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Chicago crime heading down overall but plagues some neighborhoods
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | December 14, 2013 | Frank Main

Posted on 12/15/2013 2:34:20 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

".....Still, some Chicago communities — such as West Garfield Park on the West Side — continue to suffer from extremely high rates of violence, [Professor Andrew] Papachristos noted.

“There is a lot of work to be done,” he said in an interview. “The work to be done is how to deal with the inequality in the crime rates.”

The violent crime rate for West Garfield Park in 2011 was more than 3,000 crimes per 100,000 people, more than any community in Chicago other than Fuller Park on the South Side. Papachristos’ research showed West Garfield Park was more murderous in the 2000s than in the 1970s.....

...“Taken together, such community level trends show that nearly all communities in Chicago experienced a decline in murder and overall crime over the past several decades,” Papachristos wrote. “At the same time, however, crime remains persistently in particular communities, especially in socially and economically disadvantaged parts of the city.”

[Evelyn] Diaz [commissioner of the Department of Family and Support Services] said her department is attacking crime by “reaching out to young people before their first arrest.” For example, about 1,000 black males ages 14 to 16 were hired this year through the city’s One Summer Plus program. The University of Chicago Crime Lab found the program helped reduce arrests for violent crimes among the youths by 51 percent by providing them with jobs, therapy and mentoring in 2012.

The police, meanwhile, have launched new crime-fighting strategies, including “impact zones” in 20 high-crime areas where off-duty officers and rookie cops have been conducting foot patrols. This year, the city is expected to spend about $93 million on overtime for police officers, including those working off-duty in the impact zones.......


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: crime; innercity; shooting; youth
1. Democrat Party run (for decades) cities = crime ridden, no-hope communities. Though as certain as day follows night, crime and ignorance are blamed on economics. So the urgent call goes out for those "fortunate winners of life's lottery" to pay out more in taxes to "vulnerables," which results in more vulnerables, with the assurance that they will stay on the Democrat Party plantation and keeping race-baiting liberals in power.

2. Fatherless households = crime ridden communities. And of course this comes full circle back to liberal, progressive, state thinking that government is your daddy.

1 posted on 12/15/2013 2:34:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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“There is a lot of work to be done,” he said in an interview. “The work to be done is how to deal with the inequality in the crime rates.”

They REALLY "think" this way!

2 posted on 12/15/2013 2:40:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well we already know their answer to the problem- mo’ money, redistribution from the shrinking middle to the undertow, but not before the elite skim the cream. Maybe another million to the gangstas known as “Ceasefire” that no one can account for when it’s gone in a year or so...


3 posted on 12/15/2013 3:05:45 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Fatherless households = crime ridden communities. And of course this comes full circle back to liberal, progressive, state thinking that government is your daddy.

Bingo! Take taxpayer dollars, throw them at the poor, make them dependent, destroy the family structure. Now they are dependent on the government and form a permanent voting block; permanent that is until the entire structure crumbles economically ala Detroit.

4 posted on 12/15/2013 3:41:10 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"“There is a lot of work to be done,” he said in an interview. “The work to be done is how to deal with the inequality in the crime rates.” They REALLY "think" this way!"

So if we can bring up the crime rates for underrepresented groups, all will be okay... A new government crime enhancement program may be in order.

5 posted on 12/15/2013 3:59:42 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The two worst neighborhoods in Chicago account for about 90% of Chicago's murder rate. Those neighborhoods are the Austin (near West Side) and Gresham (near South side.)

My commuter train passes through Gresham. It looks like a war zone. I imagine Beirut probably looks better. I mean it's a complete crap-hole and I shake my head wondering how people can live that way.

6 posted on 12/15/2013 4:09:57 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
So this means nothing just another white wash to save the ballerina from criticism. If you change the numbers to your advantage you win because the dopes will feed at the trough and not be bothered looking for the truth thier to busy watching dancing with the stars and e entertainment
7 posted on 12/15/2013 5:03:41 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey man, It’s winter there. too cold to go out and cap someone. Wait till it warms up a bit.. Right now stay in your warm crib, smoke crack, watch TV, and call your buddies on your Obamaphone.


8 posted on 12/15/2013 5:04:40 AM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: ronnie raygun
It's been well known for decades which the worst neighborhoods for crime are. The media may not have talked about it or acknowledged it, the fact remains the general population has known for a very, very long time which neighborhoods to stay out of.

I'll also tell you that there are still parts of the west side of Chicago that have never been re-built post the 1968 Democrat Convention riots. They weren't rebuilt to send a message. They continue to not be rebuilt to continue sending that message.

9 posted on 12/15/2013 5:06:45 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: wetgundog
Right on. The first warm day after Feb 1st is when the murder rate spikes.

