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Odds of Alien Life 'Very High,' House Panel Hears
Breitbart News ^ | 12/05/2013 | Breitbart News

Posted on 12/08/2013 8:32:23 PM PST by Carbonsteel

The likelihood of life on other planets is "very high," a planetary scientist told a House committee in a hearing some Democrats chided as evading U.S. issues.

"The chance that there's a planet like Earth out there with life on it is very high," Massachusetts Institute of Technology planetary science and physics Professor Sara Seager told the House Science Committee.

"The question is: Is there life near here, in our neighborhood of stars? We think the chances are good," she said, answering a question from Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas, who asked: "Do you think there's life out there, and are they studying us? And what do they think about New York City?"

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Aliens...what a load of bunk.

If aliens do exist and that's a big if, I seriously doubt they are visiting the Earth or giving people an anal probe.

Seriously though, I really don't think we'll find evidence of alien life any time soon.

1 posted on 12/08/2013 8:32:23 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel
And what do they think about New York City?

That's why these Congesscritters get paid the big bucks.

2 posted on 12/08/2013 8:34:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Carbonsteel
"Is there life near here, in our neighborhood of stars?"

A moronic statement. There is no such thing as "near" when we are talking about any star other than our own.
3 posted on 12/08/2013 8:36:52 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Carbonsteel
Seriously though, I really don't think we'll find evidence of alien life any time soon.

Especially since there is none.

4 posted on 12/08/2013 8:37:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Carbonsteel
"Aliens...what a load of bunk."

"Life" is not necessarily the same as "aliens." Life could take the form of very primitive, microscopic organisms.
5 posted on 12/08/2013 8:39:12 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Carbonsteel

6 posted on 12/08/2013 8:41:12 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Carbonsteel

7 posted on 12/08/2013 8:42:38 PM PST by xp38
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To: Carbonsteel


8 posted on 12/08/2013 8:44:31 PM PST by Bobalu (White Boy Think A Lot)
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To: Carbonsteel

I think that there certainly is, was or will be - but the problem is the:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

I, personally, believe that the fundamental problem is that only predators develop significant intelligence, because they really NEED it. This may be fundamental to life itself, regardless of it’s form, DNA, chemical basis, and so on. You can see evidence of this on our own planet - why have all the great civilizations developed between 30 and 50 degrees of the equator? Because those people faced more adversity. Neanderthals were likely to have been more physically capable than we are. Where are they now?

For predators such as ourselves, many have estimated that the time between developing radio to blowing the he** out of your planet may be as short as 100-500 years, which is, of course, the blink of any eye in cosmological terms.

An inkling of this theory can be found in the Bible itself, in the Adam and Eve story...”biting the apple” has it’s costs...


9 posted on 12/08/2013 8:47:53 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: dfwgator
Especially since there is none.

Source please?

10 posted on 12/08/2013 8:48:04 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Carbonsteel

To assume there is more intelligent life out there sets a very low bar.


11 posted on 12/08/2013 8:48:48 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: null and void

Where’s your proof there is?


12 posted on 12/08/2013 8:49:11 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: JPG

Why would you do that to a perfectly good movie?


13 posted on 12/08/2013 8:49:20 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: dfwgator

Genesis.


14 posted on 12/08/2013 8:50:21 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

I didn’t see any proof of life on other planets in Genesis.


15 posted on 12/08/2013 8:51:31 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Carbonsteel
Seriously though, I really don't think we'll find evidence of alien life any time soon.

You are right.
Also, the distances for visiting are too great.
"Out there" has the exact same elements that are here on earth. The periodic chart works for all existence. The only changes to those elements would be heat, cold and rather large explosions.
Probably all that would be found would be, at best, some bacteria--or old records of Ethel Merman singing: "There's NO business like SHOW business." :o)

Even if we somehow had enough fuel, our lifetimes are too short to get there. Even stasis sleep wouldn't be viable.
The astronauts wouldn't get back to earth for a thousand light years.
Their gardens would sure need watering, wouldn't they?

16 posted on 12/08/2013 8:54:31 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: dfwgator

That Genesis song about illegal aliens...


17 posted on 12/08/2013 8:56:42 PM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: Carbonsteel
"The question is: Is there life near here, in our neighborhood of stars?"

