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Are we living in a HOLOGRAM? Physicists believe our universe just a projection of another cosmos
Daily Mail ^ | December 12, 2013 | ELLIE ZOLFAGHARIFARD

Posted on 12/16/2013 3:47:30 AM PST by NYer

The universe is a hologram and everything you can see - including this article and the device you are reading it on - is a mere projection.

This is according to a controversial model proposed in 1997 by theoretical physicist Juan Maldacena.

Until now the bizarre theory had never been tested, but recent mathematical models suggest that the mind-boggling principle could be true.

Professor Maldacena's model suggests that the universe exists in nine dimensions of space and one of time.

Now Japanese researchers have attempted to tackle this problem by providing mathematical evidence that the holographic principle might be correct, according to a report in Nature.


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aquarianconspiracy; bullshootontoast; cosmos; hologram; ifyoulikebsyoucan; juanmaldacena; karlpibram; marilynferguson; ornot; physics; progressiveathiest; stringtheory; tellmeastory
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A growing black hole

The holographic model suggests gravity in the universe comes from thin, vibrating strings. These strings are holograms of events that take place in a simpler, flatter cosmos

According to the theory, gravity in the universe comes from thin, vibrating strings. These strings are holograms of events that take place in a simpler, flatter cosmos.

 

1 posted on 12/16/2013 3:47:30 AM PST by NYer
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To: SunkenCiv

THE HOLOGRAPHIC PRINCIPLE

The holographic principle claims gravity in the universe comes from thin, vibrating strings.

These strings are holograms of events that take place in a simpler, flatter cosmos.

The principle suggests that, like the security chip on your credit card, there is a two-dimensional surface that contains all the information needed to describe a three-dimensional object - which in this case is our universe.

In essence, the theory claims that data containing a description of a volume of space - such as a human or a comet - could be hidden in a region of this flattened, 'real' version of the universe.

In a black hole, for instance, all the objects that ever fall into it would be entirely contained in surface fluctuations, almost like a piece of computer memory on contained in a chip.

In a larger sense, the theory suggests that the entire universe can be seen as a 'two-dimensional structure projected onto a cosmological horizon' - or in simpler terms, a projection.

If we could understand the laws that govern physics on that distant surface, the principle suggests we would grasp all there is to know about reality.


2 posted on 12/16/2013 3:48:06 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

I’m no scientest but this sounds like something from Rod Serling.


3 posted on 12/16/2013 3:51:49 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: NYer

Another one claiming we don’t really exist. pffft


4 posted on 12/16/2013 3:53:13 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: NYer

The concepts of dimension and orthogonality are constructs, a consequence of the human way of perceiving the universe. They are valid perceptions but are also limited, and perhaps limiting.


5 posted on 12/16/2013 3:57:13 AM PST by oblomov
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To: NYer

Sounds pretty ridiculous...please don’t tell me people get paid for this nonsense.


6 posted on 12/16/2013 3:57:55 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: Darksheare; Monkey Face; Tax-chick; no-to-illegals; NoCmpromiz; fanfan; ColdOne; Cyber Liberty; ...
This needs UT analysis...Ping...
7 posted on 12/16/2013 3:59:45 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: NYer

Physicists don’t necessarily believe this. Its one theory among many and it doesn’t make much sense to me or them.


8 posted on 12/16/2013 4:00:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Viennacon

...or Plato’s cave wall .


9 posted on 12/16/2013 4:04:01 AM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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To: NYer

I saw this movie......it was called The Matrix....


10 posted on 12/16/2013 4:08:08 AM PST by cincinnati65
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To: NYer

If we position a mirror correctly can we shoot the image of Barack Obama back into the ether toward his real home planet?


11 posted on 12/16/2013 4:10:57 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: cincinnati65

Take the red pill.....


12 posted on 12/16/2013 4:12:21 AM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: NYer

You are living in a dream world Neo.

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13 posted on 12/16/2013 4:14:29 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: NYer

bookmark


14 posted on 12/16/2013 4:16:36 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: NYer

Let my buddy east some Brussels Sprouts and these brainiacs would know that the only projection in their face would be the lethal gasses from my buddy,


15 posted on 12/16/2013 4:17:35 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Graybeard58
Rod Serling?

