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Why Sarah Palin should have just let it go with Martin Bashir (Heavy-duty Dem-mentia)
The Daily Caller ^ | December 9, 2013 | Paul Goldman, Former VA Democratic Chairman

Posted on 12/10/2013 12:37:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Whoops, there it is: Sarah Palin’s fear of enslavement to the Chinese may actually be true. “Don’t wish for something, you just might get it” is a paraphrase of the often-cited Chinese proverb. The former GOP vice presidential nominee had called on MSNBC to cancel Martin Bashir’s talk show. Bashir was, at the time, serving as the conscience of the network, striking fear into those who defied political correctness.

Not since King George has a Brit been so brash. Leaving aside Piers what’s-his-name, perhaps.

To no one’s surprise, a few weeks ago. Marty found something Ms. Palin said to be idiotic. Like that is new? This is the reason Roger Ailes at Fox News decided not to renew her contract, a polite way to say, to quote a great line from the movie “Moneyball,” that “she lacked confidence” at her position as political commentator. Even the Foxy conservatives had long grown tired of Palin’s woe is me conservative victimization routine.

But Marty, trying to earn his bones, as Tony Soprano might have said, couldn’t resist. Had MSNBC not left him twisting in the wind but instead at least done an Ailes-light thing — suspend him, censure him, make him kiss the right behind in Times Square after waiting an hour for a crowd to gather – Mr. Bashir would be in the same place, with a daily television talk show and no real audience. But they refused. He then apologized, hoping this would stem the political bleeding. But an apology without punishment is just spin, a pound of flesh needs to be taken, so to speak.

Since I and many others had called for him to be fired, his resigning is de facto the same thing....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia; United Kingdom
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What the heck?
1 posted on 12/10/2013 12:37:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leave it to a ‘Rat to think that warning of debt servitude to China is dangerous to the ‘Rat Party.


2 posted on 12/10/2013 12:39:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Socialism is slavery to the State.


3 posted on 12/10/2013 12:42:10 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dems’ mantra? Conservatives should just shut up.

Thus, this clown argues both —

1. Palin rightly lost her gig at FOX NEWS (i.e., she should shut up); AND

2. Palin shouldn’t have responded to Bashir (i.e., she should shut up).

If only conservatives would shut up, Democrats could enjoy the diverse political discourse they claim to prize.


4 posted on 12/10/2013 12:43:10 PM PST by pogo101
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism the American people will adopt every fragment of the socialist program.

There are many ways in which our government has invaded the precincts of private citizens, method of earning a living; our government is in business to the extent of owning more than 19,000 businesses covering 47 different lines of activity. This amounts to a fifth of the total industrial capacity of the United States.

But at the moment I would like to talk about another way because this threat is with us, and at the moment, is more imminent.

One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine.

It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project, most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it.

Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. We had an example of this. Under the Truman administration it was proposed that we have a compulsory health insurance program for all people in the United States, and, of course, the American people unhesitatingly rejected this.

So with the American people on record as not wanting socialized medicine...

Now , Congressman Ferrand, brought the program out on that idea out , on just for that particular group of people. But Congressman Ferrand was subscribing to this foot-in-the door philosophy, because he said, “If we can only break through and get our foot inside the door, then we can expand the program after that...

Now in our country under our free-enterprise system we have seen medicine reach the greatest heights that it has in any country in the world. Today, the relationship between patient and doctor in this country is something to be envied any place. The privacy, the care that is given to a person, the right to chose a doctor, the right to go from one doctor to the other.

But let’s also look from the other side. The freedom the doctor uses. A doctor would be reluctant to say this. Well, like you, I am only a patient, so I can say it in his behalf. The doctor begins to lose freedoms, it’s like telling a lie. One leads to another. First you decide the doctor can have so many patients. They are equally divided among the various doctors by the government, but then the doctors are equally divided geographically, so a doctor decides he wants to practice in one town and the government has to say to him he can’t live in that town, they already have enough doctors. You have to go some place else. And from here it is only a short step to dictating where he will go.

