Skip to comments.Inside the Power of the N.R.A.
Posted on 12/12/2013 1:32:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
To get to Joe Manchins private office in the Hart Senate Office Building, you first pass through a lobby where you encounter a small bronze statue of an Old West lawman holding a firearm an award given to Manchin several years ago by a chapter of the National Rifle Association for his unswerving defense of gun rights. Then you turn down a hallway, past several framed photographs of children who were victims of the massacre a year ago at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. The combination of the bronze rifleman in the lobby and the young faces on the wall suggests a particular viewpoint I stand with gun lovers; I stand with victims of gun violence that qualifies, in Washington anyway, as being nuanced, which is to say politically ill advised if not suicidal.
Even sitting behind his stately wooden desk in a suit and tie, Manchin, who is 66, possesses the craggy appearance of a small-town sheriff. As he proclaimed to me one morning in September, I enjoy my guns, and my family enjoys their guns. And indeed, Manchin, a conservative Democrat from West Virginia, won election to the U.S. Senate in 2010 partly on the strength of a memorable TV ad depicting him firing a bullet through President Obamas cap-and-trade bill that had been anathema to coal miners in his state. But Manchins outlook changed the day he came back from a hunting trip last December, having learned of the 20 children and six adults slaughtered at Sandy Hook. That unique horror motivated him in a way that other recent mass shootings in Tucson and Aurora, Colo., had not....
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Nothing nuanced about it. If the principal of the school had been armed it could have been stopped before a single child was harmed.
The power of the NRA comes from its members!
” The combination of the bronze rifleman in the lobby and the young faces on the wall suggests a particular viewpoint “
that one has exactly nothing to do with the other.
But as propaganda, it’s pretty clever to link the two.
Ha ha ha the article even goes on about “internet gun sales” needing background checks.
Not one thing he proposed for law would have prevented that tragedy. Politicians always take the easy way out of problems.
Children were murdered. Lets attack the tool. Far easy to do then attacking the problem. Mentally ill humans.
Could being the operative word.
There is unfortunately no assurance that the good guys will always win a gunfight.
Plus, in a surprise attack the attacker always has the advantage. That's why surprise attacks are so effective.
I’m sorry to say I’ve done work with these jokers. They are blind to anything which does not match their world view.
About half the desks have an Obama book on it. Some have more than one. There are obama pictures hanging on the walls. They think tea party people are slightly below axe murderers.
They about wet themselves when I told them I had been shooting the prior weekend and had even been shooting some full auto rifles.
Saw one of their fashion editors wearing an outfit that looked exactly like a Luftwaffe uniform minus the insignia. She had the shade of gray perfect.
I’d rather go down fighting then go down wishing I could fight.
Dialed 911 but 1911 solved problem first.
They figure he’s vulnerable because he’s a ‘Rat.
Less children would have been killed if the teachers had been armed. That’s something only liberals don’t understand.
What the NYT fails to understand, is that - I - and -you -, and every other law-abiding American that joins, are the NRA, not some paid lobbyist in Washington, D.C.
“Politicians always take the easy way out of problems.
Children were murdered. Lets attack the tool.”
Come now. You are not so naive as to believe this nonsense. “Attacking the tool.” is not the easy way out, as a great many politicians have learned to their sorrow. It is flying in the face of facts, logic, and the Constitution, in order to curry favor with the far left demagogues and the MSM, who are often one and the same.
The “easy way out” would be to call for repealing the Gun Free School Zones act, which has been a disaster for this country.
or, to call for more responsibility from the MSM, who continue to “Shout Fire! in Crowded Schools”,
or, easier still, simply hold candlelight vigils and do nothing else.
Yeah, if there had been an armed teacher or two at Sandy Hook, there would be no news about a would-be shooter taken out prematurely.
But at least the principal would have had the possibilty of stopping the rampage before it became the tragedy that it did. Even some chance of stopping it would have been better than no chance at all.
Absolutely. My only issue is with those who seem to think armed security or teachers are some guarantee of safety.
This is the heart of the matter, right here. I can't tell you how many times I've made the point to disbelieving libs that the gun-rights movement is really grassroots... that the NRA doesn't wield its considerable power due to industry money (the industry isn't that rich, really), but due to individual memberships from men and women scattered across the country.
The NRA really does represent a large number of people, and these people really do have strong opinions on gun control.
I vaguely recall that Manchin’s support by the NRA was revoked back in 2010...........
There are some anti-gun people who claim that armed staff members will kill children rather than stopping an attacker. There are others, pro-gun people, who claim that an armed staff will guarantee the children’s safety.
I don’t subscribe to either of those extremes. While an armed staff member *may* be able to stop an attacker, an unarmed one certainly can’t.
Agree. While armed attackers have been stopped by people who are unarmed, it’s certainly not the way to bet.
The problem with this solution to school shootings is that both modern "teachers" and spree shooters are universally Leftist and functionally borderline mentally retarded.
Ponder this: Over the last forty years, since the Bolsheviks have pushed the concept that every pupil "needs" college, it has been the habit of academia to shovel the bottom of the barrel students into eduction and journalism.
These are now the sources of the daily news items of Zero Tolerance stupidity, and you want to promote morons with guns?
Luftwaffe uniforms were a dark blue.
A good example of this is the Portland, OR mall shooting that happened just before Sandy Hook. The CCW holder *may* have prevented further carnage, in this case simply by being in the right place at the right time - without even firing his handgun.
I actually heard the police radio feed from that incident, over a scanner app on my smartphone. I knew there was someone on the scene with a carry permit, but the media took a few days to comment on that point.
The power of the NYT comes from its high profile and its ability to feign objectivity.
There are gray versions
“There is unfortunately no assurance that the good guys will always win a gunfight”
Not being armed is a guaranteed loss. Did that thought never cross your mind?
That is what makes the NRA rather unique in the lobbying field.
The reason why they say that the gun industry must be fully funding the NRA, is because just about every other large lobbying group is funded by large corporate or non profit groups.
There aren’t any lobbyists that come from groups like the NRA. In Washington they are unique.
Some of the teachers here in Newtown are Veterans, and some are regular shooters with pistol permits. Not all teachers should be armed for the sake of doing so - not all citizens aren’t capable of that responsibility. But those who are able and willing to be trained? Why not!
“There all gray versions.’’ None that I’ve ever seen. The Luftwaffe uniforms where dark blue-gray, similar to the RAF but not entirely gray and tan for North Africa. The Luftwaffe eagle with the swastika in the middle was different than from the other branches in that it was configured like an eagle in flight.
Well a simple google shows me some but then I’m jot an expert. Nor do I prefer to argue about pointless things while missing the issue
What exactly does the NRA have to do with the murderer of 26 children and teachers at Sandy Hook? There is no connection.