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[Live Thread] House Energy & Commerce Cmte.: Sec. Sebelius on ACA
http://www.c-spanvideo.org ^ | December 11, 2013 | C-Span

Posted on 12/11/2013 6:55:22 AM PST by Whenifhow

Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius testifies on the implementation of the Healthcare.gov before the House Energy & Commerce Committee. Share your comments on Facebook and Twitter using #cspanchat. Witnesses:

The Honorable Kathleen Sebelius

Secretary U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Witness Testimony (Truth in Testimony)

- See more at: http://energycommerce.house.gov/hearing/ppaca-implementation-failures-whats-next#sthash.oFFqPmd3.dpuf


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: frontpagenews; livesebeliushearing; obama; obamacare; obamacarehearing; sebelius; sebeliushearing
Alternative viewing

http://energycommerce.house.gov/hearing/ppaca-implementation-failures-whats-next

1 posted on 12/11/2013 6:55:22 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: don-o

Alternative viewing

http://energycommerce.house.gov/hearing/ppaca-implementation-failures-whats-next


2 posted on 12/11/2013 6:55:38 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Dog and Pony show. Act II


3 posted on 12/11/2013 6:59:42 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Whenifhow

They’re going to ask her about the number of times she met, or rather, didn’t meet, with Zero....She’s under oath..


4 posted on 12/11/2013 7:14:42 AM PST by ken5050 (I still miss Howlin)
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To: Whenifhow

http://www.c-span.org/flvPop.aspx?src=cspan2&msg=You+are+watching+the+C-SPAN+Networks&start=3.333&end=-1


5 posted on 12/11/2013 7:20:02 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Whenifhow; Admin Moderator

Can we get “Live Thread” added to header?


6 posted on 12/11/2013 7:21:00 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Yes, please - add “live Thread” to header


7 posted on 12/11/2013 7:23:19 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: don-o

Dem Pollone says the November numbers are impressive! Dems are trying their best to whistle past the grave!


8 posted on 12/11/2013 7:31:14 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

This is on C-span2 - the streaming feed on the web has a lot of pauses/skips in video and audio.


9 posted on 12/11/2013 7:37:52 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Has anyone taken a selfie yet?


10 posted on 12/11/2013 7:40:20 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: unixfox

I’m too busy sorting my sock drawer to watch ole Hatchet Head


11 posted on 12/11/2013 7:40:22 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bigbob

Waxman blams all the bad news about O’care on Republican politics!


12 posted on 12/11/2013 7:43:43 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I actually cannot listen to much of this.


13 posted on 12/11/2013 7:48:54 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Try this link
http://energycommerce.house.gov/hearing/ppaca-implementation-failures-whats-next

I saw it was on tv earlier this morning


14 posted on 12/11/2013 7:49:19 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Red_Devil 232

Dingell blams everything that is bad on scare tactics on the other side of the aisle!


15 posted on 12/11/2013 7:50:27 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: don-o

Waxman was telling about people who have new Obamacare plans with NO deductible.

Where are these success stories in the news? Anyone seen anything like this?


16 posted on 12/11/2013 7:51:39 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

I have it on TV because of problems with C-span’s web feed!


17 posted on 12/11/2013 7:54:15 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Whenifhow

He has got to be lying.


18 posted on 12/11/2013 7:55:43 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; don-o

Burgess says Sebelius did not respond to previous questions.


19 posted on 12/11/2013 8:06:03 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
Waxman was telling about people who have new Obamacare plans with NO deductible. Where are these success stories in the news? Anyone seen anything like this?
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Waxman is confused or lying. The only people not paying deductibles are those on medicaid/medicaid expansion.

"...on Monday, the Wall Street Journal reported that under Obamacare "the average individual deductible for what is called a bronze plan on the exchange — the lowest-priced coverage — is $5,081 a year.")"