This is a freedom that I wonder if any of us has a right to take from any human being. I know how I’d feel if you my fellow citizens, decided that to be an actor I had to be a government employee and work in a national theater. Take it into your own occupation or that of your husband. All of us can see what happens once you establish the precedent that the government can determine a man’s working place and his working methods, determine his employment. From here it’s a short step to all the rest of socialism, to determining his pay and pretty soon your son won’t decide when he’s in school where he will go or what he will do for a living. He will wait for the government to tell him where he will go to work and what he will do....


Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine (1961)


5 posted on 12/10/2013 12:45:03 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...if she had been wearing a burka, I wouldn’t have raped her.

So you see - it’s really her fault....


6 posted on 12/10/2013 12:48:14 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: pogo101

The Democrat War On Women continues. Smack ‘er down again, Pa, smack ‘er down again.

Make sure they stay in their place, dumb, dependent on big government, and voting Democrat.


7 posted on 12/10/2013 12:48:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author is an idiot.


8 posted on 12/10/2013 12:49:50 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She did. She let it go. The most gracious act of letting something go I ever have seen. If I was Todd, I would have found Bashir and strangled his gay Marxist neck.


9 posted on 12/10/2013 12:51:36 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Reagan was very much like our Founding Fathers in his ability to see the consequences, well into the future, of poorly thought out decisions by some Americans. I am without doubt that he would be horrified at the state of this country today.


10 posted on 12/10/2013 12:53:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did Palin herself suggest that Bashir’s show be cancelled?


11 posted on 12/10/2013 12:53:23 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After reading a small portion of Comrade Goldman’s screed, as a Canadian who knows little of American law, is marijuana and LSD now legal in Virginia?


12 posted on 12/10/2013 12:53:59 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mr. Bashir would be in the same place, with a daily television talk show and no real audience.

The only sanity in an insane editorial.

Plus, what gave him the right to characterize the Palin/Fox departure?

As long as Palin speaks, everyone listens; including the MSM.

Perhaps the MSM is being marginalized, themselves; finally.

13 posted on 12/10/2013 12:56:06 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She really didn’t respond to it. She just said, I’m used to it.


14 posted on 12/10/2013 12:56:08 PM PST by marron
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Apparently, and Mr. Goldman seems to have availed himself to both at the same time, in mass quantities.


15 posted on 12/10/2013 12:58:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From his comments one must conclude that Paul Goldman is an evil man. Stupid, hateful, misogynist asshole. Am I missing anything?


16 posted on 12/10/2013 12:59:54 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Socialism is Communism by the drink.” - P. J. O’Rourke


17 posted on 12/10/2013 1:01:46 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Why Sarah Palin is here to stay
18 posted on 12/10/2013 1:02:05 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paul Goldman attempts to claim that if Martin Bashir had to lose his job for insulting Sarah Palin, any conservative TV commentator that insults a left-wing personality/politician will have to lose their job in the name of (all together now) equality.

Goldman contends that if Mrs. Palin had simply 'let it go' - not publicly taken offense at Bashire commenting that someone should defaecate in her mouth - Bashir wouldn't have had to 'resign' and conservatives would not have to explain why they should not resign if they insult a leftist politician.

Convoluted and absurd attempt to say that conservatives deserve to be insulted in the most vile manner and they should just take it. The arrogance and stupidity of the left never fails to simultaneously annoy and amuse.

19 posted on 12/10/2013 1:02:13 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bitter self absorption.


20 posted on 12/10/2013 1:03:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Jim Scott

Exactly. Countless lefties, responding to the controversy over Bashir’s remarks, protest that “Oh, Rush and other conservatives have said equally bad or worse things all the time?” Really? Like what? (If they had, I’d probably support a job action against them, too. Some things are beyond the pale.)


21 posted on 12/10/2013 1:05:55 PM PST by pogo101
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
a Canadian who knows little of American law

Has to pay a fine at U.S. Customs in Toronto, iirc.

