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Tea Party steps up war of words against Boehner over budget vote
Fox News ^ | December 14, 2013

Posted on 12/15/2013 4:19:39 AM PST by Olog-hai

Tea party activists are pushing back hard against Speaker John Boehner for attacking conservative groups that are opposed to bipartisan budget legislation approved this week by the House, claiming he has “declared war on the Tea Party” with his blunt criticism.

In a fundraising email to supporters, Tea Party Patriots referred to the Ohio Republican as a “ruling class politician” who only pretends to be a conservative while remaining a “tax-and-spend liberal,” The Hill reported Friday.

The group, which supported efforts to defund the Affordable Care Act, accused Boehner of passing a “back-room budget deal which increases discretionary spending, does nothing to reform entitlements, and fully funds ObamaCare.”

The organization called the deal “an out and out betrayal of the American people.” …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: astroturf; boehner; boner; districtofcolumbia; johnboehner; ohio; rino; teaparty; tpino
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1 posted on 12/15/2013 4:19:39 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I’m trying to remember... were the occupy idiots referred to as ‘activists’?

good to know you have to be an ‘activist’ to want smaller govt, lower taxes, restrained spending, and fiscal responsibility in govt

yea... those TEA party guys are real loony toons


2 posted on 12/15/2013 4:24:38 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Olog-hai

So the one time this weeny fights for something it’s against us.

Jerk


3 posted on 12/15/2013 4:25:19 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Olog-hai

The speaker is as useless as tits on a wild boar. . .


4 posted on 12/15/2013 4:25:59 AM PST by DeaconRed (I love you Granddaddy: The most beautiful words ever spoken.)
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To: autumnraine

They attack the Tea Party at their own peril.

They must want to lose.


5 posted on 12/15/2013 4:27:00 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Olog-hai

Successful candidates for the Senate have spent upwards of ten million dollars. I don’t know what a primary costs but I’d guess another ten million. I’d say primary any RINOs but that would mean spending twenty million dollars. There can’t be a lot of Tea Partiers with that kind of money.

Too bad we don’t seem to have a well-connected strategist to help out. Years ago I’d have said it was Karl Rove, but he has proved more RINO than Tea Party.


6 posted on 12/15/2013 4:27:20 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Olog-hai; All

Well, the people of Ohio have some serious thinkun’ ta do...

But if you ask me, I don’t think they have the guts to dump this guy...

I would love to be proven wrong, but I am just not going to lay down any bets, or hold my breath...


7 posted on 12/15/2013 4:27:26 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Olog-hai

Boehner needs to be primaried and beaten to a political pulp. Damn coward


8 posted on 12/15/2013 4:29:39 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yes, Rove has done a lot for the Democratic Party. Hope he can find somewhere to spend his thirty pieces of silver when the Dems and RINOs finally deal a death blow to the economy.


9 posted on 12/15/2013 4:32:06 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Gen.Blather

Actually, I’d have said years ago that money would have bought most any election. Here in Georgia, Republicans and conservatives were mostly content to try in increase the lead of ‘Republicans’ over Democrats in the state house and senate and governorship, and they were content to accept the then perceived ‘foibles’ of a representative that was ‘not quite up to snuff.’

However, given the last five years and the absolute betrayal of a Senate and House that have given into the self-survival instinct (i.e., appease, trick and lie to your constituents at home, etc.), I’d say that money is second to dissatisfaction at home, one that I can say is vehement satisfaction and need for retribution against a traitorous GOP.

I am going to do everything I can to unseat my Senators (Chambliss is leaving but I’ll fight against his GOP chosen successor). And, as a result of his recent traitorous vote on the budget, my Congressman, Doug Collins.

I don’t care about keeping the majority in the House, or winning the Senate if it means we keep dishonorable people like this up there. Never again.


10 posted on 12/15/2013 4:35:30 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai
The ONLY good thing that has come of this:

"...bill is also designed to eliminate the threat of another budget shutdown like the one this fall."... and avoid letting the press distract people with "stories" about "republican shut downs" and "party of no."

Quite accidentally, while offending his base and not moving towards fiscal stability - indeed moving away from it - Boehner got lucky and achieved a likely path to making the House majority larger and gaining a Senate majority.