Euphoria of Obamacare becomes nightmare of higher premiums and deductibles

20 posted on 12/11/2013 8:06:40 AM PST by thouworm
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To: Whenifhow

So why are policies so different in price among the states - isn’t Obamacare supposed to be “nationalizing” centralizing health care?

That is why are the states different in terms of cost? as Sebelius mentioned


21 posted on 12/11/2013 8:14:39 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

So why are policies so different in price among the states - isn’t Obamacare supposed to be “nationalizing” centralizing health care?

That is why are the states different in terms of cost? as Sebelius mentioned
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Curious reporters are still exposing all of the Obamacare lies,

Your question has yet to be answered, and I have been looking.


22 posted on 12/11/2013 8:19:54 AM PST by thouworm
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yep, Wax Man nose what he’s talking about.


23 posted on 12/11/2013 8:21:05 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: thouworm

Rep (Dr) Ed Whitfield, R-KY -—

“Many healthcare experts today say we are going quickly to a two-healthcare system-—one healthcare system for wealthy Americans and everyone else will be under Obamacare. That is exactly what has happened in every other country that has gone down this path.”


24 posted on 12/11/2013 8:29:05 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Sebelius said, “It is illegal for a company to sell me a policy in the private market because I am over 65.”

I didn’t know that.


25 posted on 12/11/2013 8:34:31 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Now she says that Medicaid enrollees are now re-enrolling.

Wouldn’t the same be true of medicare?

And if she is on medicare ? that’s not what she said in the last hearing - she said she was on the federal benefits plan.


26 posted on 12/11/2013 8:40:54 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Now she says that Medicaid enrollees are now re-enrolling.

Wouldn’t the same be true of medicare?

And if she is on medicare ? that’s not what she said in the last hearing - she said she was on the federal benefits plan.
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“Medicaid enrollees are now re-enrolling.”

??? Why, I wonder? There was no announcement about that. Are they re-entolling because they think they must?
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“And if she is on medicare ?”

Rep Green, D-TX said he and his wife are over 65 and enrolling on the website for Congress. Is it that members of Congress and Fed officials are excluded from Medicare if they are on the Fed plan? Sebelius did say that it was illegal for any “private” insurer to insure her.

Now I am curious about this topic.
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27 posted on 12/11/2013 8:53:42 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

It is not true! I am on my wife’s employer’s police and it pays first then Medicare would pick up the rest and in my case the VA is supposed to pay anything left over after both of these pay first.

Sebelius can go out buy any damn plan she wants!


28 posted on 12/11/2013 8:56:37 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Now they a imposing a 2 min. limit on the last seven questioners! Not fare!


29 posted on 12/11/2013 9:04:41 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

hmmm...Thanks for info.

Would it be the same if your wife (as primary policy holder) was over 65? You BOTH would be on your wife’s employer policy? IOW, Employees over 65 can be on employer policies.

That raises 2 other questions. When you turned 65, did you have to sign up for medicare or was that automatic through the employer policy?

Second question: I wonder if private insurers cannot sell an INDIVIDUAL policy to anyone over 65?


30 posted on 12/11/2013 9:05:26 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

In VA medicaid people have to decide if they want their asset (home) or medicaid?


31 posted on 12/11/2013 9:10:43 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

I just recently saw some threads about that. How disgusting! Learning more than I ever wanted to, but we all must. The future of our country depends on abolishing Obamacare.


32 posted on 12/11/2013 9:17:00 AM PST by thouworm
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To: Whenifhow

sorry...meant to include one link:

Medicaid Estate Recovery (Free Obamacare ain’t free!)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3083975/posts


33 posted on 12/11/2013 9:18:22 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Thanks for the link.
Here are two “field hearings” which are very interesting. In one of them a doctor does mention how certain people were helped by the ACA, but most of the testimony is about negative impact of the ACA.

Field Hearing in North Carolina on ObamaCare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtzR1i-5VNI

Field Hearing in Georgia on ObamaCare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV3miWzK_w


34 posted on 12/11/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Sebelius just answered a question from Griffith: You don’t think the plan you have is skimpy, do you?

