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U of M (Minnesota) crime alerts spark backlash
KARE News ^ | December 14, 2013 | Boua Xiong

Posted on 12/15/2013 8:31:45 AM PST by Zakeet

Black students at the University of Minnesota say racial descriptions in crime alerts does not help catch suspects. Instead, it's hurting black male students.

There have been more than two dozen crimes on or near the U this year.

Crime alert after crime alert describes many of the suspects as young black males.

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Ian Taylor, a junior and president of the Black Men's Forum, said many of their members have expressed concern over how other students treat them.

"You might walk a certain side of the street and someone might walk the other way or the other direction…just this feeling that people feel unsafe around you," Taylor said.

The racial descriptions are leading to racial profiling, according to Amber Jones, president of the U's Black Student Union.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: crime; minnesota; profiling; racism

It's racist to say who's committing the crime on campus!

1 posted on 12/15/2013 8:31:45 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

So bro’s, talk to your 0bama peeps and tell them to knock it off.


2 posted on 12/15/2013 8:34:27 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
"tell them to knock it off."

No, wait.... Tell something else...

3 posted on 12/15/2013 8:36:13 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Zakeet

Pretty smart thing to do to turn around if multiple young BM’s are walking my direction. Not racism it’s instinct.


4 posted on 12/15/2013 8:36:53 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Paladin2

The sex and race of the PERPS are the two best clues available!


5 posted on 12/15/2013 8:37:37 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Zakeet

I am SO offended that they put the gender of the suspect in the crime alerts. That clearly makes ALL males suspects in crimes and makes it difficult for me to go about my daily activities.

They need to put links to their gender non-discrimination policy in their crime alerts, too.

Better yet, they should just make the crime alerts read: “A suspect committed a crime.” That would be completely non-judgmental and fair to all.


6 posted on 12/15/2013 8:38:53 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Zakeet.

> Crime alert after crime alert describes many of the suspects as young black males.


7 posted on 12/15/2013 8:40:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: 2harddrive

Statistically, blacks ARE 10 times as likey as whites or Asians to commit violent crimes. If we REALLY wanted to cut violent crime, we would register them, not guns, since it is much more likely that any given black male will commit a crime, than that any given gun would be used in a crime. By like 20 times!


8 posted on 12/15/2013 8:40:36 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Zakeet

Police should only use stick figures on fliers for “have you seen this guy.”


9 posted on 12/15/2013 8:40:56 AM PST by bgill
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To: Zakeet

Why does the University of Minnesota allow racist POSs, like Ian Taylor, president of the Black Men’s Forum, and Amber Jones, president of the U’s Black Student Union, to even be on the campus? Doesn’t the University have to follow sanitation and sewage disposal regulations?


10 posted on 12/15/2013 8:43:08 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Zakeet

I’ve read several studies over the years indicating a black law enforcement officer was more likely to shoot a black male suspect than a white officer in the same circumstances. There may be a number of issues at work. One is the white officer’s fear of being called racist. Another is fearing the higher level of department and media scrutiny.

I’ve known two black men who were brutally murdered by other black men. I’ve never had a white acquaintance or friend murdered by a white man. But numerous acquaintances were assaulted by black men; including myself; twice.

So, lets resolve the racial angle in this case by announcing the race of all perps. Then, report today’s cumulative stats. That should remove any racial stigma from the reporting.


11 posted on 12/15/2013 8:45:10 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Zakeet
"You might walk a certain side of the street and someone might walk the other way or the other direction…just this feeling that people feel unsafe around you,"

That might be because people feel unsafe around you. And that might be because, statistically at least, they have a good reason. You might wanna talk to your home dawgs about why ... [HINT: it's not white racism, as much as you'd like it to be.}

12 posted on 12/15/2013 8:46:32 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Zakeet
WARNING! WARNING!

Crime Alert

Be on the lookout for the following individual, observed carrying a gun and Molotov cocktail. A description follows:

Report all sightings to the campus police.

13 posted on 12/15/2013 8:47:06 AM PST by moovova
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To: Zakeet

Stop the whining, baby crap, and stand up as a race to stop black violence and crime. Every black person in America dances to a drumbeat when a black person is perceived to be wronged by whitey, so admit that these black criminals are wronging black people, and do something. Go Trayvon crazy on them.


14 posted on 12/15/2013 8:49:19 AM PST by pallis
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Better yet, they should just make the crime alerts read: “A suspect committed a crime.” That would be completely non-judgmental and fair to all.

