Skip to comments.'Apartheid remains' in US, Jackson says
Posted on 12/08/2013 8:35:11 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Rev. Jesse Jackson said Sunday apartheid still exists in the United States as he reflected on Nelson Mandelas effect on American politics.
Apartheid remains. Apartheid gaps in poverty, healthcare and education. Were in the middle of the end of the apartheid struggle now, but its just changed phases, he said on NBC Newss Meet the Press.
For almost 30 years, we had a lead jump on the right to vote and used that right to vote to empower allies in South Africa, Jackson said.
Jackson is expected to attend the Dec. 15 funeral for the former South African president, who died late Thursday in Johannesburg at 95.
President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama are going to attend the national memorial service for Mandela on Tuesday in South Africa. Former President George W. Bush and his wife Laura have reportedly accepted an invitation to accompany the Obamas on Air Force One.
Former Pres. Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are also expected to attend memorial events.
Rev. Al Sharpton said on "Meet the Press" people are trying to sugarcoat the U.S.'s initial indifference to Mandelas efforts and the African National Congress. Many communist countries embraced them, he said.
This country did not, and fought that. I think that for us now to sugarcoat that is a betrayal of history. We chose sides, we chose the wrong side, Sharpton said.
Once the U.S. did back Mandela, Sharpton said that set the stage for Mandela to evolve."
From what I can see from my limited perch, Detroit, Philly, Chicago, etc. have self inflicted apartheid.
The term ‘willfully ignorant’ comes to mind n
Re7ard.... to the extreme. And his son’s a scumbag fraud
Jesse isn’t ignorant, it’s just that he knows there are millions out there that are, and he can make money off of them.
Race pimps like Jackson will say anything to make a buck. Come on Jackson, you’ve had a pretty good life here in America and have never worked a day in your life.
It can NEVER be over for these people
Otherwise they would not have a job.
How oppressed is Oprah, Barack Obama and all those millionaire athletes out there??
“Otherwise they would not have a job.”
I should say otherwise they would not generate money.
“Help, Help...I’m being repressed! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That’s what I’m on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn’t you?”
I think Chokwe Lumumba, Mayor of Jackson, Mississippi, would be quite surprised by THAT remark! ;)
Jesse’s got a net worth of ten million. Not bad for a perpetually aggrieved, unemployed grifter & race-baiter.
Kind of like a bargain basement Castro or Mandela.
'Apartheid remains' in Jackson head because that is the only way he can make money
He 's one of the professional racial baiters, and only earns money when there is racial disharmony
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant;
it's just that they know so much that just isn't so." ~Ronald Reagan
Racism is Jessie’s bidness, and bidness is good.
There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.
I am afraid that there is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.
My experience is that people who call themselves “The Intellectuals” understand theories, but they do not understand things. I have long been convinced that, if these men could have gone into the South and taken up and become interested in some practical work which would have brought them in touch with people and things, the whole world would have looked very different to them. Bad as conditions might have seemed at first, when they saw that actual progress was being made, they would have taken a more hopeful view of the situation.
-Booker T. Washington
Jackson’s lack of gratitude toward his white benefactors is another reason Reagan was wrong to sign into law MLK Day.
Hey, if we’ve got apartheid in the US, the only sensible thing for the world’s more-perfect countries to do is to boycott our goods. Oh wait, we don’t have any...
Never heard of him; please give a line or two of explanation. Sounds like something only MS could latch onto. Is he backed by Thad Cochran?
Look his name up-he was inaugurated in July 2013...he’s on Twitter as well!
I wish George and Laura would stay home - you know how volatile those large gatherings can get and the top level Muslim and wife will be there along with the other US top level socialists with them. I mean, see, for sure, really, totally, you know, I wouldn’t want anything to happen to them - I just wish George and Laura would stay home in Texas.
Jackson, you are a filthy scoundrel, a liar, and a traitor.
notsosharpton is an idiot...albeit a mouthy one.
Any wonder his son is a mental case?
Jesse is a fascist, a closet Hitler. What he really is saying is that he is better than anyone else and must be treated special. He loves Apartheid, or at least his imagination of it.
Hitler was friends with people of other races like arabs or Japanese because they hailed from a similar sense of racist superiority.
Jesse Jackson is not fooling me on this.
