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Ukraine protesters fell Lenin statue in challenge to Yanukovich
Reuters ^ | Sun Dec 8, 2013 | By Alissa de Carbonnel and Pavel Polityuk

Posted on 12/08/2013 11:50:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy

Anti-government protesters toppled a statue of Soviet state founder Vladimir Lenin in Ukraine's capital and attacked it with hammers on Sunday in a symbolic challenge to President Viktor Yanukovich and his plans for closer ties with Russia.

The gesture rejecting Moscow's historic influence over Ukraine came after opposition leaders told hundreds of thousands of demonstrators on Kiev's Independence Square to keep up pressure on Yanukovich to sack his government.

The protesters are furious that the government decided last month to ditch a landmark pact with the European Union in favour of closer economic cooperation with Moscow, Ukraine's Soviet-era overlord.

Yanukovich's sudden tack towards Russia has provoked the biggest street protests since the 2004-5 Orange Revolution, when people power forced a re-run of a fraud-tainted election and thwarted his first run for the presidency.

"Yanukovich, you are next!" chanted protesters as they took turns to hack at the prostrate - and now headless - red granite statue of Lenin, leader of the 1917 Bolshevik revolution.

Cheered by the crowd, a young woman planted an EU flag on the pedestal where the 3-1/2 metre high statue had stood since 1946. Opposition leaders denied any link to its removal.

The authorities and protesters have confronted each other for weeks, raising fears for political and economic stability in the former Soviet republic of 46 million people.

"This is a decisive moment when all Ukrainians have gathered here because they do not want to live in a country where corruption rules and where there is no justice," said Vitaly Klitschko, a world heavyweight boxing champion-turned-politician.

Ukraine's opposition accuses Yanukovich, who met Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday, of preparing to take the country into a Moscow-led customs union, which they see as an attempt to recreate the Soviet Union.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 12/08/2013 11:50:45 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

love it!


2 posted on 12/08/2013 11:51:50 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 1rudeboy

Perhaps they just misunderstand Lenin. /s


3 posted on 12/08/2013 11:52:06 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Perhaps they just misunderstand Putin. He’s anti-homo and loves his country. I heard it on FR.


4 posted on 12/08/2013 11:54:29 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

About the only thing John McCain said that I agree with, “When I looked into Putin’s eyes I saw ‘K-G-B’.”

Putin is not our friend and he is not a friend to the citizens of Ukraine.


5 posted on 12/08/2013 12:00:41 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: 1rudeboy

....Meanwhile, back in the USSA, Obama raises a monument to Lenin in Obamacare.


6 posted on 12/08/2013 12:00:59 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: 1rudeboy

What? People who don’t want to live in close proximity with Putin? I smell a rat. /s


7 posted on 12/08/2013 12:01:34 PM PST by Natufian (t)
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To: 1rudeboy

Most Ukrainians live in the NovoRossiya and Russian-speakers feel like they live in another country.

The protests have revealed the gulf between Donetsk, which wants closer ties to Moscow and Lvov, that looks to Brussels.

Two decades after both parts of the country voted for independence, Ukraine is split down the middle - and the protestors’ rejection of Russia is anathema in places like the Crimea, that are overwhelmingly ethnic Russian in composition.


8 posted on 12/08/2013 12:02:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 1rudeboy

Maybe Putin can stick to loving his own country, and stop molesting other countries (in a non-homo way, not that there’s anything wrong with that).


9 posted on 12/08/2013 12:02:41 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Half-brother is Watching You!)
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To: 1rudeboy

The connection between Ukraine and Russia goes back to the baptism of Rus’ in 988, NOT to the anti-Orthodox mass-murderer Lenin!!!!

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Baptism_of_Rus';


10 posted on 12/08/2013 12:03:39 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 1rudeboy; GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; Impy; Clintonfatigued; ...

Ukies on the Rampage!!!

MY PEOPLE!!! I love them!!! Hahah!


