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Parents' outrage after angry school bus driver 'punches son
Daily Mail ^ | 13 December 2013 | DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Posted on 12/14/2013 12:26:59 PM PST by moonshinner_09

A New Mexico school bus driver has been suspended after allegedly punching an 11-year-old boy in the face for watching a video on the ride home. The incident that left Karen and Scott Dickerson’s son with an injured forehead took place December 6 at the end classes at Eisenhower Middle School. Officials with the school district and Durham School Services that operates the bus said the driver has been placed on unpaid leave pending the results of an investigation.The injured sixth-grader's family said he has been having headaches and had trouble sleeping since being struck by the driver. According to a police report cited by the station KOB-4, the altercation happened aboard bus No. 203 at around 3pm in front of a half dozen middle schoolers. Dickersons' son and several other students were watching a video aboard the bus, which prompted the driver to blow his whistle in anger. The man then pulled over, got out of his seat and started yelling.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; newmexico; schoolbusdriver
Why would this bus driver think he has the right to strike this 11 year old young boy ? It has reached a point if you can do it, home school your kids at home.
1 posted on 12/14/2013 12:26:59 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

There has to be WAY more to this story...


2 posted on 12/14/2013 12:28:06 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: moonshinner_09

If this had happened to me, my parents would have thanked the bus driver and blamed me. Then again, we’re talking 60’s & 70s.


3 posted on 12/14/2013 12:28:39 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: moonshinner_09

If the boy is having headaches and trouble sleeping, I sure hope the parents take him to a neurologist. Sounds like a concussion to me. As for punching an eleven year old boy for watching a video... no comment. Except to say that if it was my boy... the driver would have to watch his back.


4 posted on 12/14/2013 12:33:45 PM PST by momtothree
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To: 2banana
There has to be WAY more to this story...

Yes. I reserve comment on this one until ALL the facts are properly reported.

5 posted on 12/14/2013 12:34:25 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2banana
There has to be WAY more to this story...

Absolutely. I drove a school bus for 2 years. The reason most schools have video cameras on buses now is for the protection of the driver and or aides. I got my first route because a group of "Christian" school kids burned a Bible on the bus the week before and the drive had a nervous breakdown.

6 posted on 12/14/2013 12:35:17 PM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: momtothree

I’m sure the parents will take him to a neurologist, after their visit with a lawyer.


7 posted on 12/14/2013 12:35:51 PM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: moonshinner_09

Backinmyday(tm), there was an effort to hire older bus drivers with medical conditions, “hire the disabled” sort of thing, before it was fashionable.

If the kids started acting up, the driver would offer to show them their medical thing. Surprisingly effective. The girls would be grossed out, and the boys would be in awe.

I still remember one older woman driver with bursitis, who had golf ball sized swellings on her elbows.


8 posted on 12/14/2013 12:37:34 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t know the whole story, but on the face of it the driver went overboard.

However, I wish some of these drivers had the gumption like this with those abusive kids, like the kids that were beating up that sole white boy. They NEED a beating, no matter how some of the wimps on that site say no 11yo should ever be socked by an adult. That is BS. Never say never.

I also think I agree with some of his other alleged actions.

And 1 starts to wonder what is wrong with the family if BOTH their kids have been hit? Are they raising them poorly?


9 posted on 12/14/2013 12:37:51 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: 2banana

“There has to be WAY more to this story...”

There’s going to have to be an awful lot more to justify punching a kid in the face.

This is assault, and even if one thinks that physical discipline is sometimes warranted that does not consist of punching in the face/head.


10 posted on 12/14/2013 12:41:06 PM PST by jocon307
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To: moonshinner_09

There are other places to let go with the corporal punishment than a kid’s head, places on the body that are made for it. Even if there IS more to the story...


11 posted on 12/14/2013 12:41:23 PM PST by madison10
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To: moonshinner_09

Not enough information even at the link. Punching an 11 year old in the face on the surface seems way out of line. With no more info than I have I’d have to say that if I was the father, the driver would be talking with a high pitched voice and it would hurt when he pees. I’d be out on bail for assault charges.


12 posted on 12/14/2013 12:41:34 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Why is the bus driver’s identity being protected? Nobody’s race makes any difference here, wrong is wrong. The article says he was accused of hitting a little girl student as well, some months ago, and slamming his brakes while students were standing. This is someone who should have been fired many months ago. The district better get that checkbook out and be ready to write off couple thousand. Not the best publicity for the school either, who allowed the abusive driver to keep going.


13 posted on 12/14/2013 12:45:05 PM PST by lee martell
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To: 2banana
There has to be WAY more to this story...

There ALWAYS is, isn't there? My Spidey Sense tingled reading this line: "Dickersons' son and several other students were watching a video aboard the bus, which prompted the driver to blow his whistle in anger."

What sort of video? Were they playing it very loud and hooting and distracting the driver? How many is "several other students"? If "several" were watching the video, does that mean many of them were standing up while the bus was in motion? Did any of these "students" strike the driver prior to his alleged assault?

So many questions in a case like this. One clue is always how quickly the parents run to the cops and/or press to get out in front of the story before it's revealed their little angel had some culpability.

14 posted on 12/14/2013 12:45:13 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Lx

What did the kid do so wrong, (IF, IF, IF the story is reported correctly), here? What did the kid do that was so heinous that deserved a closed fist sock in the face by a grown man? I grew up a long time ago in a different America. If this had happened like reported, (ie: no gun, no knife presented by the kid at the driver thus a self defense type thing by that driver), that driver may well have been ‘disappeared’ by some of the local men folk.


