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Protest Planned Against Last-Minute Bloomberg Push for Mandatory Flu Vaccines
Politicker.com ^ | December 9, 2013 | Colin Campbell and Jill Colvin

Posted on 12/10/2013 12:05:48 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Autism advocates are set to protest tomorrow against a quiet effort by Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s administration to require annual flu vaccinations for all New York City schoolchildren.

On Wednesday, with just three weeks to go until he leaves office, Mr. Bloomberg’s controversial Board of Health is set to vote on new rules that would force children as young as six months old to be immunized each year before December 31 if they attend licensed day care or pre-school programs.

“Young children have a high risk of developing severe complications from influenza. One-third of children under five in New York City do not receive an annual influenza vaccination, even though the vaccine safely and effectively protects them against influenza illness,” the Health Department said in a statement. “This mandate will help protect the health of young children, while reducing the spread of influenza in New York City.”

The Board’s members are all mayoral appointees and controversial initiatives–from smoking bans to regulations on soda cup sizes–have historically sailed through with little opposition, angering a small, but vocal group of advocates who claim the vaccinations are potentially dangerous.

“The Bloomberg administration is wildly exaggerating the benefit of the flu shot and we think they are wildly underestimating the risks involved with it,” said John Gilmore, the executive director of the Autism Action Network, speaking more broadly than the controversial claim that links vaccines to autism.

“There are risks associated with every medical procedure,” he said, citing allergic reactions, toxic mercury used as a preservative and questions as to whether the Board’s move is legal given state government jurisdictions.

Mr. Gilmore’s organization is helping organize tomorrow’s protest. And though he doesn’t expect the Board’s vote to go his way, he hopes the rally will get Mayor-elect Bill de Blasio’s attention, potentially opening the door for a reversal once he takes office in January.

“This is basically to put the mayor-elect [on alert], make him aware that this is an issue that he’s going to have to deal with it. It’s not going to go away,” said Mr. Gilmore said, criticizing the way the Bloomberg administration has pushed the rules through. “He is kind of doing this in a stealth fashion. He just proposed this about 6 weeks ago. I don’t think there was any announcement.”

According to a Board of Health notice made public in September, influenza results in 20,000 hospitalizations and 30 to 150 deaths in children under 5 nation-wide each year.

Under the proposed rule, which had a public hearing in October, the vaccinations would be required “unless the vaccine may be detrimental to the child’s health, as certified by a physician licensed to practice medicine in this state, or the parent, parents, or guardian of a child hold genuine and sincere religious beliefs which are contrary to the practices herein required.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: New York
KEYWORDS: autism; bloomberg; bloomingidiot; bloominidiotberg; bloomturd; bullystate; children; education; governmentschools; health; immunity; influenza; mercury; michaelbloomberg; nannystate; nyc; vaccines

1 posted on 12/10/2013 12:05:49 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 12/10/2013 12:06:37 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bloomberg really is a sick, sick man. I am convinced he needs extensive professional help. He seems to have no life, other than laying awake in bed all night, obsessing about how to micromanage the lives of others.


3 posted on 12/10/2013 12:08:07 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The most pernicious effect of the flu vaccine, or vaccinations of any type, is weakening the immunity against other opportunistic infections. Colds can be every bit as devastating as influenza, and they are easy to contract when the immunity is weakened.


4 posted on 12/10/2013 12:13:29 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (If you liked the website, you'll LOVE the healthcare!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Where’s the keep your needles out of my body crowd?


5 posted on 12/10/2013 12:14:20 PM PST by edcoil (System now set up not to allow some to win but for no one to lose!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What they don’t tell you is that the last three years consecutively, the vaccine available has turned out to be the wrong strain to be effective in reducing illness rates.

IOW, they guessed wrong, and those forced to be inoculated had the wrong juice injected.


6 posted on 12/10/2013 12:15:54 PM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
if they attend licensed day care or pre-school programs.
If all children are required to have their shots up-to-date to get into school, what's wrong with requiring pre-school kids?
7 posted on 12/10/2013 12:16:26 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: edcoil
Where’s the keep your needles out of my body crowd?

Right here.

8 posted on 12/10/2013 12:21:05 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (If you liked the website, you'll LOVE the healthcare!)
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To: oh8eleven

It depends. If these are taxpayer-funded programs, then that might make sense, due to the concept of herd immunity. If the government is running the show, it can set the requirements.

On the other hand, if this edict includes private schools and day care programs, then once again, the Bloomberg administration is meddling into people’s private affairs.


9 posted on 12/10/2013 12:22:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Don W
the last three years consecutively, the vaccine available has turned out to be the wrong strain
I don't recall hearing that. Got a link or two?
BTW, do you understand the process where medical people determine what flu strain(s) is going to be the most prevalent to generate the vaccine?
10 posted on 12/10/2013 12:25:48 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If these are taxpayer-funded programs ...
LOL ... this is in NYC - everything is taxpayer funded.
11 posted on 12/10/2013 12:27:43 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
BTW, do you understand the process where medical people determine what flu strain(s) is going to be the most prevalent to generate the vaccine?

I see you're not keeping up to date.