It will be up to us to make sure that we get tea party people elected to enact appropriate reforms. If we don't achieve getting tea party people elected, then we only have ourselves to blame. Let's avoid that and just frickin' work like hell to get tea party people elected.

I'd really like to NOT get on here after midterms having to bitch about GOPe vs tea party. I want enough tea in the House and Senate to not have to fight - peace thru strength ya know. This bone-headed deal will help us do that - AS WILL the country's focus on 0bamacare and the economy.

11 posted on 12/15/2013 4:36:07 AM PST by Principled
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To: Conspiracy Guy

He could stay in congress if the folks in Ohio want to keep the creep but he has to go as speaker. Problem is who do we get to replace him, Ryan? We need some one that uses a wheel barrow.


12 posted on 12/15/2013 4:36:57 AM PST by biff (WAS)
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To: Gen.Blather

I’m hoping the tea party candidate’s appeal to most will allow him or her to use the internet to get enough cash.

Who knows stats on recent tea wins? Did they have to have big donors?


13 posted on 12/15/2013 4:37:45 AM PST by Principled
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To: Olog-hai

I’m sure the rats wouldn’t hang out their ‘dirty laundry’ like the pubbies do. Keep in in-house guys.


14 posted on 12/15/2013 4:38:37 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Olog-hai

...this is the guy who CAN investigate and subpoena through the House Oversight Committee and all we hear are empty threats......he spends way too much time under a sun lamp.
Meanwhile, billions are being stolen while HE sobs through his tenure...totally useless!


15 posted on 12/15/2013 4:39:14 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: stevie_d_64

I agree he won’t be dumped by Ohio but the Speakership is another story. The more tea folks elected, the less likely is a continued Boehner speakership IMO


16 posted on 12/15/2013 4:39:16 AM PST by Principled
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To: Gaffer

What do you say about Dr. Paul Broun to replace the horrible Chambliss?

As for Collins - I like him in spite of his recent vote. In fact I think the result of that vote will be a major component in taking the Senate.

We have to make sure the right people are elected to take over such new majority as you say.


17 posted on 12/15/2013 4:44:16 AM PST by Principled
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To: Olog-hai

Dick Morris, of all people, came out and said it. Boehmer would not be Speaker except for the Tea Party. What happened, of course, is that the Leadership expected to co-opt the newcomers and teacher them how to “get-along in this town.” That happened in a few cases but they were unable to tame the caucus, and this has outraged those Lobbyist who expect to bribe enough politicians in both parties to get their wishes.


18 posted on 12/15/2013 4:48:57 AM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Principled

My dad used to tell me there was nothing worse than a reformed drunk.


19 posted on 12/15/2013 4:50:10 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Olog-hai

re-election rates for incumbents over the past 50 years:
House - over 80%
Senate - over 75% (except for 1976, 1978, 1980)

Article V


20 posted on 12/15/2013 4:51:34 AM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Olog-hai
For what it is worth: The Republicans are fighting over the principles of what they stand for. Meanwhile, the Democrats and the mainstream media are collecting soundbites to use to create their "narrative" to use against conservatives.

The Democrat/Media machine never sleeps. They are always distorting, lying, spinning and shaping the next news cycle.

Our real enemy is the media.

21 posted on 12/15/2013 4:53:11 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Venturer

He golfs with the enemy nuff sed!


22 posted on 12/15/2013 4:59:40 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Principled

The guy is older than I am! I’ve said on the Georgia Forum that I am through with good ole boys, myself.

He grew up as a Democrat and became a Republican in the 80s, and frankly that isn’t a pedigree for what I think we need. I want a younger, leaner family man with children that are still exposed to the ills of our education system, the future heavy debt these lawmakers put on them, and the constant demoralization of our country. I want them to have a dire, vested interest in correcting this. As far as I’m concerned, these good ole boys are just in it for themselves (ala Chambliss and Isakson).

Collins? He was my one term Congressman due to redistricting. My other reps were Tom Graves and Nathan Deal before him. I’ve written to Collins several times. I told him there are two things he needs to do to keep my vote: 1) NO AMNESTY for illegal aliens, and 2) NO deficit spending. He violated the second one with his recent vote. As I recently told him, I’ll not be voting for him again.