“But as you know the new Marketplace plan has some age-rating that the Fed Employee Health Benefit program did not.”
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I am watching delayed. Now I see it was Griffith who discussed the medicaid rule that you mentioned. Once again, Sebelius was non-responsive.


35 posted on 12/11/2013 9:25:18 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

You do not have to sign up for Medicare when you turn 65 but there is a $ cost if you sign up later. Sign up is not automatic you must make that decision. If you have the money you can buy any individual policy you want. And last - Employees over 65 can be on their employer’s policy.

My wife works for Wal-Mart and she called their corporate insurance office and this is (above) the info they gave her. If she loses her insurance and I had not signed up for Medicare at 65, then I decided to sign up when we lost the insurance we have, then I have a time period(?) in which to sign up for Medicare without a $ increase in cost.


36 posted on 12/11/2013 9:29:16 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

RD: I appreciate the info, Thank you so very much.


37 posted on 12/11/2013 9:33:16 AM PST by thouworm
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Hearing over and Sebelius was as slippery and evasive and non-responsive as she always is. She is trained well.

Congressmen need to be better prepared, ask better questions, and pin her down with followups until she is responsive to the question.

But that would be rude, wouldn’t it.


38 posted on 12/11/2013 9:39:18 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

Yes, they think it would be so ungentlemanly or unladylike to actually ask a demanding question and badger her to answer. Oh and the Rino Republican in charge would have pounded his gavel until the questioner stopped demanding an answer.


39 posted on 12/11/2013 10:00:20 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; Whenifhow

OT

Fox news (Happening Now): Arul Grover (physician) talked about Obamacare and doctor shortages. Affects rural and inner-cities now, and everyone later.

Said 10,000 people per day will reach 65-—for the next 20 years. US is experiencing record number of applications to medical schools. Problem is that “we may not have enough residency training programs.”

Reason for that:

“Since the Balanced Budget ACT of 1997, Congress limited Medicare’s ability to support its share of the cost of training at teaching hospitals....We are at financial constraint capacity, not from a technical standpoint...but because it is a financially costly proposition to train all of those physicians.”


40 posted on 12/11/2013 10:23:01 AM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm

3:49 Minutes
Judge Nap – Could gut Obamacare if enough states do this.
South Carolina lawmakers fast track bill that would nullify Obamacare in that state

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewuI8LLlcuc


41 posted on 12/11/2013 11:09:07 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: thouworm

Today’s hearing on you tube:
2 hours 19 minutes
PPACA Implementation Failures: What’s Next?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmoXLJwnGjs


42 posted on 12/11/2013 11:25:44 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
"And if she is on medicare ? that’s not what she said in the last hearing - she said she was on the federal benefits plan."

She turned 65 in May, so maybe that explains it.

43 posted on 12/11/2013 11:25:50 AM PST by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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To: Whenifhow
Waxman was telling about people who have new Obamacare plans with NO deductible.

This made me think. WHen a low income uninsured person finds out that they will get subsidized health insurance through healthcaregov.com, are they allowed to sign up for the gold/platinum plan? If it's going to be subsidized, why not order the cadillac instead of the yugo?

44 posted on 12/11/2013 11:26:51 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Whenifhow

A precious hopeful sign. Why aren’t other states doing this? SC started back in April.

A bill set for fast-track passage in the South Carolina Senate in January aims to eliminate Obamacare in the state. The law could become a model for other states fed up with the federal health-care law.

House Bill 3101, titled the “South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act,” passed the state House of Representatives last April by a 65-34 vote. The bill now heads to the GOP-controlled Senate with special-order priority, setting up the likelihood that South Carolina will become the first state to exempt citizens and businesses from all participation in the Affordable Care Act.

Same article -— 2 dif threads
South Carolina voting on bill to end Obamacare in state
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3100428/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3099903/posts


45 posted on 12/11/2013 11:29:41 AM PST by thouworm
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