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Do you think the Mount Soledad cross should come down?
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 12/13/2013

Posted on 12/13/2013 7:53:59 PM PST by South40

Do you think the Mount Soledad cross should come down?

Poll here

20% YES

79% NO

Related Story: Judge: Mt. Soledad cross must come down

(Excerpt) Read more at utsandiego.com ...


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1 posted on 12/13/2013 7:53:59 PM PST by South40
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To: South40

No 79% (5469)

Yes 20% (1442)


2 posted on 12/13/2013 8:00:23 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: South40

Shame on the nutjob leftists who voted to take it down, still they are outvoted almost 4 to 1.

Tyranny of the minority. Is that what this country was built for. Our Founders despised Majoritarianism as in France, but I bet the only reason they never addressed Minoritarianism is because they didn’t think any part of the country would become this pathetic.

As others have said, California better start changing the names of all their cities, which have religious connotations.


3 posted on 12/13/2013 8:13:36 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: South40

NO (5549) 70%


4 posted on 12/13/2013 8:14:45 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: South40; dynachrome

79% No 5556
20% Yes 1451


5 posted on 12/13/2013 8:17:29 PM PST by mojo114 (Pray for our military)
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To: Viennacon
...but I bet the only reason they never addressed Minoritarianism is because they didn’t think any part of the country would become this pathetic...

Our founders DID address minoritarianism. That's why we're a Republic and not a democracy.

Franklin knew that a democracy was "two wolves and a sheep voting on what was for dinner" and said as much.

6 posted on 12/13/2013 8:20:30 PM PST by Washi
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To: South40

YES 20% (1453)
NO 79% (5590)
Total votes7043


7 posted on 12/13/2013 8:22:20 PM PST by Tigercap
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To: South40

This judge like tens of millions of the American people must have “Stockholm syndrome”.


8 posted on 12/13/2013 8:23:08 PM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: South40

It’s not coming down any time soon. He gave them 90 days, then stayed his own order pending appeal. Supreme court cases have evolved since the last round, and they currently have one re: City Council prayers before them that may also have some tangential impact.


9 posted on 12/13/2013 8:26:04 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: South40

I say the judge must come down!!!

Cross has been there longer than he’s been on the bench I am fairly sure!


10 posted on 12/13/2013 8:27:48 PM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Theodore R.

He’s a Bush appointee, and reportedly pretty unhappy about a ruling he had no choice but to make.


11 posted on 12/13/2013 8:30:05 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: South40

This poll needs to go VIRAL. Keep it going - off to repost.

YES 20% (1461)
NO 79% (5656)


12 posted on 12/13/2013 8:35:24 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Washi

Is that not majoritarianism? Where the majority is able to usurp the rights of the minority? That is essentially what a pure democracy is.

I was thinking of minoritarianism as some backward political correctness voodoo in which just because you’re a minority, you are awarded special rights, and essentially become cultural concentration camp guards, screwing over the prisoners, who actually outnumber you.


13 posted on 12/13/2013 8:37:28 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
Is that not majoritarianism?

I stand corrected, and you're right; I can't think of any measures that the founders took to attempt to address minoritarianism. Perhaps someone else here is more historically informed.

They did know that they wouldn't get everything perfect, so they left the option open to amend the Constitution.

14 posted on 12/13/2013 9:36:35 PM PST by Washi
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To: Washi

The Founding Fathers never saw political correctness coming.


15 posted on 12/13/2013 9:39:09 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: South40
Maybe we will have to let bums like this judge force us to take such tokenism symbols down that we may come to appreciate the God-given right to honor and protect its meaning, and erect more in memoriam of our Christ.

So far, they haven't prohibited us to observe that which He did command us--the Remembrance.

16 posted on 12/13/2013 10:27:56 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: South40
Do you think the Mount Soledad cross should come down?

Yes 20% (1518)

No 79% (5990)

17 posted on 12/13/2013 10:30:31 PM PST by defal33 ("I Am Andrew Breitbart")
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To: South40

Freeped.


18 posted on 12/14/2013 1:19:05 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: South40

I’m beginning to think that if we had a Democratic society rather than a Republic, popular votes would finally matter and tyranny would end.


19 posted on 12/14/2013 3:41:46 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: HarleyD

Like all liberals, the judge needs to be purged.