This kind of language annoys me, i.e., "our neighborhood of stars." Any astronomy expert, correct me if I'm wrong, but the nearest star group is Alpha Centauri, about 4.24 light years away. A light year represents about 5.87 trillion miles, so - apart from our own sun - our nearest star "neighbors" are at least 23 trillion miles away.
18 posted on 12/08/2013 8:57:01 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Carbonsteel
It's a big leap to go from life on other planets (which seems extraordinarily likely) to alien civilizations. Let's assume just for the sake of argument that there are a million technological civilizations in the universe right now. Why, they must be practically bumping into one another, right?

Not so much...there are roughly 100 billion galaxies out there (give or take), With a million civilizations, that would would be one for every 100,000 galaxies, which is roughly the size of the Virgo Supercluster of galaxies of which our own Milky Way is a member. That would mean that the nearest civilization is, on average, 50 million light years away.

Good luck getting an answer when the exchange of greetings alone will take 100 million years...

Seriously though, I really don't think we'll find evidence of alien life any time soon.

Now on that you just might be wrong. The next generation of supertelescopes should be able to resolve the spectrographs of the atmospheres of Earth-sized exoplanets. If free oxygen is found in significant amounts, it's an indication (an indirect one, granted) of life, since free oxygen is highly reactive and can only remain in the atmosphere of a planet over geologic periods of time by being renewed, presumably by some sort of plant life.

19 posted on 12/08/2013 8:57:04 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: deadrock
That Genesis song about illegal aliens...

Or "Watcher of the Skies."

20 posted on 12/08/2013 8:57:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Carbonsteel

Please congress, try and get a handle on what’s happening here on earth first! Not even earth, just the US.


21 posted on 12/08/2013 8:58:37 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Steve_Seattle

It’s a great big universe
And we’re all really puny

We’re just tiny little specks
About the size of Mickey Rooney


22 posted on 12/08/2013 8:59:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
I didn't see any proof that there were inhabitants of the western hemisphere, or for that matter that there even is a western hemisphere.

You of course would simply REFUSE to see any proof of life elsewhere, even if that means ignoring the Biblical fact that living beings came here from elsewhere, found the daughters of men attractive and sired children with them.

23 posted on 12/08/2013 8:59:55 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Any astronomy expert, correct me if I'm wrong, but the nearest star group is Alpha Centauri, about 4.24 light years away. A light year represents about 5.87 trillion miles, so - apart from our own sun - our nearest star "neighbors" are at least 23 trillion miles away.

Quite so. Most people who think we're being visited by aliens either don't understand the distances involved or, if they do, simply handwave away speed of light problem. "They must have invented warp drive".

Suuuuuure they have.

24 posted on 12/08/2013 9:00:23 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Carbonsteel

“And what do they think about New York City?”
They probably think there’s no life on Earth.


25 posted on 12/08/2013 9:01:07 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: dfwgator

Excellent!


26 posted on 12/08/2013 9:02:14 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Carbonsteel

For M.I.T. to even lift the lid of possibility this much probably means they already know something far more profound about the existance of life as we know it elsewhere in our solar system. For now, the truth has to be spoonfed to most the public.


27 posted on 12/08/2013 9:02:55 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Kip Russell
"Quite so. Most people who think we're being visited by aliens either don't understand the distances involved or, if they do, simply handwave away speed of light problem."

That is why UFO expert Jacques Vallee, who believed that there is persuasive evidence of "alien" encounters, concluded that these are not from "spaceships" from other planets, but from some kind of interdimensional or occult phenomena, perhaps what some would call "daemonic" entities.
28 posted on 12/08/2013 9:04:46 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Carbonsteel

Why in the universe would there be a congressional committee hearing on this?


29 posted on 12/08/2013 9:07:18 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: depressed in 06
To assume there is more intelligent life out there sets a very low bar.

"We will see about that."


30 posted on 12/08/2013 9:10:58 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: xp38; mikrofon; martin_fierro
Odds of Alien Life 'Very High' . . .


31 posted on 12/08/2013 9:11:38 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Very odd, too.)
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To: cloudmountain
The astronauts wouldn't get back to earth for a thousand light years.

A light year is ~9.5 x 1015 meters. It's a measure of distance, not time.