I was born in South Africa, and lived there for 35 years of my life, including the time of apartheid, through the transition and after. The documentation is liberal revisionist history at worst, or incomplete at best.
... I have been seeing you comment almost every Mandela thread trying to demonize white South Africa, ...
Just to be clear, I am no champion or supporter of apartheid, and worked to help change it. I was not on board with what was agreed to in the end, but almost everyone there agreed that things could not continue as it was, hence the change. The ANC and Mandela had almost zero influence, and South Africa could have continued with apartheid for many more years without any major problems. Sanctions were hurting only those it was supposed to help, and military intervention was not an option.
So specifically which rights were denied to blacks under apartheid? I would think these were the most important.
1. They couldnt own land or lived where they wanted outside of their tribal homelands.
2. They couldnt vote outside of their tribal homelands.
3. They could not participate in the national government, only their own.
4. They could not use the same facilities as whites.
The idea was to help tribes gain independence in countries located in their traditional and historic tribal areas , not unlike Native American reservations (just bigger), and not unlike the kingdoms of Lesotho and Swaziland. Economic Development Corporations were set up, some investments made, but that was where it mostly stopped. Even with big infusions of capital the tribal lands were and stayed poor, and the people did not want to live there, as the better infrastructure and jobs were around the major cities.
Some rights they did have:
1. The right to free medical care, anywhere in the country, in hospitals set up for them, and staffed by white and black doctors and nurses.
2. The right to free education, through school and college, in facilities built for them, and again staffed by white and black.
3. The right to work anywhere.
4. Homes were built and utilities provided in some cases, but the demand was really high, and the government could not keep up.
Was it right that they were kept separate? No, but to say they were denied all rights is total nonsense.
Now do yourself a favor and go and research the mfecane, which explains what the thinking process was behind keeping the warring tribes apart. Now extrapolate that to the time 1990 to present, and see what has been going on. It explains a lot of the violence.
Furthermore, in all the years of apartheid, around 30,000 political prisoners passed through the prisons, where the vast majority were treated like any other prisoners. Yes, regrettably there were some tortured and killed. The total amount of dead at the hand of the South African authorities was just under 600. If the white government wanted to viciously suppress, kill opponents and deny rights, they sure stunk at it, and I can promise you it was not due to lack of ability.
Now, if you want to know more personal stories, I can tell you how my uncle lost our family farm (in our family for more than 100 years, bought legally from the British) under apartheid so that it could be given, free of charge, to the Ndebele people. At the time he was operating a successful fruit juice factory, providing employment, housing and schooling to more than 200 Ndebele, and free medical care, since he was also a medical doctor. After he left, it all went to ruin.
How about the black police officers, soldiers and security guards that stood in the trenches with the white government to fight the ANC? They were subject to the same abuses and oppression that you and Newt are talking about, yet they saw fit to rather defend that oppressive system as opposed to submit to the communist ANC. And for good reason, the non-ANC supporters were, and are, being murdered and intimidated in large numbers.
I freely admit that my opinion is biased because I lived through it, personally. I saw it from the inside, from both perspectives, before and after apartheid. Before 1990 I served in the military. I was an officer, required to study the complete history of the ANC, and had access to all the intelligence that was shared with us, also from the US government.
After 1994 I worked with some high ranking ANC officials (including their chief of intelligence, who sadly died in a car accident later. Even though he had risen to the equivalent of the rank of colonel in the KGB, and we were on opposite ideological ends, he was a gentleman who I respected) on a local project. I heard what their perspective during the negotiations were, and saw their motives and modus operandi first hand. I understand why they did what they did. I disagree with how they went about it. Moderate black leaders, like the Zulu chief minister Mangosuthu Buthelezi, had much more of an influence on the decision to end apartheid.
You are welcome to believe what you want... But I do implore you to look for the rest of the story, and not just rely on what liberal scholars propagate. There is a lot more to it.
This pos needs to be sharing a cell with Jr.
That's not true. When he was younger, he had a job in a restaurant spitting in white people's food.
race whore demon from hell... reverend to satan
In Jesse’s view, we must be rounding up those of color and exterminating them.
Anybody notice that?
And just WHY IS THAT, Mr. Jackson?
Is it the refusal of the left to let the black community merge with traditional American culture?
You know if they did, the left would lose a huge chunk of their political power.