11 posted on 12/08/2013 12:03:45 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Honorary Serb

There is a large Ukrainian diaspora in Russia and the two peoples often intermarry. And millions of ethnic Ukrainians do speak Russian.

Those deep and close ties in the Slavic family will not be dissolved by the current protests.


12 posted on 12/08/2013 12:07:22 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 1rudeboy
The opposition may stand up to Yanukovich’s police and maybe even his military. But once they cross a certain line they will be confronted by Putin's high-tech Cossacks.
13 posted on 12/08/2013 12:07:28 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Yeah, and then Putin will be "forced" to invade and carve himself a slice in order to "protect" the Russian ethnic minority/majority.

And then some of the FR Borscht Brigade will try to convince us that W. Ukrainians are Muslim.

14 posted on 12/08/2013 12:10:39 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
IF I had a hammer.. I'd hammer in the morning..


15 posted on 12/08/2013 12:10:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: 1rudeboy
...We'll always have Fremont.


16 posted on 12/08/2013 12:14:23 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The opposition wants to cut the east off from its traditional Russian market if Ukraine joins the EU.

That is a sure recipe for continued instability. In an ideal world, Ukraine could join both of the rival trading blocs and every one would be happy.

But since the EU has vetoed it, the turmoil will go on with no real resolution to what amounts to the classic Mexican standoff.


17 posted on 12/08/2013 12:14:24 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Iexpect the Ukes know where to get weapons, however, and I wouldn’t expect a one -sided fight if it comes to that. It’s probly asking too much to expect Yano to get his head on right and treat people fairly-—bbbbuuuuttttt we have the same problem right here in river city.


18 posted on 12/08/2013 12:17:10 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: 1rudeboy

How do they even have statues of this guy still standing?


19 posted on 12/08/2013 12:17:31 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: 1rudeboy

I wish someone would do that to the Lenin statue in Seattle.


20 posted on 12/08/2013 12:17:47 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Honorary Serb
No, you mean that the connection between Ukraine and the Orthodox Church goes to 988.
21 posted on 12/08/2013 12:25:04 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Fred Hayek

Would they defend the stature with tear gas or patchouli-stink? Either way, bring a mask.


22 posted on 12/08/2013 12:25:53 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: goldstategop

Neither the EU nor Russia is a good choice for Ukraine. EU regulations would wreak havoc on many Ukrainians. Going back to Russia is bad but obviously in a different way. Ukraine would be a power house if it weren’t for the entrenchment of Soviet style laws and corruption.

Ukraine has along way to go. Unfortunately the vested interests holding power aren’t going to accede willingly.


23 posted on 12/08/2013 12:27:42 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: VanDeKoik
How do they even have statues of this guy still standing?

It's a complicated issue, and not just because it's the Soviets who were fond of "airbrushing" history.

Interesting article here, that discusses the currents and cross-currents.

Silent Sentinels at Center of Lithuanian Debate on Bygone Era [Free Republic]

24 posted on 12/08/2013 12:28:50 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

They want to join an EU that is pursuing lennins dream vs Russia who is running from it.


25 posted on 12/08/2013 12:34:39 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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26 posted on 12/08/2013 12:38:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: NFHale

My Russian grandmother and great aunt, Chernovas, grew up in Ukraine. They also hated Commies and left after the Commies came into power. They were wonderful women, could cook like nobodies business, sew, knit...........


27 posted on 12/08/2013 12:52:00 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 1rudeboy; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> “Yanukovich, you are next!” chanted protesters as they took turns to hack at the prostrate - and now headless - red granite statue of Lenin, leader of the 1917 Bolshevik revolution.

Thanks 1rudeboy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3099573/posts


28 posted on 12/08/2013 1:38:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: goldstategop

Some of the Russian-speaking Ukrainians are in my own U.S. Orthodox parish!


29 posted on 12/08/2013 1:51:48 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 1rudeboy

The EU and Lennin are the same. Wanting independence is great but the EU is worse than Russia. Who is behind these protests???


