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Get set for the rise of the machines (Robots, automation & tablets replacing human workers?)
The New York Post ^ | December 6, 2013 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/08/2013 2:46:54 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

After you heard President Obama’s call for a hike in the minimum wage, you probably wondered the same thing I did: Was Obama sent from the future by Skynet to prepare humanity for its ultimate dominion by robots?

But just in case the question didn’t occur to you, let me explain. On Tuesday, the day before Obama called for an increase in the minimum wage, the restaurant chain Applebee’s announced that it will install iPad-like tablets at every table. Chili’s already made this move earlier this year.

With these consoles customers will be able to order their meals and pay their checks without dealing with a waiter or waitress. Both companies insist that they won’t be changing their staffing levels, but if you’ve read any science fiction, you know that’s what the masterminds of every robot takeover say: “We’re here to help. We’re not a threat.”

But the fact is, the tablets are a threat....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: employment; minimumwage; obama; unemployment
"People don’t go into business to create jobs; they go into business to make money."
1 posted on 12/08/2013 2:46:54 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
People don’t go into business to create jobs; they go into business to make money

Excellent quote. Source?

2 posted on 12/08/2013 2:55:36 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

Later on in the article, actually.


3 posted on 12/08/2013 2:59:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you think about it, unpaid tireless automatons performing services, manufacturing and other functions needed for capitalism to succeed is about the only way a socialist utopian dream could be achieved. Leeches served by robots so that none of them would have to ever work again.

Somehow, however, it nags at me that even if this were true, the meddling liberal would still find a way to complain and blame it on those that do not think like they do.


4 posted on 12/08/2013 3:00:54 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Duh me. I saw it once I actually started reading the article. Succinct, concise and true. Like a Proverb, even.


5 posted on 12/08/2013 3:02:31 AM PST by jimmyray
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you don’t know “Where the beef went?” Ask the tablet !?


6 posted on 12/08/2013 3:08:52 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those fast food workers who want $15 an hour may find themselves unemployed. Machines won’t demand $15 an hour to do the job.


7 posted on 12/08/2013 3:09:58 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
With these consoles customers will be able to order their meals and pay their checks without dealing with a waiter or waitress.

For an establishment that serves alcohol this could be a risky move.

One of the prime responsibilities of a server is to ensure that the guest does not imbibe too much for their own good. If a customer orders their own drink from the table touch pad and all the server does is bring the drink this cuts the interactions with the guest in half or more.

8 posted on 12/08/2013 3:15:10 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: fatnotlazy
Machines won’t demand $15 an hour to do the job.

The people who maintain and service the robots will become highly valued, though.

9 posted on 12/08/2013 3:17:02 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fast food doesn’t have to have a negative connotation anymore. With our technology, a restaurant can offer gourmet quality burgers at fast food prices.

Our alpha machine replaces all of the hamburger line cooks in a restaurant.

It does everything employees can do except better:

It slices toppings like tomatoes and pickles only immediately before it places the slice onto your burger, giving you the freshest burger possible.

Our next revision will offer custom meat grinds for every single customer. Want a patty with 1/3 pork and 2/3 bison ground after you place your order? No problem.

Also, our next revision will use gourmet cooking techniques never before used in a fast food restaurant, giving the patty the perfect char but keeping in all the juices.

It’s more consistent, more sanitary, and can produce ~360 hamburgers per hour.

The labor savings allow a restaurant to spend approximately twice as much on high quality ingredients and the gourmet cooking techniques make the ingredients taste that much better.

10 posted on 12/08/2013 3:17:36 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good... these days I like people less and less.


11 posted on 12/08/2013 3:24:07 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So this is what we will end up looking like in the future?

12 posted on 12/08/2013 3:36:08 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

And when people actually expect to do things like eat, Freepers will yell GET A JOB as if it were 20 years ago or something.


13 posted on 12/08/2013 3:53:07 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Pontiac

> For an establishment that serves alcohol this could be a risky move.

Not to worry. The rich liberal Obama donor inventor entrepreneur has already thought of this with a blood alcohol sensor you have to blow in that will identify you by your saliva DNA that is linked to The Beast Citizen Database System. Humans will only be required to sterilize the mouhpieces between customers (for now).