Sounds more like Plato.

16 posted on 12/16/2013 4:18:54 AM PST by Pietro
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To: NYer

I am reminded why I became a life scientist, not a physicist.


17 posted on 12/16/2013 4:19:28 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: LibLieSlayer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93vCjygOhzA


18 posted on 12/16/2013 4:26:19 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: NYer

As a Christian I see this life as a sort of videogame. It “feels” real, but it is not “the” reality. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have consequences, but since I’ve embraced the “matrix” concept since I saw the movie, this would not surprise me.

When talking to children about reality, it’s fun to point out that reality really is only perception. After all, the atoms in your hand never really touch the atoms of the keys on the keyboard. It only feels like it. If they actually touched, bad things could happen. And what you see is nothing but light bouncing off other atoms and interpreted by your brain, via what sends the signal there, as solid objects, etc.

And everything is mostly empty space, dispite it looks quite hard and if some things “hit” you hard enough, it’s game over.

I think this whole “reality isn’t what we think it is” meme is closer to the truth than we think. Truth be told, I think it is actively held together by God and when he decides to blink, it will all go away, in the way described in biblical prophesy.

That’s why I think it is so “cute” when anti-Christian “scientists” argue that religion isn’t science. No, it’s not. It is a much higher pursuit than science.


19 posted on 12/16/2013 4:29:58 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: NYer
Physicists believe our universe just a projection of another cosmos

I think the headline is a bit sensationalistic. As if all physicists believe this pap.

20 posted on 12/16/2013 4:30:33 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Viennacon

Like something out of an Ayn Rand novel. Scientists who declare that nothing is real, therefore morality is fake too.


21 posted on 12/16/2013 4:31:34 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Vermont Lt

In my prison ministry band, I did a solo act as morpheus, talking to the prisoners. It began with “Let me tell you why you’re here.” and continues with his “red-pill, blue-pill” monologue, but segued to the Christian message. That is, Christians took the red pill and see this world for the very temporary thing that it is, while focusing on the real - eternity.

I believe it is highly likely that this theory is closer to reality than what most people believe about reality.


22 posted on 12/16/2013 4:34:33 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: NYer
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23 posted on 12/16/2013 4:35:28 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Imgine there’s no liberals.... they are all holograms....


24 posted on 12/16/2013 4:36:32 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
Phazers locked on light bee, fire when ready!
25 posted on 12/16/2013 4:47:50 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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To: Pietro

Great minds...


26 posted on 12/16/2013 4:48:41 AM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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To: NYer

Well I know since about 2007 I have felt like I slipped into another dimension. That or the Twilight Zone .


27 posted on 12/16/2013 4:49:00 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: NYer

Most people get enough of acid by the time they graduate college.


28 posted on 12/16/2013 4:50:53 AM PST by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of "gun free zones"?)
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To: NYer

It’s easier to believe in a Higher Power than it is to go with this concept.


29 posted on 12/16/2013 5:00:33 AM PST by Makana (Old soldiers never die. They just read Free Republic.)
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To: moose07

can phazers harm a being of light?


30 posted on 12/16/2013 5:00:42 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: I-ambush
Indeed. I didn't see your post until after I posted my comment but the idea is eerily like Plato's shadow theatre.

You may be interested in a book I just finished called "The Self-Aware Universe" which goes on in depth w/ Plato's observation (and many other things of course).

Nice handle by the way.

31 posted on 12/16/2013 5:02:04 AM PST by Pietro
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To: NYer

bump


32 posted on 12/16/2013 5:11:04 AM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: NYer
"Professor Maldacena's model suggests that the universe exists in nine dimensions of space and one of time."

NINE dimensions??? What a piker.

MY theory is that there are 172 dimensions of space, and Professor Maldacena's model is merely a holographic projection from MY universe.

33 posted on 12/16/2013 5:12:58 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: cripplecreek

Projected buses, cars and trucks sure hurt when they hit you.