In fact, when the US government couldn't push the entire batch of flu vaccine they ordered produced, they then quietly ordered that vaccine provided the next year, instead of the usual process.

12 posted on 12/10/2013 12:45:41 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Link please.


13 posted on 12/10/2013 12:49:14 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
On the other hand, if this edict includes private schools and day care programs, then once again, the Bloomberg administration is meddling into people’s private affairs.

I spent 12 years in Catholic school in NYC and was required to have the same vaccines as the kids who went to public school. I graduated HS in 1978.

14 posted on 12/10/2013 12:51:39 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is a serious need in the U.S. for politicians to be forced to return to only presiding over parades and kissing babies. People like Bloomingidiot are self-identfying as being gods (small g intentional).


15 posted on 12/10/2013 1:15:56 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: oh8eleven

This year you had your choice of the trivalent or quadrivalent vaccines, both A & B subtypes.


16 posted on 12/10/2013 1:20:47 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Turn in your guns and take your injections!


17 posted on 12/10/2013 1:23:08 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: Don W

“What they don’t tell you is that the last three years consecutively, the vaccine available has turned out to be the wrong strain to be effective in reducing illness rates.

IOW, they guessed wrong, and those forced to be inoculated had the wrong juice injected.”

How convenient for the Tamiflu manufacturer.


18 posted on 12/10/2013 1:32:29 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“new rules that would force children as young as six months old to be immunized each year before December 31 if they attend licensed day care or pre-school programs.”

So, wouldn’t this just be the perfect excuse for home-schoolers to avoid sending their children to government education camps? Real passive-aggression here. Gee, they won’t LET me send my kids to school because I don’t want to get them vaccinated. I tried to send them to school, but THEY sent them back. Oh, well. Guess I’ll be forced to educate them myself since the government refuses to do it for me.


19 posted on 12/10/2013 4:07:42 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Does anyone know if these vaccines contain thiomersal?


20 posted on 12/10/2013 5:12:46 PM PST by Sweating_Bullets (I have never prayed so hard ......)
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To: catnipman

Hey Cat! I agree with your point, but I am afraid that they will use the fact that you refuse to vaccinate your kids as an excuse to take them away from you. It’s for the children ‘ya know!


21 posted on 12/10/2013 5:12:46 PM PST by Sweating_Bullets (I have never prayed so hard ......)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yep, I will join you. I don’t care for force.


22 posted on 12/10/2013 5:22:13 PM PST by dforest
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To: oh8eleven

http://flu.ca/will-the-2013-2014-flu-season-be-worse-than-last-year/?wpmp_switcher=mobile

http://americancountrymd.com/flu-vaccines-fail-the-eldery/

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/96913.php

https://healthmasters.com/blog/truth-about-flu-shots-do-work

You asked, so there are a few. I work in a large hospital, and this information floats around, with little in the way of documentation available.

Yes, I am aware of how researchers get together and have a group guessing session.


23 posted on 12/10/2013 5:38:57 PM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Bloomberg really is a sick, sick man. I am convinced he needs extensive professional help.

I tend to think he needs to just be put out of his misery, but giving up on anyone prematurely would be the last thing I'd ever want to do. Here's what I propose: give him extensive treatment with aggressive psychotropic drugs and daily electroshock therapy, then after you've given that protocol a while to work, say five years, if he hasn't improved, only THEN put him out of his misery.

24 posted on 12/10/2013 7:27:43 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


25 posted on 12/10/2013 7:52:57 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Don W
the last three years consecutively, the vaccine available has turned out to be the wrong strain
One of your links is 5 years old. Another is a "doctor" selling his books and miracle foods stuffs from his blog (quack, quack).
A third link is also to another "doctor" with a blog (quack, quack), while a fourth exclaims the vaccine (year to year) gives less than a 100% coverage ... a known fact for decades.
Your "proof" is as bogus as the "doctors" you cited. And based on your other comments, I can only hope you work somewhere in the hospital basement, far removed from the patients.
26 posted on 12/11/2013 5:45:05 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Navy Patriot
In fact, when the US government couldn't push the entire batch of flu vaccine they ordered produced, they then quietly ordered that vaccine provided the next year, instead of the usual process.
Trying to "keep up to date" - still waiting for the link to your assertion.
27 posted on 12/12/2013 6:25:56 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I keep saying it, this is the direction of things. Nobody setting public policy really gives a damn (from a policy standpoint) if some kids get permanent disabilities or other side effects. It's about public health. They really worry that a terrible contagious disease will spread, and masses of sick people would be expensive.

This is health care in the future. No individualization. What's good for the masses is what you get, by subtle coercion or if that doesn't work, force.

28 posted on 12/12/2013 6:33:58 AM PST by grania
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To: oh8eleven
Trying to "keep up to date" - still waiting for the link to your assertion.

You can keep up to date sooner by doing research yourself, try here: 2011 Vaccine

29 posted on 12/12/2013 9:30:50 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot
You can keep up to date sooner by doing research yourself
Is that right? You make stupid, moronic comments and then I'm supposed to validate them? Upyourz squidly.
30 posted on 12/12/2013 10:09:04 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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