to ending apartheid in S. Africa still is well balanced & knows it will take time. Id quoted him in my own speeches before I ever met him.
Wednesday, June 11th
Staff briefings this time with Sec. Shultz on hand. Some discussion of S. Africa & the legislation some in Cong. are cooking up to have us take extreme actions like taking Am. investment out of S.A. Sanctions etc. Of course then wed have no contact or ability to help rid them of apartheid. Besides Am. investment is only 1% of S.A. investment.
Friday, July 26
Staff meetings here in W.H. & then an NSC meeting in the old treaty room. Subject S. Africa. Weve quietly influenced the S.A. G. to a number of changes benefitting Blacks. Now our Congress yielding to demonstrations, etc. is debating legislation to impose sanctions on S.A. Govt. Were opposed. It isnt a solution to the problem of apartheid & it will hurt the very Blacks were trying to help. I think were all agreed on continuing & even stepping up our present program but resisting the other. Were off to Camp David. From there Ill call Margaret Thatcher at George Bushes house sorry we cant get together while shes here.
September 9, 1985
Saw our Ambas. off on his return to S. Africa. Then at 10: 30 I went before the press & read a statement about the exec. order I would sign listing things we were going to do with regard to Apartheid in S. Africa. Many were things included in the Cong. bill calling for sanctions. I explained these were things I would agree to but eliminated parts of the bill I did not favor & that I would veto the bill if it came to my desk. This wouldnt have been necessary if I had line item veto.
Congress eventually overrode Reagans veto of the bill to impose sanctions. After this, theres no mention again from 1986 to Reagans exit in January 1989 of South Africa or apartheid:
October 2, 1986
Todays Senate vote should not be viewed as the final chapter in Americas efforts, along with our allies, to address the plight of the people of South Africa. Instead, it underscores that America and that means all of us opposes apartheid, a malevolent and archaic system totally alien to our ideals. The debate, which culminated in todays vote, was not whether or not to oppose apartheid but, instead, how best to oppose it and how best to bring freedom to that troubled country.
I deeply regret that Congress has seen fit to override my veto of the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986. Punitive sanctions, I believe, are not the best course of action; they hurt the very people they are intended to help. My hope is that these punitive sanctions do not lead to more violence and more repression. Our administration will, nevertheless, implement the law. It must be recognized, however, that this will not solve the serious problems that plague that country. The United States must also move forward with positive measures to encourage peaceful change and advance the cause of democracy in South Africa.
Now is the time for South Africas Government to act with courage and good sense to avert a crisis. Moderate black leaders who are committed to democracy and oppose revolutionary violence are ready to work for peaceful change. They should not be kept waiting. It would be tragic to lose this opportunity to create a truly free society which respects the rights of the majority, the minority, and the individual. There is still time for orderly change and peaceful reform. South Africans of good will, black and white, should seize the moment.
Note: H.R. 4868, which passed over the Presidents veto on October 2, was assigned Public Law No. 99 440.
At Huffpo, they are saying that in admiration.
I guess someone there “gets it” occasionally or maybe they let the other side be heard once in a long while.
the lies are abundant
Make no mistake, the media is taking advantage of Mandela’s death to get one last jab in at Reagan and Thatcher.
They have good intentions, so, it doesn’t matter if they get results or not. They’re still more moral than conservatives who didn’t even try for utopia.
“It isnt a solution to the problem of apartheid & it will hurt the very Blacks were trying to help.” (Reagan)
Sadly he was right. The murders of blacks is sky high compared to what is was under apartheid. Robbery, rape, etc. is also sky high among blacks.
“Surprised that such a story is up on the Huffington Post. I thought they were very lefty friendly”........lots of unfriendly obama stuff lately....Mary Matalin’s serpenthead said barry is a disaster, I paraphrase. several others like that too. democrat running for governor of michigan says he wants to look @ the eligibility of barry.. are they all abandoning barry?
That’s the way it hit me too.
Now that makes sense.
They are - they think his Marxism is a good thing.
I saw a quote here from some lib who's been inside Barry's secure perimeter which claimed that he's got no friends. I thought that was a very interesting observation. It gives insight to why he lets down everyone who's ever trusted him, including his staunchest supporters.
I suppose that many who've befriended him have found that he doesn't reciprocate that friendship and support. In the end, he's just a callous narcissist who only finds others to be useful for as long as they're of some benefit to his ambitions. As soon as they've outlived their usefulness, he jettisons them without a single thought.
I'll bet that a lot of libs in the elite echelon have discovered this to be true.
Leftists.....determined to build their glorious utopia, even if they have to kill every human on earth to do it.
Of course, official Communist Party membership is a much different thing than being heavily influenced by Marxism and socialism, which Mandela certainly was, to the great benefit of his people
When they call him a Marxist, they mean it as a compliment.
My family is from behind the Iron Curtain and lived Apartheid.
They were not Party members and could never live as well as those that were.
Nope. I won’t click on Huffpo.
Good background; thanks!
Interesting to read the comments under the article. If those comments are any indication, it appears a very sizable percentage of HuffPost posters are out and out communist/socialists.
It still doesn’t make sense.
HuffPo, a lefty news org, tells us Mandela is a commie but that CNN, a commie news org, will not tell us that Mandela is a commie?
Huf’n’puf badmouthing a Marxist? Snowstorm in Hell?
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