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John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: 'We are here to support your just cause'
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 12/15/2013 | Guardian Staff

Posted on 12/15/2013 3:01:27 PM PST by mac_truck

Senator John McCain on Sunday told thousands of Ukrainian protesters camped on Kiev's main square that Ukraine's destiny lay in Europe and that it would make Europe better.

"Ukraine will make Europe better and Europe will make Ukraine better," he said to crowds protesting against President Viktor Yanukovich's U-turn in trade policy away from Europe towards Russia.

"We are here to support your just cause, the sovereign right of Ukraine to determine its own destiny freely and independently. And the destiny you seek lies in Europe," said McCain, a leading Republican voice on US foreign policy.

McCain is in Ukraine with a Connecticut Democrat, Senator Chris Murphy.

Speaking to CNN on Sunday, McCain said: “What we're trying to do is try to bring about a peaceful transition here, that would stop the violence and give the Ukrainian people what they unfortunately have not had, with different revolutions that have taken place – a real society. This is a grassroots revolution here – it's been peaceful except when the government tried to crack down on them, and the government hasn't tried that since.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: gasputin; mccain; rino; russia; senatorjohnmccain; ukraine; we; whatsthiswecrap
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Fresh from posing for photos with terrorists in Syria...John McCain can't seem to help himself from meddling in the internal affairs of other countries.
1 posted on 12/15/2013 3:01:27 PM PST by mac_truck
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To: mac_truck

How about standing up for freedom here, you pathetic loser.


2 posted on 12/15/2013 3:03:02 PM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: mac_truck

Our Senators suck. Name 10 good ones.


3 posted on 12/15/2013 3:03:07 PM PST by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: mac_truck

Whose turn was it to watch that guy?


4 posted on 12/15/2013 3:03:46 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: mac_truck
Ukraine protesters to John McCain “ GO THE HELL AWAY you piece of crap ! “
5 posted on 12/15/2013 3:03:48 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: mac_truck

Bend over we’re right behind you!


6 posted on 12/15/2013 3:04:23 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: onona
" Our Senators suck. Name 10 good ones. "

Ted Cruz
7 posted on 12/15/2013 3:04:34 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: sgtyork

You got that right. Fire Chief McCain is riding to put out fires all over the world while his own house is burning down.


8 posted on 12/15/2013 3:04:55 PM PST by TheGipperWasRight
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To: mac_truck
Being an European I am amazed Ukraine wants to leave the Russian dictatorship to join the european dictatorship. Freedom in Europe is being eroded every day by non elected tyrants in Bruxelles. Every day laws are coming out of Bruxelles forbiding one thing or the other. Were I to write this in a european newspaper I would be censored and maybe reported to the police, I am not joking. STASI was a soft touch compare to the EU thought police.
9 posted on 12/15/2013 3:08:04 PM PST by Christian1
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To: mac_truck

Gee, McCain, can’t you speak up to restore individual liberty in USA or have you decided that’s a lost cause now that you “enabled” Obana’s election?


10 posted on 12/15/2013 3:08:12 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: mac_truck
"McCain is in Ukraine with a Connecticut Democrat"

Every time you hear of McCain, he's with some Democrat. He surrounds himself with Democrats. And he's been nothing but stabbed in the back by them unless he's actually helping them in their agenda. He's got to be a total idiot.
11 posted on 12/15/2013 3:09:35 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: mac_truck
Fresh from posing for photos with terrorists in Syria...

Yup. The "freedom fighters" are abandoning the country. He, the administration, and the elites of both parties wanted us to go to war in Syria for a phony cause. Why isn't anybody asking about that?

McCain should also be investigated for being on the take from Georgian mobsters. He's not gonna' rest until we are at war with Russia.

12 posted on 12/15/2013 3:09:57 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: mac_truck

Yeah, just like he supported the Iranian democracy protestors.


13 posted on 12/15/2013 3:11:19 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: onona
Our Senators suck. Name 10 good ones.

McStain is traveling with rookie Democrat Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut, whom he is apparently grooming to replace his old BFF Joe Leiberman.

