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New Affordable Care US health plans will exclude top hospitals
The Financial Times ^ | 12/8/2013 | Stephanie Kirchgaessner

Posted on 12/08/2013 6:54:37 PM PST by iowamark

Americans who are buying insurance plans over online exchanges, under what is known as Obamacare, will have limited access to some of the nation’s leading hospitals, including two world-renowned cancer centres.

Amid a drive by insurers to limit costs, the majority of insurance plans being sold on the new healthcare exchanges in New York, Texas, and California, for example, will not offer patients’ access to Memorial Sloan Kettering in Manhattan or MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, two top cancer centres, or Cedars-Sinai in Los Angeles, one of the top research and teaching hospitals in the country.

Experts say the move by insurers to limit consumers’ choices and steer them away from hospitals that are considered too expensive, or even “inefficient”, reflects the new competitive landscape in the insurance industry since the passage of the Affordable Care Act, Barack Obama’s 2010 healthcare law.

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KEYWORDS: aca; healthcare; hospitals; medicalcare; medicine; obamacare; obamacarehospitals
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1 posted on 12/08/2013 6:54:37 PM PST by iowamark
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To: iowamark

And Mayo Clinic, too, I’ve heard.


2 posted on 12/08/2013 6:56:18 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: iowamark

Hospital deserts.


3 posted on 12/08/2013 6:59:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: iowamark

But, we FReepers knew this...and did our level best to warn others...three years ago.


4 posted on 12/08/2013 7:01:06 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: iowamark

bookmark.


5 posted on 12/08/2013 7:02:36 PM PST by dadfly
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To: HokieMom

Mayo’s adapting by entering into partnerships with smaller hospitals all over the world. They’ll provide access to their experts for a fee, the small hospitals get to make limited references to the Mayo name in their advertising. Whether DemoCare will reimburse for those services when ordered through a partner hospital remains to be seen.


6 posted on 12/08/2013 7:03:29 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: iowamark

Ovaporcare.


7 posted on 12/08/2013 7:03:35 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Jane Long
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8 posted on 12/08/2013 7:04:14 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: iowamark

Those hospitals are reserved for our masters.


9 posted on 12/08/2013 7:05:10 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: iowamark
Well, how else did any one think they were going to make health care affordable? If people die at 50 they've saved around 30 years of expenses.

Of course they are not going to let the “little” people go to places that are actually effective. That's just for your rulers, celebrities, and rich guys doncha know?

10 posted on 12/08/2013 7:06:05 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Steely Tom


11 posted on 12/08/2013 7:11:58 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: iowamark

Ah. Yes. Steer the once haughtier masses to the infectionary neighborhood clinics when they may be assayed and normed by the ward bosses and community organizers?


12 posted on 12/08/2013 7:12:06 PM PST by dasboot
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To: iowamark

let me guess, 1% of the bed space wont be available for ‘the common folks’

gee, never saw that coming


13 posted on 12/08/2013 7:12:30 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: greeneyes

Never was about providing healthcare...it was about controlling access...namely ours.


14 posted on 12/08/2013 7:16:41 PM PST by samsmom
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To: greeneyes

“Well, how else did any one think they were going to make health care affordable? If people die at 50 they’ve saved around 30 years of expenses.”

BINGO! And most of the health expenses do occur after age 50, so just think all the money they will save.

I remember a Star Track episode where an “evolved culture” made everyone walk into a disintegrator at age 50. Obamacare won’t do it quite that way, you just won’t get proper medical care and die, saving the government money. That is the only way Obamacare will be “affordable”.


15 posted on 12/08/2013 7:16:47 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: iowamark
...steer them away from hospitals that are considered too expensive, or even “inefficient”

Perhaps the word they are looking for is "competent." Competence is often expensive. People who are competent usually became competent in order to make more money. Top medical centers have high quality, expensive staff.

I find it fascinating that many socialists don't seem to care at all about competence. They want free medical care for all, but they never want to discuss quality of care. "That's elitist!"

I also find it fascinating that the socialists seem to assume that doctors and others working in health care will be happy to be demoted to socialist perks. Did a single doctor go ever to medical school in order to to help Democrats be elected?