14 posted on 12/08/2013 3:57:36 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

During the late 70s, we were told that robots would take all the manufacturing jobs. Yes, they do a lot of things, but there are limitations. The tightly packed iPads and notebooks are still very much put together by cheap manual labor.

I would say that the really big hit has already been in the office. Ever see old episodes of Dragnet, with armies of women hit the filing cabinets, or the stenographer pools with things typed and filed in triplicate in old line companies? They all diappeared, yet jobs in the buildings still exist. Unfortunately, the ability to do more has made government require more.


15 posted on 12/08/2013 4:18:31 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They won’t be changing staff levels, but they will be slowing hiring until they reach the appropriate staffing levels.


16 posted on 12/08/2013 4:51:33 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Gaffer

I’m glad I’m old enough to be almost dead


17 posted on 12/08/2013 4:57:45 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf

This just isn’t the same country in which you and I grew up.


18 posted on 12/08/2013 5:03:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: jonrick46

Which part of the burger-o-tron does the spitting?


19 posted on 12/08/2013 5:05:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Lesbian tablet stiffed on tip by homophobic diners.”


20 posted on 12/08/2013 5:15:45 AM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: T-Bird45

Exactly.

The incredible rise in productivity is the reason manufacturing is returning to the US.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 5:26:26 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some define singularity as when the machines take over the world.


22 posted on 12/08/2013 5:45:12 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
I would say that the really big hit has already been in the office.

I do a lot of genealogy research using old censuses. It is fascinating to watch the waves of popular jobs come and go through the decades.

For example, in the nineteenth century a lot of self-supporting women were seamstresses - before factory dress wear. At the beginning of the 20th, many of their daughters became stenographers, or telephone operators, or worked in factories.

The sons of many men who had been listed as laborers, became telephone linesmen and auto mechanics.

And of course the number of clerks continued to expand for both sexes.

23 posted on 12/08/2013 5:47:04 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: T-Bird45
The people who maintain and service the robots will become highly valued, though.

Yep. You have to have ambition and mechanical aptitude for it, so the new growth industry won't help the LIVs at all.

24 posted on 12/08/2013 5:55:02 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Gaffer
Sadly ... and we really can't describe the absolute freedom we had as kids ... no bike helmets ... hell ... 3 speeds didn't come around until the late 50's early sixties ... go out at 7 or 8AM Saturday, be back around 6PM .. go wash up for supper .. no questions.

35 cent a gallon gas, a case o'beer, full gas tank, 6 guys in someones rat trap car, all for about 10 bucks.

Discovered a little tipsy by officer o'friendly on a Friday night, "Where'ye goin' Jackie-boy?" (EVERYone was jackie-boy to an Irish cop in Boston)
Get in, I'll drive ye home .... and he did.


The best I can do is direct kids to Norman Rockwell

25 posted on 12/08/2013 6:03:39 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Gaffer
If you think about it, unpaid tireless automatons performing services, manufacturing and other functions needed for capitalism to succeed is about the only way a socialist utopian dream could be achieved. Leeches served by robots so that none of them would have to ever work again.

"Utopia"

"slurp...slurp...slurp."


26 posted on 12/08/2013 6:10:15 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I)
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To: Pontiac
One of the prime responsibilities of a server is to ensure that the guest does not imbibe too much for their own good. If a customer orders their own drink from the table touch pad and all the server does is bring the drink this cuts the interactions with the guest in half or more.

"Would you like some more?"


27 posted on 12/08/2013 6:13:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Machines control voting outcome too.


28 posted on 12/08/2013 6:17:12 AM PST by Old Yeller (America: Under Iranian hostage since Jan. 20, 2008.)
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To: Old Yeller

While I agree with the automation ideas, it will take thousands of engineers and builders to produce the stuff. The MAJOR drawback to the whole idea is, the U.S. has lost all those skills and assets and IMO, the equipment will come from.....you guessed it, China.


29 posted on 12/08/2013 6:43:25 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: knarf
35 cent a gallon gas...

I can vividly remember gas selling for 19.9 cents per gallon in 1962. Of course, that was during a "gas war." Normally, it was 25 cents per gallon.