14 posted on 12/15/2013 3:13:25 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck

The United States should be sympathetic to the Ukrainians, but it should not be seen as trying to snub the Russians in the process. We wouldn’t like Russia trying to wrest American nations from our trade groups.

Why can’t the Ukrainians trade with both Russia and the E. U.? Makes a lot of sense. It wouldn’t necessarily have to be confrontational either.

As usual, John McCain jumps in with both feet having left his brain at home. Arizona, once again your stupidity pays off with dividends.

This guy does more damage to our nation than any three Democrats, with the exception of Obama. But then again, McCain is doing his damnedest to surpass him too.


15 posted on 12/15/2013 3:13:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: Christian1

Correct! Actual dictatorships are far more preferable than the benign type. Bonus if the population gets the dictatorship they don’t actually want.


16 posted on 12/15/2013 3:14:31 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: DoughtyOne
Why can’t the Ukrainians trade with both Russia and the E. U.?

Because the Russians don't want it that way.

17 posted on 12/15/2013 3:16:03 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mac_truck
John McCain tells Ukraine protesters: 'We are here to support your just cause'

Translation: We are from the government and we are here to help you.

As Doctor Who would yell:

Run!!!!!!


18 posted on 12/15/2013 3:18:19 PM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: mac_truck

So even though he lost the presidency, he wants to be able to start World War Three?


19 posted on 12/15/2013 3:19:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: mac_truck

George Steinbrenner was quoted as saying he supported Yankee manager Billy Martin 100% - then he fired him. Twice.


20 posted on 12/15/2013 3:20:07 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: mac_truck

I’m convinced we would have had WWIII if McCain was President.


21 posted on 12/15/2013 3:20:31 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

Most Germans and Austrians were more then happy with the Third Reich until it came down around their heads. Even then, many still longed for it after it disappeared.


22 posted on 12/15/2013 3:21:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 1rudeboy

The first thing Russia should do, is build up better trade between itself and the E. U. It’s citizens probably need less salary, and could compete in a wholesome way.

Then they should let the Ukrainians trade as they please, and win their business.

Russia confounds me, in that they seem to think it’s going to be beneficial to cozy up to China while dissing the West. If China ever gets the upper hand against the West, Russia will be it’s first steak dinner in celebration.


23 posted on 12/15/2013 3:21:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: mac_truck

How much trouble does this communist-brainwashed idiot think it will take to take us down?


24 posted on 12/15/2013 3:22:34 PM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: dfwgator

“We are here to support your just cause...
Now gather round while I take a selfie.”


25 posted on 12/15/2013 3:22:54 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right. And if you read this thread, one would surmise that Freepers would advise Austria to choose the Third Reich.


26 posted on 12/15/2013 3:23:23 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mac_truck

I visualize a big hook catching him around the neck and yanking his pathetic butt offstage. It is WAY past time.


27 posted on 12/15/2013 3:25:26 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: mac_truck

“MacLame and Gramesty call for Obama to send in US military advisors and launch missile strikes on Ukraine in support of rebels or somebody.”


28 posted on 12/15/2013 3:25:28 PM PST by moovova
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To: mac_truck

Where are McCain’s keepers? He needs to stay home and mind his own business.


29 posted on 12/15/2013 3:25:55 PM PST by abclily
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To: DoughtyOne

What was it that Churchill said about Russia? No matter. It’s easiest to think of Russia as having a geopolitical case of penis envy. It has never gotten over the fact that the Soviet Union dissolved (for the most part).


30 posted on 12/15/2013 3:28:40 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: onona

Ted Cruz is the only one that comes to mind.


31 posted on 12/15/2013 3:35:27 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: mac_truck

The Russkies are messing in the internal affairs of the Ukraine. Ukraine separate from the Russians is better for their people.


32 posted on 12/15/2013 3:41:29 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Look at McCain’s eyes in any photo taken in the last 10 years.You get the feeling that someone else is driving.