16 posted on 12/08/2013 7:17:12 PM PST by TChad
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To: iowamark
$1000 a month premium
$12,000 deductible
Excluded from all decent hospitals

What's not to love?

17 posted on 12/08/2013 7:19:05 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: samsmom

I agree. Never was about our access to health care. It was also about access to our money for the government and the Insurance Companies.

The Ins. Companies will rue the day the went to bed with the DC mongrels, and it won’t be just a bad case of fleas either.


18 posted on 12/08/2013 7:21:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Steely Tom

Are there enough masters to keep these hospitals in business? Will there be enough peeps NOT on the exchanges to?


19 posted on 12/08/2013 7:30:56 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: greeneyes
The Ins. Companies will rue the day the went to bed with the DC mongrels, and it won’t be just a bad case of fleas either.

Doggie clap?

20 posted on 12/08/2013 7:37:45 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Innovative

“BINGO! And most of the health expenses do occur after age 50, so just think all the money they will save.”

This is business as usual in Great Britain.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 7:38:01 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: iowamark

Have to sign up to read the whole article - didn’t do it.


22 posted on 12/08/2013 7:41:47 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes

“The Ins. Companies will rue the day the went to bed with the DC mongrels, and it won’t be just a bad case of fleas either.”

You need to consider that it was done essentially at gunpoint - and, frankly, businesses generally don’t care that much about regulation and higher costs - but that it is fairly and equally distributed between them and their competitors. It’s all about the profit margin. What it “costs” is secondary, as long as the same number of people continue buying the product (even better if they HAVE to) - and, 3% profit on $200 is double the 3% profit on $100.


23 posted on 12/08/2013 7:44:39 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: iowamark
Your doctor has retired early because of Obamacare, but don't worry...we've found replacements.
24 posted on 12/08/2013 7:46:38 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: JPG

25 posted on 12/08/2013 7:47:46 PM PST by dfwgator
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>> Affordable Care...

Yeah, so much news about the affordability...


26 posted on 12/08/2013 7:49:53 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: iowamark
Typical ObamaCare Hospital


27 posted on 12/08/2013 7:50:51 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Marcella

‘Have to sign up to read the whole article - didn’t do it”

Go to Drudgereport.com and click on the article there, then you’ll be able to read the whole thing.


28 posted on 12/08/2013 7:50:56 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: iowamark

Not really a surprise any more, is it?


29 posted on 12/08/2013 7:51:25 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: The Antiyuppie
There was a little carrot and stick utilized - that's true.

The Insurance companies helped sink Hillary Care, but they got in bed with Obama on this one just like Chamberlain got in bed with Nazis.

Doesn't matter what extenuating circumstances there are, they will reap what has been sown.

30 posted on 12/08/2013 7:54:41 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Possibly that or worse.LOL


31 posted on 12/08/2013 7:55:44 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TChad

You nailed it Competence and Quality are two words that are not associated with Socialist economies.

A Yugo could only be built in a communist country.

I hope we don’t end up with Yugo style healthcare, but suspect we might.


32 posted on 12/08/2013 8:04:20 PM PST by crusher2013
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To: iowamark

We had to have MD Anderson Cancer Center for my husband twice. The first time was for a Melanoma on his arm and MD Anderson in Texas which was just 40 miles away in Houston, is the premier place for removing Melanomas and this was a large one. His company medical insurance paid for it but we were out personal money due to having to spend a few nights in the MD Anderson hotel connected to the hospital by an upper level walkway. It was expensive.

The first time we had to stay there, I thought I was in Saudi Arabia. We were almost the only ones dressed in American Clothes. The rest were in fancy Arabian type clothes with the draping fabric around them. That is where rich Arabs go for cancer treatment. We all got along well since cancer was why we were there. We all helped each other with loved ones in wheelchairs. Cancer is an equal opportunity disease whether you are American or Arab.

I think I would burn down the insurance company if they wouldn’t pay for that surgery. Several years later he had lymphoma and we went to an MD Anderson clinic no more than 10 miles away. By that time he was on Medicare and it paid the bill.