U.S. Customs officials who found dope in Cancucks passing though U.S. Customs and Immigration in Toronto's Lester B. Pearson Field (with no requirement to repeat the process in the U.S.) would allow the offender to pay a fine on the spot, and be allowed to proceed. U.S. Customs officers would escort them to the ATM, which caused a fuss when when it was reported in the Globe and Mail. So the next time I went through U.S. customs in Toronto, there was a large Mountie with a German Sheppard (Alsatian) on a leash. Message: dump your dope before passing through U.S. customs.

22 posted on 12/10/2013 1:08:42 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
"After reading a small portion of Comrade Goldman’s screed, as a Canadian who knows little of American law, is marijuana and LSD now legal in Virginia?"

No, but McAuliffe hasn't even taken office yet....give him a while.

23 posted on 12/10/2013 1:09:57 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Steve_Seattle
Did Palin herself suggest that Bashir’s show be cancelled?

I can't say with 100 percent certainty, but from the interviews I saw I didn't hear her call for any such thing. This libturd just proves that Palin lives rent free in their heads 27-7!

24 posted on 12/10/2013 1:17:13 PM PST by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boy, the Dems REALLY are afraid of Palin.


25 posted on 12/10/2013 1:17:45 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: pogo101

I watched Palin on The Factor with Max Headroom. She was very intelligent. Ted Baxter kept trying to get her to say that Bashir should be fired, and he even asked her “if you were his boss, would you fire him?” She responded that if she was his boss, that sort of hostile environment to conservatives would not have happened.

Then the Bloviator went on to say both sides, conservatives and liberals are the same, and that talk radio, owned by conservatives is vile, just as bad as the liberals.

If it wasn’t for Palin being on his show, I wouldn’t have watched it. That guy is becoming more and more of a d*ck as the years go on.

Go away O’Reilly, you are now part of the Georgetown Cocktail Scene.

BTW, I’m lookin out for you Bill. You are past your expiration date. And, I’m lookin out for “the folks”, which you no longer relate to.


26 posted on 12/10/2013 1:19:07 PM PST by esoxmagnum (Turtles don't win fights, they just turtle up. Victory belongs to the aggressor, not the turtle.)
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To: Fledermaus

She’s possibly the best populist since Huey Long or Billy Sunday, and they know just how powerful that can be. Notice that Obama/Biden and the DNC/media went after her, not McStain, after she was introduced? And they haven’t let up since that day.


27 posted on 12/10/2013 1:22:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("Of the 4 wars in my lifetime none came about because the US was too strong." Reagan)
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To: esoxmagnum

BOR[E] is not a conservative. He is a populist who enjoys needling lefties more often than righties. I watch YouTube’s of the Miller Time segments for Dennis Miller’s wit, but otherwise BOR lost me ages ago with his idiotic populist statements such as that “everyone knows that” oil companies manipulate the retail price of gasoline.


28 posted on 12/10/2013 1:22:18 PM PST by pogo101
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Former VA Democratic Chairman.. that say’s it all.


29 posted on 12/10/2013 1:32:08 PM PST by maddog55
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stupid ass Dem..Sarah DID let it go..in fact she never even asked for Bashir to be fired..and she accepted his fake ass apology too..leave it to Dems to always have outrage when someone on their side is attacked, but when a Conservative woman is told to have poop put inside their mouth not a peep


30 posted on 12/10/2013 1:35:40 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Steve_Seattle

Not only did Sarah not ask for Bashir to be fired, she accepted his phony apology too


31 posted on 12/10/2013 1:36:13 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; CatherineofAragon

Thanks for the info. My comment was in reference to Goldman’s statement. It came across to me, as the ramblings of someone tripping out on something!


32 posted on 12/10/2013 1:37:38 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I don’t recall that either. But gosh, would the Former Chairman, Democratic Party of Virginia lie?


33 posted on 12/10/2013 1:38:37 PM PST by DManA
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Yes, I understood that.