33 posted on 12/15/2013 3:42:04 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Christian1
Being an European I am amazed Ukraine wants to leave the Russian dictatorship to join the European dictatorship. Freedom in Europe is being eroded every day by non elected tyrants in Bruxelles. Every day laws are coming out of Bruxelles forbiding one thing or the other. Were I to write this in a European newspaper I would be censored and maybe reported to the police, I am not joking. STASI was a soft touch compare to the EU thought police.

I agree with your analysis of European socialist model Christian1. It is analogous to the liberal fascism which is on the move in the United States, despite protestations to the contrary from neocon RINOs like McCain and his ilk.

34 posted on 12/15/2013 3:43:13 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Even then, many still longed for it after it disappeared.”

And they should have all been burned alive.


35 posted on 12/15/2013 3:46:38 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: mac_truck

So the next question is: what do you think of the Russian socialist model, and do you approve of it?


36 posted on 12/15/2013 3:46:53 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mac_truck

These mass protests are fun, but there remains a question. If they are the clear majority, why don’t they win another election and do what they please?

A loud noisy crowd is not a majority.


37 posted on 12/15/2013 3:50:16 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: mac_truck
'We are here to support your just cause'

Right... Remember Neda?

-PJ

38 posted on 12/15/2013 3:50:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: DesertRhino

So much for the Tea Party, then.


39 posted on 12/15/2013 3:51:07 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Why can’t Ukraine develop its own political model without external interference?

As usual, your liberal bias is showing.


40 posted on 12/15/2013 3:53:31 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: 1rudeboy

I haven’t seen TEA demanding barricading downtown DC, threatening to overthrow the government. I see them trying to win local elections and influence policy.


41 posted on 12/15/2013 3:57:20 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: mac_truck
You didn't answer my question, and cut the "as usual" crap.

Fact: Russia is meddling in Ukraine's affairs. You are "upset" that the EU is doing so. My question to you is, why do you fear one and not the other?

42 posted on 12/15/2013 3:58:07 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: American Constitutionalist

Why can’t McLame just STFU and go back to doing what does best - betraying America 24/7?


43 posted on 12/15/2013 3:58:26 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: American Constitutionalist
7 "Our Senators suck. Name 10 good ones."

1 Ted Cruz - TX

2 Jeff Sessions - AL
3 Chuck Grassley - IA
4 Jim Inhofe - OK
5 Tom Coburn - OK
6 Tim Scott - SC
7 Mike Lee - UT
8
9
10

... Anyone? Anyone?... Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?

44 posted on 12/15/2013 3:58:53 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: DesertRhino
These mass protests are fun, but there remains a question. If they are the clear majority, why don’t they win another election and do what they please?

Indeed.

The next presidential election is in 15 months and I suspect this 'spontaneous protest' is a result of the fact that the opposition is splintered and doesn't have a leader to coalesce around

45 posted on 12/15/2013 3:58:55 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: DesertRhino

Ok, I’ll grant you that. Not yet.


46 posted on 12/15/2013 3:59:39 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mac_truck
'spontaneous protest'

Cue spooky, ominous music. [Russian]

47 posted on 12/15/2013 4:01:23 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: mac_truck

Can’t Putin put this sob out of his misery and spare us listening to his rants??


48 posted on 12/15/2013 4:03:44 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: DesertRhino
Well, maybe you will see that after a US dictator kills, say ten million Southerners, and then ships millions more ethnic Mexicans into their states in order to undermine their elections and institutions, because that is exactly what Stalin did to Ukraine.

Many of the "Ukrainians" voting in these elections are ethnic Russians specifically transplanted there in order to elect Russia's Running Dogs.

McCain is an effing jackass, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

49 posted on 12/15/2013 4:05:46 PM PST by FredZarguna (Wink wink. Nudge nudge. Know what I mean? Know what I mean?)
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To: ZULU
Lol...from your lips to God's ear.

McCain has overstayed his welcome in the Republican party by about six years, but still has the liberal media, the liberal GOP-e, and wealthy corporate sponsors in his corner.

It may in fact take an act of God to get him out of the US Senate.

50 posted on 12/15/2013 4:13:27 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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