30 posted on 12/08/2013 1:53:49 PM PST by RginTN
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To: yldstrk

Yet, the Lenin statue in Seattle still stands...


31 posted on 12/08/2013 1:57:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: 1rudeboy; a fool in paradise

Let us hope it can be recycled into a statue to Saint Mandela. Got anything against recycling to lower humanity’s whatchamacallit footprint?


32 posted on 12/08/2013 2:00:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I remembered the word: “carbonated footprint”, yeah.


33 posted on 12/08/2013 2:01:34 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 1rudeboy

At the time of the Baptism of Rus’, their was NO Ukraine, ONLY Orthodox Christian Rus’!!! The area of what became Ukraine was virtually destroyed by barbarian invasions, and what survived became Russia as we know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

The “Ukrainian” identity was promoted by the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and especially by Austria-Hungary, both Roman Catholic-dominated states. The Soros-funded mainly West Ukrainian Orangies (many of whom are Catholic) yearn for a new Austrian Empire under the EU.

Ukraine is ORTHODOX, as are Russia, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria, etc. and a growing number of Americans. We shall celebrate the Orthodox patron Saint of America thus coming Friday.

Neither Soros, nor obama, nor the corrupt bureaucrats of Brussels, nor the mullahs can stop the resurgence of Christian Orthodoxy, or of Orthodox Christian culture and civilization!!!!


34 posted on 12/08/2013 2:09:09 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: 1rudeboy

The problem is these protestors can’t win an election, so they have to resort to street violence. They would lose again today.

The Ukraine may end up splitting in two. If you look at the voting map it seems all to probable.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 2:30:16 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: RginTN
The EU and Lennin are the same. Wanting independence is great but the EU is worse than Russia.

ROTFLMAO

36 posted on 12/08/2013 2:39:32 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: sunrise_sunset
The problem is these protestors can’t win an election, so they have to resort to street violence. They would lose again today.

So much for the Tea Party, then. I'm convinced . . . authoritarianism simply is the best way to accomplish anything. All hail Obamacare!

37 posted on 12/08/2013 2:41:10 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Are the Other Beatles statues still standing????

/sarcastic


38 posted on 12/08/2013 2:43:08 PM PST by GraceG
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To: 1rudeboy

There’s going to be civil war in Ukraine.


39 posted on 12/08/2013 2:46:41 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I did think it was hilarious these protestors wanted to surrender their country’s sovereignty to the EU.


40 posted on 12/08/2013 2:48:18 PM PST by RginTN
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To: GraceG
Frank Zappa monument in Vilnius.
41 posted on 12/08/2013 2:53:05 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: RginTN

Some irony there, yes. But relativism of your sort? No.


42 posted on 12/08/2013 2:53:56 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Goodbye, Lenin

(Name of a movie about the end of East Germany.)

43 posted on 12/08/2013 2:58:35 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

One of the funniest movies I’ve ever seen.


44 posted on 12/08/2013 2:59:47 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: NFHale; 1rudeboy; GOPsterinMA; GeronL; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; yldstrk
That phukkin statue should have come down a long time ago.

Beautiful sight.


45 posted on 12/08/2013 3:00:48 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy

Yep.


46 posted on 12/08/2013 3:02:20 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Publius
Agreed--a very funny money, which incidentally shows a lot about what it was like to live in East Berlin.

For a more serious take on life in a totalitarian state, The Lives of Others is highly recommended. Maybe all Americans need to see it to know what our future holds...especially if Obama is followed by another Democrat President.

47 posted on 12/08/2013 3:04:03 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

I saw that one too. It’s a sobering film.


48 posted on 12/08/2013 3:04:31 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

That should have been “a very funny movie,” of course.


49 posted on 12/08/2013 3:05:09 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: 1rudeboy
Lenin Shoots a basket.

Lenin Shoots A Basket photo LeninShootsABasket_zps6444b6c8.jpg

50 posted on 12/08/2013 3:16:24 PM PST by preacher (I am not a global warming hoax denier.)
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