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LAPD Chief Discusses Investigation Of Corvette Driver Killed By Police
CBSLA.com) ^ | December 16, 2013 7:27 PM | Dave Lopez

Posted on 12/16/2013 9:14:42 PM PST by BenLurkin

LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — Family members claim LAPD officers did not need to open fire on Brian Beaird, a disabled veteran who was killed in Downtown LA Friday after leading police on a high-speed pursuit.

Police Chief Charlie Beck spoke about the investigation Monday and insisted events that night may have appeared more threatening from an officer’s perspective.

“I reserve judgment. You know, I’ve been doing this a long time and you have to know what’s in the minds of the officers, you have to know what they know,” Beck said. “You have to remember that whatever you’re seeing is not the point of view of the officers; it’s very different to see something from 1,200 feet, from a helicopter, rather than 15 feet away in the dust and the noise.”

Beaird, allegedly drunk, led police on an hour-long pursuit before crashing his silver Corvette into another vehicle and a fire hydrant. The collision occurred near the intersection of Olympic Boulevard and Los Angeles Street.

He reportedly tried to exit his car and was shot by officers.

A law enforcement source told CBS2/KCAL9 reporter Dave Lopez that when Beaird got out of the car an officer shot him with a bean bag without alerting the other officers. The other officers allegedly heard that and mistook it as a gunshot coming from Beaird, prompting them to open fire. “Right now that kind of stuff is speculation. Now, speculation isn’t always wrong, but I’m not going to confirm any of that, and we’re going to work through this,” Beck said.

“…Does it happen very often that a bean bag is fired and that triggers that,” Lopez said to Beck.

“I’m speaking very generally here: We have absolute protocols to prevent that. Before an officer discharges a bean bag the protocol is for them to loudly state, ‘Bean bag ready. Bean bag ready,’ so that everybody knows that the detonation they hear is not a gunshot,” Beck said.

The big question is whether the first officer yelled “bean bag” before firing.

“We’re pretty angry. It didn’t seem that there was justification for what happened,” said Beaird’s brother John in a phone interview.

He said his brother called during the pursuit and said he couldn’t understand why the police were after him.

Beck says there will be a full investigation: “These things take some amount of time and we work through them very thoroughly.”

In the meantime, the officers involved in the shooting have been reassigned to desk duty.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 12/16/2013 9:14:42 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Of course, nothing will happen to any of them, no marks on their records at all.


2 posted on 12/16/2013 9:18:07 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: BenLurkin

Just gotta love those third world death squads!


3 posted on 12/16/2013 9:18:57 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

They are damn good at what they do also.


4 posted on 12/16/2013 9:21:37 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: BenLurkin
it’s very different to see something from 1,200 feet, from a helicopter, rather than 15 feet away in the dust and the noise.”

OK, release the dash-cam videos from the 38 police cars on scene.

5 posted on 12/16/2013 9:22:58 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Perhaps this fine upstanding citizen shouldn’t have gone on a rampage.


6 posted on 12/16/2013 9:22:58 PM PST by sagar
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To: BenLurkin

How is this situation different from Rodney King? We had riots and outrage because a man who led police on a chase was beaten by police, and in this case we have them openly assasinating a man who led police on a chase. Our procedures have become noticably more military in the years sinceRodney King.


7 posted on 12/16/2013 9:23:45 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: sagar

You didn’t watch the video did you?


8 posted on 12/16/2013 9:24:06 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: BenLurkin

Assclowns. We are on our own.


9 posted on 12/16/2013 9:25:49 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: BenLurkin
In the meantime, the officers involved in the shooting have been reassigned to desk duty.

I pity the mail room guy if any of them should mistakenly get someone else's mail.

10 posted on 12/16/2013 9:28:00 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: BenLurkin

About time to get a dog from the shelter. An ugly, mean one that I won’t get too attached to.


11 posted on 12/16/2013 9:31:37 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: null and void

It don’t take them long does it?


12 posted on 12/16/2013 9:35:21 PM PST by sport
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To: bobby.223

They keep getting away with it. Not only do they get away with it, they have a cult like following on this forum to defend, no matter how repugnant, their actions.


13 posted on 12/16/2013 9:37:51 PM PST by sport
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To: sport; Alaska Wolf

Which reminds me...


14 posted on 12/16/2013 9:38:36 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: sagar; null and void; Jack Hydrazine; wastedyears

Local news copter video of chase and end of chase

The shooting takes place at about the 21 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug5KXzpbf9M


15 posted on 12/16/2013 9:39:26 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Eagles6

I’m waiting for them to clone saber toothed tigers. I still have to figure out how to get it to bark.


16 posted on 12/16/2013 9:39:37 PM PST by meatloaf
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks!


17 posted on 12/16/2013 9:41:00 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: sagar

A nine-step rampage at that!


18 posted on 12/16/2013 9:43:28 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: sagar

So your reasoning is, “if he causes the police to pursue him, they’re justified in killing him”?

That’s so unfortunate.


19 posted on 12/16/2013 9:44:20 PM PST by This Just In
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To: Vince Ferrer

One CHP officer had King in her sights as he charged her. She did not shoot him (probably because there were so many officers circled around) but had she done so the Rodney King riots probably wouldn’t have happened.


20 posted on 12/16/2013 9:44:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: null and void

How are the two people in the car he t-boned doing?


21 posted on 12/16/2013 9:45:26 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

The ones that ran the red light? Haven’t heard a word about them.


22 posted on 12/16/2013 9:47:18 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: BenLurkin
Execution. No way around that video, no "too grainy to see clearly" crap.

The guy wanted to get away from the cops, for very good reason, they were itching to kill something or someone, and they got their jollies off.