23 posted on 12/15/2013 5:02:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

The TEA Party was defeated politically, but the Fiscal Math lives on. This fact will never be defeated until entitlement spending is reformed. Our day of reckoning with our irresponsible spending is coming. This is simply reality...regardless of what the Dems, Obama, Reid, or Boehner say.


24 posted on 12/15/2013 5:03:21 AM PST by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: DeaconRed
The speaker is as useless as tits on a wild boar. . .

Exactly. Wait . . . what?

25 posted on 12/15/2013 5:08:08 AM PST by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: Principled

Boehnor is no different now than in the last election. Almost all of the GOP House members ended up voting him. The few that didn’t were spanked and sent on their way.

It is naive at best to expect the vote will be significantly different. All these guys are blowhards. They say what you want to hear, then slink off and do what they want to do.

Save this post....Boehnor will be re-elected as Speaker if he wants the job.


26 posted on 12/15/2013 5:09:16 AM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Gaffer

Life is full of choices indeed.

I am in the same boat in re deal/graves.

FWIW Collins is just the person you describe ...younger family man w/ children. I wonder how that squares with vested interest? Not questioning you I’m just wondering what he saw in the budget that made him vote for it. Too bad we can’t just ask him. Letters are lame. I prefer face to face conversations with those who expect to earn my vote.


27 posted on 12/15/2013 5:11:41 AM PST by Principled
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To: Gaffer

“I don’t care about keeping the majority in the House, or winning the Senate if it means we keep dishonorable people like this up there. Never again.”

The trouble is our view of what’s going on is clouded by being on the outside of a complicated game. Politicians trade their votes like gamblers. They try to amass votes for issues they want to pass while exchanging heir yes vote to issues they’d like to fail in exchange. That’s how the game is played. So, from the outside we don’t know what they really want. (If they have any guiding philosophy other than staying in office, that is.)

Only over time and many issues does a pattern that we can read emerge. How many times did he vote for something we don’t like that failed versus how many times he voted for something we’d like that passed?


28 posted on 12/15/2013 5:13:22 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: vmivol00

Of course he may be speaker again. I don’t think I said otherwise - if I did it was an error.

I’ll say this - the more tea that is elected in the house, the less likely another Boehner speakership.


29 posted on 12/15/2013 5:13:47 AM PST by Principled
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To: sten

“......you have to be an ‘activist’ to want smaller govt, lower taxes, restrained spending, and fiscal responsibility in govt.”....

Guess then I’m an “activist” even though my screen name is “Progov” (how I got that name I’ll never know). I have no problem with a SMALL and HONEST gubmint as we do need some degree of “organization” but what we have today is outragous to say the least. Slim it down and clean it up!!!


30 posted on 12/15/2013 5:15:09 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: Principled
Yes, I realized that about Collins, and he failed greatly in my opinion.

I just cannot understand a man that goes against his constituents who would support him to the hilt for following through on his promises and opts to align himself with the likes of Boehner, John Lewis, and Hank Johnson

31 posted on 12/15/2013 5:15:44 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai
Let me add one more comment: Many of us on FR (the writer included) tend to get caught up in issues of truth and fact. Because we value truth we focus on truth.

The Democrats and their mainstream media focus on "perspective" and what they call the "narrative". They blow by the facts and truth and work to create a story favorable to their side. They focus on the big picture while we get caught up in the details.

Sadly, most people vote based on the general perspective the Democrat/Media presents. They don't and won't take the time to understand the issues and the details. The average voter is too lazy to dig through the details to understand what is at stake. They vote based on the "narrative" and we lose.

By the way, this is why Democrats hate Limbaugh and Drudge (among others). Limbaugh presents a "narrative" from the conservative side. Drudge provides perspective by the way he aggregates news articles on his website. Drudge's "flashbacks" are very effective in showing the hypocrisy of the leftist media.

32 posted on 12/15/2013 5:17:17 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Senator_Blutarski

A false “big picture” always crumbles.


33 posted on 12/15/2013 5:19:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Gen.Blather

A complicated game. Yes, a game of lies, deceit and maneuvering coupled with predetermined “Show Votes” for the idiots back home who are easy to fool. Isakson and Chambliss have played this game for years.

I’m done with it. I won’t vote for Isakson, nor will I vote for the Chambliss/GOP selected candidate to replace Chambliss.