34 posted on 12/16/2013 5:17:50 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Take out the trash)
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To: GeronL

Hit the projector.
They did on Red Dwarf.


35 posted on 12/16/2013 5:22:00 AM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. This is not the post you are looking for ....move along now....)
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I saw this movie......it was called The Matrix....

I prefer the original. All is the mind of God. I Am. So yes, if "holographic projection" is the terminology that makes you more comfortable, you guys go with it.

36 posted on 12/16/2013 5:22:45 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Makana
It’s easier to believe in a Higher Power than it is to go with this concept.

Correctamundo. Folks tie their non-belief systems into pretzels to avoid believing the Truth of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Hard to know whether to laugh or to cry.
37 posted on 12/16/2013 5:25:56 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: norwaypinesavage
"Professor Maldacena's model suggests that the universe exists in nine dimensions of space and one of time."

NINE dimensions??? What a piker.

MY theory is that there are 172 dimensions of space, and Professor Maldacena's model is merely a holographic projection from MY universe.

The excellant book "The Elegant Universe" demonstrates using math how there are 11 dimensions that comprise space-time.

38 posted on 12/16/2013 5:26:19 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: moose07

lol


39 posted on 12/16/2013 5:27:01 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: NYer

Sure, the Universe may be holographic, but history is fractal!


40 posted on 12/16/2013 5:27:16 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: NYer

“Gravity comes from thin, vibrating strings.”
We live on a ukulele.


41 posted on 12/16/2013 5:28:10 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Pietro

Thanks; I joined FR during the 2000 recount debacle. Sounds like an interesting book,will look it up.


42 posted on 12/16/2013 5:29:40 AM PST by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning.)
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To: NYer
There is a scene in Animal house where some of the youths and Donald Sutherland are smoking dope. They have a conversation that has a similar tone.
43 posted on 12/16/2013 5:32:09 AM PST by Gamecock (There are not just two ways to respond to God but three: irreligion, religion, and the gospel. (TK))
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To: exPBRrat

Boob implants = The cure for a two dimensional world! ;-)


44 posted on 12/16/2013 5:36:00 AM PST by Average Al
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To: NYer
From Fantastic Voyage, by Isaac Asimov. Published in 1966:

"... Miniaturization is quite possible, but by neither method you have described. Have you ever seen a photograph enlarged, Mr. Grant? Or reduced to microfilm size?"

"Of course."

"Without theory, then, I tell you that the same process can be used on three-dimensional objects; even on a man. We are miniaturized, not as literal objects, but as images; as three-dimensional images manipulated from outside the universe of space-time."

Grant smiled. "Now, teacher, those are just words."


45 posted on 12/16/2013 5:45:40 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: NYer

I personally think gravity is the key to a lot of our questions. Its my opinion that we think of gravity all wrong.

Watching a show about black holes this morning and it struck me that maybe gravity is faster than the speed of light. If a black hole can overcome the 186,000 miles per second of light, maybe its pulling it faster in the opposite direction.

Just morning ponderin.


46 posted on 12/16/2013 5:51:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cuban leaf
I think this whole “reality isn’t what we think it is” meme is closer to the truth than we think. Truth be told, I think it is actively held together by God and when he decides to blink, it will all go away, in the way described in biblical prophesy.

Here's something to meditate on: at the same time that Christ was dying in agony on the cross, and saying "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do," He was willing into existence the nails that were holding Him to the wood.

47 posted on 12/16/2013 6:02:34 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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“a theory that has never been tested”

That doesn’t sound much like a theory at all really. If its untestable …is it actually science? or some vague philosophy based off our admittedly limit knowledge? While I don’t claim to understand the math involved , if its non-testable its not actually science.


48 posted on 12/16/2013 6:02:54 AM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: COBOL2Java

Here’s something to meditate on: at the same time that Christ was dying in agony on the cross, and saying “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do,” He was willing into existence the nails that were holding Him to the wood.


Relative to our timeline, yep.


49 posted on 12/16/2013 6:04:58 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: COBOL2Java

Wow, what a thought! He loves us more than we can think or imagine! Wow!


50 posted on 12/16/2013 6:09:46 AM PST by Resettozero
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