15 posted on 12/14/2013 12:46:50 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: 2banana
There has to be WAY more to this story...

I'm sure there is. Some yutes just need a hard backhand these days.

16 posted on 12/14/2013 12:48:30 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: moonshinner_09
Bus driver on my bus didn't have to hit anybody. He had a look that would melt the glass right out of the rear view mirror. If he said your name and looked at you, you'd turn into a dead toad. The guy was scary as hell. NOBODY crossed him.

Actually a good guy overall, but you didn't mess with him.

17 posted on 12/14/2013 12:58:50 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Dickersons' son and several other students were watching a video aboard the bus, which prompted the driver to blow his whistle in anger.
In anger? You mean a whistle has different sounds to it depending on one's emotional state?
Oh, those poooooor students. Better get the counselors ready, don't want to burden our precious little angels.
18 posted on 12/14/2013 1:00:09 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BBell

19 posted on 12/14/2013 1:01:31 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: moonshinner_09
That would be one busted-up bus driver if that were my son, daughter or any of their classmates or school bus compadres.

I had to deal with something very similar back in 1992.

The only investigation needed was mine and the driver got 10X what my kids got.

20 posted on 12/14/2013 1:03:37 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: jocon307
This is assault, and even if one thinks that physical discipline is sometimes warranted that does not consist of punching in the face/head.

Head shot = deadly force.

21 posted on 12/14/2013 1:04:55 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: 2banana

“There has to be WAY more to this story...”

Maybe so, but I find it difficult, absent the kid assaulting the driver, that would justify his actions. Apart from having to defend himself, the driver is in serious trouble.


22 posted on 12/14/2013 1:07:04 PM PST by vette6387
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To: moonshinner_09

The day Uncle Scam made it unacceptable for adults to physically discipline children was the day our civilization was cooked.


23 posted on 12/14/2013 1:13:56 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: lightman

“Head shot = deadly force.”

Yes, that’s the whole “logic” behind the so-called knock-out game, no?

Slap in the face, maybe even (not that I advocate it), but punching, by a grown man? That is right out!


24 posted on 12/14/2013 1:21:32 PM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Should be met with equal or greater force.


25 posted on 12/14/2013 1:27:23 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: USNBandit

LOL, very good! Saul needs a good case!


26 posted on 12/14/2013 1:27:39 PM PST by jocon307
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To: madison10
There are other places to let go with the corporal punishment than a kid’s head, places on the body that are made for it

When the truth comes out it will clearly show the kid assaulted the driver by hitting the driver's fist with his head. The driver will sue the kid's parents for damages.

27 posted on 12/14/2013 1:28:49 PM PST by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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To: 2banana
Karen Dickerson told police the driver has had issues with students prior to the incident. The mother said that in the past, she had complained to Durham School Services after the driver allegedly struck her daughter, but the company failed to act. The driver also has been known to smoke aboard the bus and purposefully slam on the breaks when he saw students stand up.

Sounds like a sadist.

28 posted on 12/14/2013 1:36:35 PM PST by Flick Lives (If you like your freedom, you can keep your freedom.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Never hit a child in the face nature has provided a much better place.
29 posted on 12/14/2013 1:43:17 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: moonshinner_09

Totally agree with you on that- If I had a school-age child these days, that’s what I would be doing (homeschooling).

If the rules of the bus are that you can’t do anything but sit in your seat quietly, no video games, no texting, etc., and you had a long ride home, then that’s just not right. The “enforcer” was going to teach the kid a lesson and lost it. Wrong no matter what.

On a similar thought, I went to see a friend’s 5-year daughter’s dance recital at a local elem.school. All ages from toddlers to old ladies were represented. It went on for a little over an hour. For me, it was tolerable, but for the 8-yr. old brother, likely not. He started playing quietly with his little electronic video game not bothering anybody. He got in trouble with his parents, for not paying attention to the girls dancing. Frankly, I would have left him alone. What do you all say?


30 posted on 12/14/2013 1:49:15 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

Re: Forced attendance at younger sister’s dance recital.

Having to endure these for four years, I would have preferred being locked in the trunk for the two and a half hours.
I still get tremors on hearing “American Patrol” or when someone mentions “Hula Babies” (actually they were kind of fun to watch, every blessed one of them out of synch and doing something different.)


31 posted on 12/14/2013 2:05:11 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Lx

“If this had happened to me, my parents would have thanked the bus driver and blamed me. Then again, we’re talking 60’s & 70s.”

Sorry. Discipline is one thing. But this is an adult acting out his frustrations and anger. It is never appropriate to punch a kid. Most likely that ‘something else’ is him tired of the kids.
You can’t work with kids, then don’t. It isn’t for everyone.


32 posted on 12/14/2013 3:04:55 PM PST by LevinFan
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

“The day Uncle Scam made it unacceptable for adults to physically discipline children was the day our civilization was cooked.”

Maybe so, but a punch to the face is not discipline. It is acting out his anger from a position of power. It is important to know the difference. Discipline is for the kid’s benefit and is controlled. Acting out is for the angry adult’s benefit. I think we all know which one this was.


33 posted on 12/14/2013 3:08:53 PM PST by LevinFan
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To: 2banana

Like the dad whose ex-finance secretly taped “kicking and punching” (not really) his blubbering daughter “for eating carrots”... there is the “real story”... somewhere.


34 posted on 12/14/2013 4:10:01 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Hardastarboard
Crankshaft?


35 posted on 12/14/2013 4:19:09 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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