34 posted on 12/15/2013 5:19:19 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Principled
I intend to be a big donor to as many conservative challengers as possible.
35 posted on 12/15/2013 5:20:01 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler
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To: Gen.Blather; Gaffer

The so true saying about power corrupts is so true. We are too far down the road, but we need term limits. It seems that very few people we send to D.C. are able to withstand the lure and stay true to why they went and to who they represent.

I think our forefathers never intended for us to be represented by people who made a living at politics, who spent their whole lives there. A political ruling class.


36 posted on 12/15/2013 5:23:13 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Gen.Blather

Karl Rove is a ruthless mercenary. If your checks clear, he’s for you.


37 posted on 12/15/2013 5:23:22 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Olog-hai
Hey, he started it. We'll see who ends it.
38 posted on 12/15/2013 5:24:20 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I’d like to be a fly on the wall in the Senate Cloakroom, or the House Gym or any of the back rooms where these traitors have their off-the-record conversations.

My guess is the word “fools,” “cattle,” and “mindless sheep” are said often.


39 posted on 12/15/2013 5:26:17 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I agree. But I also feel that the person uttering those words wasn’t always that way. They were probably starry eyed at some point in their life. D.C. is a spiritually corrupt region.


40 posted on 12/15/2013 5:45:12 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

Understood. However, it just goes to show you how shallow some people’s resolve is.

To me, there is nothing more important than doing what you said you’d do to get in that office, and to succumb to the trappings of power and importance over constituents wishes is unpardonable.


41 posted on 12/15/2013 5:50:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
I just cannot understand a man that goes against his constituents who would support him to the hilt for following through on his promises and opts to align himself...

? too many pronouns? Or maybe I need more coffee?

42 posted on 12/15/2013 5:54:14 AM PST by Principled
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To: Principled

What’s wrong with it?


43 posted on 12/15/2013 5:54:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Interesting take - thanks. Interesting to me b/c it does help explain/clarify how the issue of choice [one of my foci] affects politics. Libs do not include the choices that individuals make in their policy but conservs do.

Indeed i assert that some people do not even want choices - just be told. The world is full of people less capable than us. Don’t elect them lol


44 posted on 12/15/2013 5:58:25 AM PST by Principled
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To: Gaffer

Resolve may be shallow, but the pressure on the soul of the person must be crushing there. How many can go into the depths of hell and emerge unscathed, you know?


45 posted on 12/15/2013 6:00:23 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Gaffer

I am not trying to justify people who do this, sorry if it comes off that way. Just saying I can see why it happens. And that is why I think we should limit the amount of time that people get to spend there. Dilute the darkness that region holds of the US and the rest of the world.


46 posted on 12/15/2013 6:01:52 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: sten

I am not sure if their incompetence is more frustrating, or the fact they lie to us, and use semantics like Clinton did to try to make us believe they are actually doing something. I still can’t figure out how Ryan’s lie about keeping the sequester cuts is actually supposed to be understood.


47 posted on 12/15/2013 6:04:18 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: Gaffer
I don't know...

I just cannot understand a man [Collins?]...
that goes against his constituents [Collins goes against his constituents - I get that one I think]
... who [Collins?]
would support him [Collins?]
to the hilt for following through on his[whose?]
promises and opts to align himself... [whose self?]

48 posted on 12/15/2013 6:06:03 AM PST by Principled
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To: Yogafist
I still can’t figure out how Ryan’s lie about keeping the sequester cuts is actually supposed to be understood.

Me either. Are the costs that are breaking the sequester [63 billion?] temporary? Will this budget, when expired, revert/return spending to the sequester level that was there prior to this "deal"? That's the only way I can come close to reconciling it....

49 posted on 12/15/2013 6:11:41 AM PST by Principled
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To: Principled

My prior post was about Collins so I was talking about him, specifically. Yet, even it wasn’t about Collins, the word “man” then drives the meaning of the rest of the citations.

All the pronouns starting with “h”, refer to Collins (or ‘a man’).

‘who’ refers to ‘constituents’ (’who’ immediately following ‘constituents’).

I just didn’t feel the need to make a separate sentence for each of the referrals.


50 posted on 12/15/2013 6:16:16 AM PST by Gaffer
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