32 posted on 12/08/2013 9:17:20 PM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
Right on. I am convinced that life will evolve on water based planets. We are lucky here being on a spiral Nebula away from much of the galaxy turmoil.

What about liquid methane, or ?

Life evolves eating other life, so what happened to the dinosaur predators? Not enough time?

33 posted on 12/08/2013 9:17:21 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Carbonsteel
Rep. Ralph Hall, R-Texas

He's a little long in the tooth, but Ralph Hall is a solid conservative. He used to be my congressman.

34 posted on 12/08/2013 9:19:23 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Seriously though, I really don't think we'll find evidence of alien life any time soon.

You are right. Also, the distances for visiting are too great.

Our first priority has to be dealing with remains of past civilization in our own system, we can worry about the stars later.

35 posted on 12/08/2013 9:19:52 PM PST by varmintman
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That is why UFO expert Jacques Vallee, who believed that there is persuasive evidence of "alien" encounters, concluded that these are not from "spaceships" from other planets, but from some kind of interdimensional or occult phenomena, perhaps what some would call "daemonic" entities.

To quote Douglas Adams..."The prevailing view seemed to be that his opinion was not worth a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys".

36 posted on 12/08/2013 9:22:18 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: The Antiyuppie
Neanderthals were likely to have been more physically capable than we are. Where are they now?

Modern humans (Cro Magnons) killed them all. This is what a Neanderthal actually looked like:


( www.themandus.org )

37 posted on 12/08/2013 9:23:37 PM PST by varmintman
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To: FredZarguna

Oh yeah? Well Han Solo did the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs so there! :)


38 posted on 12/08/2013 9:26:04 PM PST by xp38
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To: ifinnegan
Why in the universe would there be a congressional committee hearing on this?

$$

39 posted on 12/08/2013 9:28:42 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Carbonsteel
Aliens...what a load of bunk.


40 posted on 12/08/2013 9:28:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Carbonsteel

The only aliens dems care about are those who vote for them, ruling out their interest in any intelligent life.


41 posted on 12/08/2013 9:32:32 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: varmintman
Modern humans (Cro Magnons) killed them all. This is what a Neanderthal actually looked like:

Sorry, not so much. Here's a modern reconstruction:


42 posted on 12/08/2013 9:32:44 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: dfwgator
there is none.

There are more galaxies in the known universe than all the grains of sand on earth. Each one containing billions of stars, most of which have planetary systems. The numbers involved are literally unfathomable.

The sheer numerical odds overwhelmingly favor life elsewhere in the universe.

43 posted on 12/08/2013 9:33:22 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kip Russell
Meet Duma Deputy Nikolai Valuev...

(He's the one to the left of the Bigfoot hunters and young witness.)

44 posted on 12/08/2013 9:36:22 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Kip Russell
"To quote Douglas Adams..."The prevailing view seemed to be that his opinion was not worth a pair of fetid dingo's kidneys"."

We just have a disagreement about the evidence. Since I think that there is overwhelming evidence for the existence of occult phenomena, and you apparently do not, we will probably just have to agree to disagree. With reference to UFOs and aliens, I think people do have these experiences, some have no apparent mundane explanation, and since I am skeptical of the "flying saucers from other planets" explanation, I am forced to another explanation.

I am sure you have thoughts and dreams, as do I, but we cannot prove either to one another. They are subjective and non-demonstrable, but that does not mean they are not real.
45 posted on 12/08/2013 9:40:16 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Windflier
The sheer numerical odds overwhelmingly favor life elsewhere in the universe.

I'm reminded of the book, "Rare Earth", which argues that simple unicellular life is very likely quite common throughout the universe, but complex life...not so much.

46 posted on 12/08/2013 9:41:37 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Carbonsteel

you don’t think you’ll find evidence of alien life anytime soon?

have you checked the White House lately?


47 posted on 12/08/2013 9:41:41 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: faithhopecharity

I guess “intelligent” life isn’t a prerequisite then?


48 posted on 12/08/2013 9:44:43 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: eclecticEel

$$. How so?


49 posted on 12/08/2013 9:50:16 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Carbonsteel

as long as there is an intelligent, Satanic TelePrompter programmer behind the scenes, no intelligence is required for what alien life is visible, no


50 posted on 12/08/2013 9:50:29 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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