30 posted on 12/08/2013 7:04:41 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: Pontiac

“Automation” means that you’ll blow into a device before you ca order another drink ... :-) ...


31 posted on 12/08/2013 8:08:17 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: BCW

Ummm ... I’ve actually been looking for a device like this for my iPad ... :-) ...


32 posted on 12/08/2013 8:09:50 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I had a conversation re: this with my nephew (an engineer, mostly conservative) not too long ago.

Because of technology will we ultimately face a future with less "jobs" than we need? Systemic unemployment.

We all are not engineers and programmers. A good chunk of the world does not have the intellect to, even, be trained to perform higher skilled jobs even if the numbers were there.

Will there be enough wealth created to pay people to do, essentially, nothing?

How is that fair to the guy who CAN and does sit and code 12 hours a day?

Or will there be unseen service orientated jobs to support these new technologies?

I do seriously wonder about this. Ofcourse, it could all be for naught and the NWO may very well herd us ll into districts like the Hunger Games and it won't even be an issue. (:

33 posted on 12/08/2013 8:16:28 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: jonrick46

Is this a real machine that exists today? If so, can you send me a link? Thank you


34 posted on 12/08/2013 8:48:50 AM PST by Cottonbay
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To: Star Traveler; UCANSEE2; jsanders2001; 2ndDivisionVet
“Automation” means that you’ll blow into a device before you ca order another drink ... :-) ...

Seriously I can see it coming to that

But using such a devise as a customer in my mind would be foolish.

Remembering that a computer never forgets anything with out extensive deliberate action by the system administrator; once you blow in that tube you have created a record of what that instrument determined that your blood alcohol level was at that time.

That record could be subpoenaed in a trial for DUI or any other cause that may come before a court action against you.

Such an automated waiter system would also require you to swipe credit card before ordering (I assume it will work very much like an automated self serve gas station) so your when you blow in the tube a blood alcohol record would be linked to your credit card. These amounts to self incrimination before the fact for public drunkenness at the very least should charges be brought against you.

I would avoid drinking at an establishment that installs such a system. I will drink at a local dive before I would use such a devise.

35 posted on 12/08/2013 8:58:44 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

I should mention a minor point here - using a credit card doesn’t actually identify the person doing the swiping.

I go out and do a lot of chores for a relative (at stores) where I swipe their card at the checkout, all the time.


36 posted on 12/08/2013 9:02:43 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
I should mention a minor point here - using a credit card doesn’t actually identify the person doing the swiping.

Absolutely true.

You could also swipe your card and have someone else blow in the tube.

But the point I make is that should you be involved in some unpleasant interaction with the law you can decline to blow in the tube as a matter of your fifth amendment rights.

But should you have been drinking at an establishment that used the devise in question that record could be subpoenaed and put in to evidence against you.

You could contest that evidence but I doubt that you would win.

37 posted on 12/08/2013 9:15:38 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Star Traveler

I would think that it would “bounce” alot when typing and selecting apps???


38 posted on 12/08/2013 1:48:24 PM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: BCW

That’s why I said I was looking (present tense) - because I’ve seen that before and that’s exactly what would happen.

I may eventually come to that, if there are no alternatives - because mainly I was wanting to use it for movies, documentaries and other video presentations - where one doesn’t touch it for long periods of time. As it is right now, I lay down, put my knees up and prop the iPad at my waist.

I manage, as it is, without that, so I’m in no big hurry.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 1:58:24 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Actually I like the idea of ordering off the menu through a tablet. Less chance of the waiter getting my order wrong. And beer taps at the table so I can serve myself! Way cool!

Also, a text message can be sent to my table when the meal is ready. That way, I can get up and get the food from the kitchen myself while it is still hot. Just tell me where to put my dirty dishes after I'm done and that will be the perfect restaurant experience.


40 posted on 12/08/2013 2:23:19 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Cottonbay

Link to Momentum Machines (automated hamburger maker manufacturer):

http://momentummachines.com/


41 posted on 12/08/2013 3:06:21 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Star Traveler

Maybe voice activation searches....kinda like texting...my kids both have iPads...I have not totally immersed myself into what they can and cannot do at the moment...I have a Google Nexus and Android Spectrum...yeah - I know....


42 posted on 12/09/2013 3:35:45 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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