If they take away MD Anderson from Medicare, there will be Texans ready to burn down Medicare. This truly will be killing people, but this article isn’t concerned with Medicare, they are talking about anyone with insurance.

If insurance companies won’t pay for MD Anderson, then MD Anderson will fold and go under. That is unbelievable.


33 posted on 12/08/2013 8:06:24 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: dfwgator


34 posted on 12/08/2013 8:11:02 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Steely Tom

Congratulations, America. We now have our very own Nomenklatura.


35 posted on 12/08/2013 8:15:07 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: greeneyes
Companies will rue the day the went to bed with the DC mongrels

They'll be eliminated in 5-10 years. Single payer is the goal

36 posted on 12/08/2013 8:15:42 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: greeneyes

“Never was about our access to health care. It was also about access to our money for the government and the Insurance Companies.”

Access to the best medical care will become like access to an Ivy League education where the children of the elites are given most of the slots. There will be just enough common folk accepted to make the claim the institution is “open”.


37 posted on 12/08/2013 8:20:20 PM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: iowamark

Who can blame these facilities? The brainless leftists that wrote the law gave everyone a 90 day grace period for non-payment. They aren’t desperate enough for business to eat the costs of non-payment.


38 posted on 12/08/2013 8:25:23 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: iowamark
I have come up with a motto for Obamacare:

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori

Translation: "It is sweet and fitting to die for your country."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulce_et_decorum_est_pro_patria_mori

I think I'll use it as a tagline

39 posted on 12/08/2013 8:26:25 PM PST by TChad (Obamacare's motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori)
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To: iowamark

Yet Obama tells you the private insurance plans were somehow inadequate. What a lying scumbag.


40 posted on 12/08/2013 8:30:14 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: iowamark

41 posted on 12/08/2013 8:36:22 PM PST by TChad (Obamacare's motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori)
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To: iowamark

So if you buy an off exchange policy you can get better doctors and hospitals. Who didn’t see that coming. I wonder if the Hollywood elites will forego Cedars Sinai hospital system? Nah!


42 posted on 12/08/2013 8:36:55 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: iowamark
Next we're going to discover Obamacare excludes the best doctors too.

The middle class has been demoted to one step above medicaid status... bad care high deductibles, and limited access to quality care.

Liberal elites will have concierge doctors - they'll pay an annual fee for the best doctors, hospitals and care... It'll be like an expensive private club. Liberal elites won't have to deal with pesky members of the middle class in the waiting rooms anymore. Their kids are safe too. And politicians? They'll have ‘pull’ to get in to the best doctors and hospitals too.

43 posted on 12/08/2013 8:38:53 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: iowamark

Related:

Thanks, Obama! University must destroy health plans to stay compliant

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3099724/posts

“The Affordable Care Act levels an excise tax on high-value health coverage plans, and UM would have to pay $48 million with its existing plans. Instead, the university is lowering the quality of its coverage. “


44 posted on 12/08/2013 8:44:36 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: iowamark

The Elite want to “Keep” their high quality health care......


45 posted on 12/08/2013 9:55:33 PM PST by GraceG
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To: iowamark

The more this goes on, the more easier it is to believe Obamacare was just a grab for more power, with healthcare as the smokescreen.

Either that or dear leader is even more of a dope than I took him for.


46 posted on 12/09/2013 2:56:35 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: iowamark
Silly peasants! REAL health care is for your Owners in Washington - Barry, Nancy, John, Mitch & Harry, and all their other Capitol Hill pals.
47 posted on 12/09/2013 5:08:15 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Steely Tom
Those hospitals are reserved for our masters.

And Betters...

48 posted on 12/09/2013 5:09:13 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: samsmom
Never was about providing healthcare...it was about controlling access...namely ours.

Hey, Sarah Palin is a dimwitted bimbo who don't know nuttin' 'bout no "death panels"...

49 posted on 12/09/2013 5:10:49 AM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: iowamark

Someone please let me know if you hear about Scott and White and MD Anderson in Texas...


50 posted on 12/09/2013 6:14:06 AM PST by Mamzelle
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