Skip to comments.Climate change affecting Rio Grande water supply (clueless gov. bureaucrats, media lapdog)
Posted on 12/12/2013 4:17:43 PM PST by CedarDave
Rising Rio Grande Basin temperatures, already increasing faster than at any time in more than 10,000 years, are projected to sap the basin of one-third of its surface water supply by the end of the century, according to a new report by federal scientists.
It is sobering, said Assistant Secretary of the Interior Anne Castle, who was in Albuquerque on Wednesday morning for the release of the Upper Rio Grande Impact Assessment, done by a team of scientists from the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation, the Army Corps of Engineers and Sandia National Laboratories.
The study projected average temperature increases of 4 to 6 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the 21st century, with decreasing snowpack, increased evaporation and shrinking river flows converging on federal, state and local water management institutions. That has ripple effects throughout the system, Castle told a group of area water managers and community members Wednesday.
The assessment is the latest and most detailed in a series of analyses that have all come to the same conclusion: that rising greenhouse gases, which are driving up temperatures and changing the regions climate in other ways, are likely to cause substantial reductions in the regions already skimpy water supplies.
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All are drinking the AGW Kool-Aid. As government bureaucrats they depend on government funding so dissent from the company line on global warming/climate change is not allowed. And, of course, looking at actual facts might cause them to question their conclusions so better to dismiss these and remain ignorant. Calling them "scientists" is really a stretch.
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These people have become a self-parody.
Perpetuating a known myth.
If they don’t publish they perish. Its as simple as that! IOW say something. It doesn’t matter if it makes any sense.
I guess that they must have missed the memo from the IPCC and basically all of the official climate data sets... the earth has experienced no statistically significant warming in nearly twenty years.
Must have extrapolated data from Michael Mann's hockey stick graph.
The Rio Grande has been drying up for decades, but not because of global warming. These idiots are just looking around for anything to try to make their point, however unrelated.
For everyone's information, John Fleck is the Journal's science writer who publishes without question articles about man-caused global warming.
Here's a link to an article from this past Monday questioning whether the computer models used to simulate the impact of rising greenhouse gases may actually be underestimating the effect of global warming on long duration doubt in the southwest.
What this says is that the study is based on assumptions of future events for which they have not basis is science to make.
Innumerable future events and natural processes will impact CO2 in the atmosphere and mans contribution to CO2 in the atmosphere. They can not know what future events will or will not impact the Earths climate. Natural processes like volcano eruptions and plant growth stimulated by rising CO2 levels have a much greater impact on climate than do the activities of man.
These scientists mental masturbation contributes absolutely nothing to science or the progress thereof.
There are some unusual temperature fluctuations in both directions, but the north exists, too. Most fluctuations have been more toward cold and are likely to be that way, until sometime after the current extended solar minimum is passed. For now, we’re in the period of the usual solar max, so it’s likely to get much colder at times over the next 9 years or so, at least.
Yup. Its January/February cold here now and that sucks.
We’re at about 10 degrees right now but we’re getting a moderating effect from the great lakes till they cool down.
Ahh, but they cover their a$$es with this statement:
But while overall average water supplies will decline, the region is projected to experience an increasing range of wet and dry periods, with more severe droughts accompanied on occasion by more severe floods.
Of course, that is the history of the southwest - drought caused the Anasazi to move from Chaco Canyon about the time of Columbus and in the early 1940's, following depression era drought in the central US, large rainfall events filled Elephant Butte lake to overflowing.
Drought then heavy rainfall followed by drought is nothing new in the SW - only man's settlement in the southwest has changed the equation slightly (e.g. urban heat islands with thermometers located near heat sinks [i.e. black pavement], and first suppression of fires followed by logging bans causing mammoth forest fires which sterilize and cement the soil). These result in hotter days and nights in city areas and increased flooding when rain does fall. None of this is due to increases in CO2 or carbon in the atmosphere.
It almost got up to 50 today. Golden has some ice dam problems but the water won't get near El Passo the Missouri and Mississippi get the water.
there a hearing going on as we speak between Texas and New Mexico, the claim is southern New Mexico is using too much water from the rio for irrigation.
The old maps said Great American Desert but they changed the name so they could sell the land.
It’s all those Gila Monster lizards pissing in the Rio Grande that is raising the water temperature.
Must establish a “No Pissing Zone” ASAP.
To #9: I thought that was a scene from “2001” but in white.
Actually wish it was the final resting place of Obamacare.
“By the end of the century” was their answer in the last century, though it didn’t come to pass.
And the only thing that can stop it is RAISING YOUR TAXES
And IF Lake Estes drained into the Rio Grande River.
We are told by experts that in the American southwest, the Mesa Verde area was settled by 400 AD. The Anasazi inhabited Mesa Verde between 600 to 1300, and the settlements dried up and became uninhabited due to climate change that made agriculture unsustainable.
Was this the climate change in question?
projected average temperature increases of 4 to 6 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the 21st century ...
These so-called government scientists can’t even predict the weather a year from now; yet they want to impose regulations based on their predictions for what the temperature will be 88 years from now!
Is there anyone working for this Obama Admin. who has a lick of common sense or knowledge of what the scientific method entails? (rhetorical)
And most significantly, also no fear of being around in 87 years to be called to account. The penalties for misrepresentation and fraud really need to be strengthened. How many of these "scientists" conspired to conceal meetings and to withhold activity subject to the FOIA laws?
There is evidence that New Mexico and surrounding areas experience a 300-year drought cycle, and that we may be headed into that cycle again. Tell me again, who was responsible for the greenhouse gasses 300 years ago?
The first time I saw the Rio Grande in El Paso was over 30 years ago. The great news minds reported, “Illegal immigrants were swimming the Great River in the North to escape from Mexico into the US.” Well, little children waded waist high in the mighty river.
It’s dry now. The Rio Grande curves north to Colo at Las Cruces, NM. There’s been no water in it for two or three years.
In the Albuquerque metro area, it's flowing about how you describe Las Cruces from 30 years ago.