20 posted on 12/14/2013 4:10:59 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: ArmstedFragg

I pray God lets me live long enough to see the US Constitution and Our Bill or Rights restored in the Law Schools and in the divided Judiciary where it seems those who reject the terms adopted in favor of the metaphysical refinements and tests o flogical skill that do more to beguile and more to defend FRAUD than they ever supported Our supreme Law of the land— I pray God will allow me live to see our Courts once again support our Constitution/and Bill of Rights as they seem to have done better at doing prior to FDR changing the Court.


21 posted on 12/14/2013 4:48:07 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: South40

Just voted, no at 80%, yes at 19%


22 posted on 12/14/2013 5:36:51 AM PST by billphx
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To: South40; 2ndDivisionVet; 45semi; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; ...
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23 posted on 12/14/2013 7:08:57 AM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: StonyBurk

Amen!


24 posted on 12/14/2013 7:15:52 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: South40

Couldn’t find the poll. Taken down because it wasn’t going their way?


25 posted on 12/14/2013 7:24:16 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

About 1/4 way down in the middle here:

http://www.utsandiego.com/


26 posted on 12/14/2013 7:26:32 AM PST by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: South40

Do you think the Mount Soledad cross should come down?

Yes .........20% (1659)

No ..........79% (6634)

Total votes........8293


27 posted on 12/14/2013 7:26:45 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: dynachrome

Thanks voted. That is a totally different page than the one that came up for me at your link.


28 posted on 12/14/2013 7:31:30 AM PST by Ditter
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To: dynachrome

Do you think the Mount Soledad cross should come down?

YES 20% (1687)
NO 79% (6696)


29 posted on 12/14/2013 7:51:45 AM PST by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: South40

Yes 20% (1753)

No 79% (6716)


30 posted on 12/14/2013 7:58:12 AM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: Theodore R.

Yes just because the four atheists in the country are upset about it its only fair to take the cross down. What a crock! Somebody needs to remind then and the judge that majority rules not minority.


31 posted on 12/14/2013 8:29:46 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: South40

As a non-Christian, I say let it stand. I don’t mind one bit.

In fact, I approve. People need faith in theirs lives. Excising religion from all public display will do no one any good.

Didn’t Stalin try some crap like this? How’d that turn out?


32 posted on 12/14/2013 8:35:12 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No. The “majority” does not “rule”. Not entirely. There are some Rights which even the Majority does not have the “right” to infringe.

That’s why we were created as a Republic.


33 posted on 12/14/2013 8:36:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Not when it comes to a cross on a hill. Separation of church and state says nothing to keep religious symbols out of the public domain. That has all come from activist progressive judges.


34 posted on 12/14/2013 9:03:01 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: South40

The Constitution Bill of Rights was to restrict government not to restrict citizens. If citizens paid for the Cross, then stay the Cross.


35 posted on 12/14/2013 9:09:28 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: South40; mickie; pax_et_bonum; flaglady47
Freeped and bumped.

Go and do thou likewise.

Leni

36 posted on 12/14/2013 10:26:58 AM PST by MinuteGal (Repeal.....NOT Revamp !!!)
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To: South40
Yes - 30% (3058)
No - 69% (7132)

What's wrong with these (Yes) people! If the cross offends you, please, please don't go there! Problem solved!

37 posted on 12/14/2013 11:07:41 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The public domain should be inclusive of the various beliefs of the public. Not exclusive.

And no, your appeal to “democracy” still doesn’t work here.


38 posted on 12/14/2013 11:49:14 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Argue with the Constitution not me. :-)


39 posted on 12/14/2013 11:51:26 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SandRat
The original lawsuit was filed in 2006 by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of the Jewish Veterans of the United States of American and several other Southern California residents.
40 posted on 12/14/2013 11:54:17 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The word “democracy” doesn’t appear anywhere in the Constitution...


41 posted on 12/14/2013 11:55:40 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I never said it did. A Constitutional Republic retains certain rights to protect the minority. That has nothing to do with a cross on a hill. Read the Part of the Constitution that speaks to separation of church and state and you will understand better.

By the way Merry Christmas!!!!! I’m dreaming of crossess. :-))


42 posted on 12/14/2013 12:00:07 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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