I disagree. That would unfairly single out people who happen to be walking alone.

It should read: “A suspect, or perhaps a group of suspects, committed a crime. We'd rather not say how large the group was, if even there was a group in the first place.”

15 posted on 12/15/2013 8:50:17 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: miliantnutcase; Zakeet
Jesse Jackson said a few years ago, "There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved."

Interesting you would post his picture Zakeet...

16 posted on 12/15/2013 8:52:08 AM PST by Syncro ("So?" - -Andrew Breitbart --The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 to Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Zakeet

“You might walk a certain side of the street and someone might walk the other way or the other direction…just this feeling that people feel unsafe around you,” Taylor said.

You’re damned right they suspect you.

You are the MF’ers doing the knock-out game. Any white that sees a group of blacks coming towards them and isn’t aware is a damned fool.

Blacks have a reputation that is well deserved, and if that hurts their feelings it’s tough Sh&t.

If you want to stop it stop the violence against whites.
Don’t blame them for being aware. They seem to like to pick on the weak—oldsters and old ladies.


17 posted on 12/15/2013 8:57:22 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Carl Vehse

It’s all part of the demise of a once great state.


18 posted on 12/15/2013 9:04:24 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Zakeet
"When a crime alert comes in everyone's like crime alert…there's another crime alert. Let him not be a black person again," Jones said.

Last week several black groups on campus wrote a letter to President Eric Kaler asking for change. Kaler responded that racial profiling will not be tolerated. He reiterated that on Friday during a board of regents meeting. Kaler said officers won't profile race but they will profile behavior.

IOW they will no longer report that perpetrators are black.

19 posted on 12/15/2013 9:08:02 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Zakeet
"You might walk a certain side of the street and someone might walk the other way or the other direction…just this feeling that people feel unsafe around you," Taylor said.

Similarly, I'm not particularly happy that statistics, experience, and common sense tell me that I should feel unsafe around groups of young black men in public.

In the meantime I'll walk on any side of the street I want.

20 posted on 12/15/2013 9:09:22 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Zakeet
Laws are coming to make it illegal to cross the street in front of black people.

God forbid we hurt the little babies' feelings.

21 posted on 12/15/2013 9:09:37 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Zakeet

U of M office of diversity mandates whites commit more crimes.


22 posted on 12/15/2013 9:10:01 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Zakeet

If racial unrest follows Zimmerman jury decision, blame it on Activist Obama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3042477/posts
This is reference to an editorial run in Canada Free Press. The Canadians got it right.! Too bad half of the so called conservatives talk show hosts I’ve been listening to can’t seem to be willing to connect the dots to what a heavy hand his imperious highness played in this example of socialist justice meted out to serve the policies of the state . Turning this into a show trial replete with wall to wall tv coverage.. Taking some poor guy of mixed race including black doing his job and painting a target on his back to fullfill a socialist agenda.


23 posted on 12/15/2013 9:12:22 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Zakeet

be on the lookout of a criminal he or she is described as either tall or short, blonde or brunette, possibly red-headed, indeterminate skin tone and age.....

yes, that’ll catch bad guys


24 posted on 12/15/2013 9:12:59 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Zakeet
Ooooh. He looka lika man

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25 posted on 12/15/2013 9:15:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Zakeet

“Crime alert after crime alert describes many of the suspects as young black males.”

Instead of complaining about facts being presented honestly, the young black males at the University need to go to the larger community that the University is part of, go into church and other settings where local blacks are represented and COMPLAIN there about what is happening in their community and maybe even ask how they can possibly help (not that they should have to, but the offer would be a gesture of good will and understanding that might lead to more cooperation).

But, to complain that to present the facts honestly is a problem is a way of just denying the problem and avoiding the problem.


26 posted on 12/15/2013 9:15:10 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Gen.Blather

“So, lets resolve the racial angle in this case by announcing the race of all perps.”

That would be unfair because there would be at least a 10:1 ratio of news stories of blacks to whites being reported as perps in crimes. That would reinforce the evil stereotype that blacks commit more violent crimes!


27 posted on 12/15/2013 9:15:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL!


28 posted on 12/15/2013 9:18:57 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Carl Vehse

Why does a public funded school encourage racism by allowing a “black men’s forum” and a “black student union” to exist on campus?