34 posted on 12/10/2013 1:43:06 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This didn’t go as long as it did because Sarah Palin said anything about it. This went as long as it did because MSNBC let it go as long as it did and a lot of people, not just Palin fans, thought Bashir was unacceptably crass. And, um, he was.


35 posted on 12/10/2013 1:44:49 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: pogo101

Yeah, I like Miller, but won’t sit through BOR usually to see him. You have to endure too much of Max Headroom.

I didn’t know I could find them on YouTube, I’ll look for them, and thank you for the tip.

I am really liking Gutfeld (sic?) and the Kelly Files lately though. The Five and Redeye are interesting to me. Gretta? Well, somedays she’s ok, other days, not so good (as long as there are no missing white girls, she’s pretty good).

Oh, and I like Cavuto as well. Mainly for his guests.

But BOR, man, he irks me to death. Ever since he fabricated crap about FR and ranted about us.

That’s when I knew he jumped the shark.

Well, plus his perpetual bloviating about how the TEA party is ruining any chance of the GOP winning anything, and his slobbering love affair with McCain, or any so called “moderate”, who has been in a “Gang of 8, 12, 10, or whatever”.


36 posted on 12/10/2013 1:45:26 PM PST by esoxmagnum (Turtles don't win fights, they just turtle up. Victory belongs to the aggressor, not the turtle.)
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To: be-baw
From his comments one must conclude that Paul Goldman is an evil man. Stupid, hateful, misogynist asshole. Am I missing anything?

No, I'd say that about covers it.

37 posted on 12/10/2013 1:50:41 PM PST by JusPasenThru (Posting here = IRS audit.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

38 posted on 12/10/2013 1:59:07 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: a fool in paradise

Reagan Speaks out on
Socialized Medicine 1961

39 posted on 12/10/2013 2:03:37 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: pogo101
“everyone knows that” oil companies manipulate the retail price of gasoline.

Not old enough to remember price wars are you?

40 posted on 12/10/2013 2:09:04 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huh?
Palin didn’t say anything about the matter for a week after the public on-air insult.

She never said a word until Bashir apologized.
Then she made a rather gracious comment and did ‘let it go’.

It’s the left that won’t let it go. Ever.


41 posted on 12/10/2013 2:09:46 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am no Sarah fan. Most of you know that. But in all of the interviews on this I saw her accept his apology and say we need to move on.

Not sure what this guy is talking about.


42 posted on 12/10/2013 2:12:59 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The sort of thing that an online GOPe rag would publish.


43 posted on 12/10/2013 2:19:39 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

first off, she did let what he said go.


44 posted on 12/10/2013 2:22:44 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone asked HER to comment on Bashir. She said quite graciously that “I need to forgive him and move on”.

The Left has a problem with that apparently.


45 posted on 12/10/2013 2:23:56 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: itsahoot

On many separate occasions, Congressional committees have conducted hearings investigating (witch-hunting) into alleged gasoline price fixing. Every single one came up empty, even though the politicians driving the hearings desperately wanted to find such price-fixing. If BOR and others want to conclude nonetheless that :everyone knows” that price fixing is going on, evidence be damned, then that is their liberal-mindset problem.


46 posted on 12/10/2013 2:30:57 PM PST by pogo101
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To: pogo101

PAUL, I think the dump should have been directed in your mouth


47 posted on 12/10/2013 3:16:29 PM PST by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Huh? AFAIK, Palin herself never said anything but basically that she’s used to being attacked. So what exactly was she supposed to let go?!

Leftism is a mental illness...


48 posted on 12/10/2013 3:17:16 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Jim Scott

Bashir was, at the time, serving as the conscience of the network, striking fear into those who defied political correctness.

So, he was an enforcer of political correctness.
Got it. A kapo, a goon, a verbal thug, yep.


49 posted on 12/10/2013 3:23:33 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: pogo101
On many separate occasions, Congressional committees have conducted hearings investigating

They can't seem to find any problem with crooked congress members either, who could have foreseen that?

Do you remember Price Wars, or was that before your time?

50 posted on 12/10/2013 3:58:08 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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