Not unusual to see 40-60 people shot on the first warm weekend. All that pent up hostility is just waiting to break out when the weather warms up.

10 posted on 12/15/2013 5:09:02 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“At the same time, however, crime remains persistently in particular communities, especially in socially and economically disadvantaged parts of the city.”

OK, perfesser, let's get a program together that gives everyone in that neighborhood $1 million, and we'll see them lifted out of their criminal behaviors, right? Of course, Illinois colleges could take the necessary budget cuts for that one year to pay for such a program, right? It's the humane and scientific thing to do, after all.

11 posted on 12/15/2013 5:16:05 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

“Cincinatus’ Wife”, You sound so bitter :) (sarc)


12 posted on 12/15/2013 5:54:28 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yup They do.


13 posted on 12/15/2013 6:03:45 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: usconservative

A lot depends on how much you include in “neighborhood” - the area centered around Gresham and the area centered around Austin are certainly the worst in the city.

But by traditional neighborhood definitions, Englewood wins out on the South Side, and East Garfield Park on the West Side:

http://www.heyjackass.com/category/2013/

It is amazing how badly the city has deteriorated in just a few decades: I had my first beer drinking with buddies of mine who lived in Gresham, and my sister went to high school in South Shore (#2 on the current deathlist) back when it was a solidly upper-middle-class, mostly Jewish and Irish neighborhood. I was going to say I wouldn’t be caught dead in either today, but actually the only way I would be found these days in either would be dead.

And Rahm has no clue as to how to handle that problem, other than by trying to manage the news and buy off the gangs. The current police commissioner is a putz, the city finances are in a death spiral, and the two big papers (along with the local networks) do everything they can do bury the black-on-white crime incidents that have been spreading from the “bordertown” neighborhoods to fancy enclaves like Upper Michigan Avenue and Streeterville. It’s only a matter of time before a city council with nothing but Democrat members gives us a bigger, more tragic version of Detroit.


14 posted on 12/15/2013 6:18:38 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Stosh

Note to self: Austin does in fact beat out Garfield Park in this year’s murder toll (although when it comes to West Side shiiteholes, there ain’t that much difference between the two).


15 posted on 12/15/2013 6:25:16 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Stosh
A lot depends on how much you include in “neighborhood”

I suppose that could be true. IIRC, one of the Metra Trains - the Rock Island Service - stops in both Englewood and Gresham (at least that's what the stops are labeled.) I took that train for about 8 years before switching back to the Southwest Service which (again, IIRC) goes through the Gresham neighborhood.

BTW, that Hey Jackass! site is great!

16 posted on 12/15/2013 6:33:58 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Stosh; Lurker
I think Lurker has the murder stats down cold for each "neighborhood" in Chicago. He and I have gone back and forth on this topic before.

One time through Gresham I took my iPad out and video'd the neighborhood as the train passed through. Never could get that video to upload to YouTube though for some stupid reason.

That video shows what a burned out shithole Gresham is....

17 posted on 12/15/2013 6:35:49 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Flick Lives

The crime in poor neighborhoods is nothing compaired the crimes out of Hyde Park.


18 posted on 12/15/2013 6:39:56 AM PST by bgill
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a crap comparison.

West Garfield Park ( less than 2 square miles ) was overwhelmingly white in 1960, less so in 1970.

In 1960 WGP was approx. 83% white & 15% black.
In 1970 WGP was approx. 65% white & 33% black.
In 1980 WGP dramatic shift - 75% black, whites running away

Open housing laws of the 70’s caused WGP to go instantly black.


19 posted on 12/15/2013 7:23:42 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: usconservative

A good buddy of mine from high school lived in Beverly, and we’d occasionally pick up the Rock Island near his home on our way downtown.

And I still have fond memories of cutting high school classes one day to make opening week of one the James Bond flics; the goof-offs I went to the show with all met at the El station at 63rd and Ashland - right smack in Englewood - and took it downtown. No way I’d do that today under any circumstances, drunk or sober.

It’s a shame what’s happened to Gresham. In a similar vein, about 6 months back I bailed from the Bishop Ford at 115th Street due to a major back-up, and worked my way south down Michigan Avenue through the Pullman neighborhood. Now Pullman was never anything great, but these days it’s downright scary. My wife told me if I ever did that again, she’d never speak to me - if we survived, that is.


20 posted on 12/15/2013 9:59:09 AM PST by Stosh
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To: usconservative

I grew up in Oak Park and commuted to St. Ignatius. Austin and Garfield Park haven’t changed an iota since the 60s. My dad had his contractor building on Madison near Kostner. Nothing has changed. Family disintegration on display these 50 years.


21 posted on 12/15/2013 9:59:30 AM PST by jobim (.)
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