29 posted on 12/15/2013 9:24:49 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Leaning Right

No you’re talking! But I fear we are discriminating against other species here. Further refinement of the alert is needed: “ A blob of protoplasm, or perhaps a group of blobs of protoplasm, is suspected of commiting a crime. We’d rather not say how large the group was, if even there was a group in the first place.”


30 posted on 12/15/2013 9:29:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

No no no. The only truly non-racist way to report a crime is in the passive voice, Bill Clinton style. “A crime was committed...”


31 posted on 12/15/2013 9:36:49 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: TADSLOS

Miss Swan, eyewitness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OofFuzlHRnk

Can you describe the perpetrator maam.


32 posted on 12/15/2013 9:39:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

This one has all the audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKYQo3du_gQ


33 posted on 12/15/2013 9:41:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Paladin2

Resisting crime is racist.


34 posted on 12/15/2013 9:43:08 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: Zakeet
Ian Taylor, a junior and president of the Black Men's Forum, said many of their members have expressed concern over how other students treat them.

President of the Black Men's Forum complains about racism?!? What an asshat!

35 posted on 12/15/2013 9:47:25 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: 2harddrive

Let’s stop identifying people by race, says the President of the BLACK Student Union. The stupid, it burns!


36 posted on 12/15/2013 9:47:41 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: Zakeet
The racial descriptions are leading to racial profiling, according to Amber Jones, president of the U's Black Student Union.

Seriously! Does she not see the irony in her statement when she is President of the Black Student Union?

What a moronette!

37 posted on 12/15/2013 9:50:24 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Zakeet
Crime alert after crime alert describes many of the suspects as young black males.

Someone missed the memo.

They must be described as either "teens" or "youths."

38 posted on 12/15/2013 9:52:53 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Wuli
"“Crime alert after crime alert Accurately and Correctly describes many of the suspects as young black males.”"

Now that's better.

39 posted on 12/15/2013 10:19:43 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: SgtHooper

Senator haha and gov dufus.


40 posted on 12/15/2013 10:25:12 AM PST by justrepublican (Screaming a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: Zakeet

There’s only one race. So it isn’t a racial description, it’s a color.


41 posted on 12/15/2013 10:29:51 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Maybe they should include gender identity?


42 posted on 12/15/2013 10:30:50 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: fella
Why does a public funded school encourage racism by allowing a “black men’s forum” and a “black student union” to exist on campus?

It's hard to tell from the way the University of Minnesota administration acts, whether its president is Eric Kaler or Chuckles the Clown.

43 posted on 12/15/2013 12:51:00 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: Venturer
I live in an area, western Wisconsin, that has a statistically tiny pct. of black Americans. But every time there is a violent crime reported on the news or in the paper, half the time it's a young, black male. The simple fact is a much higher percentage of black males commit violent crimes than other ethnic groups. If the proper measures were taken to stop the crimes, most black males would have their constitutional rights severely restricted.

The constitution is not a suicide pact. Until somebody does something about the problem, non-blacks will continue to avoid young, black males. And it's just too bad if they're upset about being profiled. They're the ones committing the crimes.

44 posted on 12/15/2013 12:53:41 PM PST by driftless2
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Absolutely. Then the PC Police Dept. can get right to work shaking down and frisking little old blue haired ladies as soon as possible.


45 posted on 12/15/2013 1:41:51 PM PST by DPMD
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To: driftless2

It’s about to become worse.

Obama now wants schools to ignore the conduct of blacks in schools, and concentrate on whites in order to equalize suspensions. One of the most stupid things I ever heard of, it should encourage blacks to even more outrageous conduct, as they get away with bad conduct.


46 posted on 12/15/2013 2:04:39 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: miliantnutcase
Pretty smart thing to do to turn around if multiple young BM’s are walking my direction. Not racism it’s instinct.

Where I am now, a town of about 3500 souls, I do not think there are as many as half a dozen BMs. They keep a pretty low profile. There are other reasons to carry though.

47 posted on 12/15/2013 2:16:12 PM PST by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: 2harddrive

you are right and the fault is that its feral blacks doing the assaults..I rarely see the race of the ones doing the assault, so we all know its not white or asian...Obama once told his people to “get in their faces” Its ok with the president and his own brand of KKK.


48 posted on 12/15/2013 8:05:55 PM PST by goat granny
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To: justrepublican

LOL!


49 posted on 12/15/2013 8:16:37 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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