No doubt more than a few drinks were hoisted at the local cop bar later on, like after Rodney King: "We hit a few homers off you"

23 posted on 12/16/2013 9:50:30 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: sport

One of that cult’s charter members got the ZOT last month. They do not appear to mind that our Constitution is being shredded by these out of control cops. In fact, some sound like it is time it was. I’m thinking it is gonna get a heck of a lot worse before it gets any better also. 2014 could very well be the year the ‘Big Reset’ begins...in full.


24 posted on 12/16/2013 9:53:40 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: null and void

How do you know they ran a red light?


25 posted on 12/16/2013 9:54:34 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: sport

Nope, it sure does not. Lick....slurp....lick....slup...lick...slurp.


26 posted on 12/16/2013 9:55:48 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: Moonman62

It’s on the video. Of course he ran plenty getting to them.

He was VERY fortunate not to have caused deaths prior to running into them.


27 posted on 12/16/2013 9:56:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Exactly what time is it on the video where we can see the light and know for certain it was red when they ran it?


28 posted on 12/16/2013 9:59:03 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: Moonman62

Watch the video. The traffic signals are clearly visible.

Not that their running a red light makes T-boning them OK, but if you watch the video, you’ll see a few times early in the chase when the murdered driver runs red lights he first slows way down to make sure it is safe.

That we haven’t heard a peep about the other driver makes e wonder about things, like his sobriety, his immigration status, and whether he or she even has a driver license.

Not that any of those factors would make it OK for the murdered driver to T-bone them either.


29 posted on 12/16/2013 10:01:42 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

Can you answer my post #28?


30 posted on 12/16/2013 10:05:07 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: bramps

I’m going out on a limb here, but I bet it was right before/during the crash, doncha think?


31 posted on 12/16/2013 10:07:01 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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>> The other officers allegedly heard that and mistook it as a gunshot coming from Beaird, prompting them to open fire.

I don’t believe they were mistaken, but I can imagine the other cops reacting impulsively to the sound of the initial gunshot. I suspect this happens frequently.


32 posted on 12/16/2013 10:10:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: null and void

You’re the one who’s insisting the other car ran the red light. What time is it on the video when you can see the red light that they ran? Simple question. Thanks.


33 posted on 12/16/2013 10:10:38 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: bramps

See post #15, maybe you can get it to load.

Or try

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug5KXzpbf9M&t=21m

I’d be more precise, but...


34 posted on 12/16/2013 10:12:23 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

“You didn’t watch the video did you?”

I watched it, and he endangered a bunch of innocent people.

Whatever the finish was, he earned it. He caused it.


35 posted on 12/16/2013 10:15:15 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: BenLurkin
A law enforcement source told CBS2/KCAL9 reporter Dave Lopez that when Beaird got out of the car an officer shot him with a bean bag without alerting the other officers. The other officers allegedly heard that and mistook it as a gunshot coming from Beaird, prompting them to open fire.

Chain shoot...This is what I speculated about on the other thread...

Call it what they want, if the suspect was unarmed when shot to death, the cops were way wrong here and basically murdered the suspect.

36 posted on 12/16/2013 10:15:55 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: null and void

but what....??? You’re not being precise because you made an accusation you can’t back up.


37 posted on 12/16/2013 10:17:26 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: bramps; null and void

The red light don’t matter a bit here as the suspect was not in a vehicle when shot to death.

If the suspect was unarmed when shot to death, the cops were way wrong here and basically murdered the suspect.


38 posted on 12/16/2013 10:18:55 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: BenLurkin
The cops shot him JUST BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK!

Oh, wait. Damn. Well, screw it, it might have been true, and that's good enough for any progressive.

The cops shot him JUST BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK!

39 posted on 12/16/2013 10:20:08 PM PST by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: TChad

No sale, his color don’t matter.

If the suspect was unarmed when shot to death, the cops were way wrong here and basically murdered the suspect.


40 posted on 12/16/2013 10:21:10 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
No sale, his color don’t matter.

His color doesn't matter only because he was white.

41 posted on 12/16/2013 10:22:32 PM PST by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: dragnet2

Your suspect is called the fleeing felon.


42 posted on 12/16/2013 10:23:44 PM PST by Domangart
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To: dragnet2

The red light matters to the innocent people this drunk hit. Null and void, and maybe you, is so desperate to sanctify the guy he makes up facts when it’s very possible the guy he and you are defending killed one or two innocent people. My point is you’re doing the same thing you’re accusing the cops of. Making up facts in a case of life and death.


43 posted on 12/16/2013 10:25:18 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: Domangart

Call the suspect what ya want.

If the suspect was unarmed when shot to death, the cops were way wrong here and basically murdered the suspect.


44 posted on 12/16/2013 10:27:45 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bramps
The red light matters

No, wrong...The red lights and pursuit have nothing to do with the shooting that followed the pursuit.

45 posted on 12/16/2013 10:29:06 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bramps
My point is you’re doing the same thing you’re accusing the cops of. Making up facts in a case of life and death.

Quote what I am allegedly making up...

Take your time.

46 posted on 12/16/2013 10:32:27 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: bramps

“Exactly what time is it on the video where we can see the light and know for certain it was red when they ran it?”

If I have this right, he T-boned the other car at about 20:37; at about 20:57 you can see (barely) that he has the green light; at about 21:01 the light going his way turns yellow.

Depending on the timing of the lights, it seems possible the other car could have run a red light.

But exactly? For sure? I don’t know.


47 posted on 12/16/2013 10:33:52 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: dragnet2

Do you have any idea what the word murder means?


48 posted on 12/16/2013 10:34:13 PM PST by Domangart
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To: bramps

Are you Alaska Wolf under another name?


49 posted on 12/16/2013 10:35:03 PM PST by sport
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To: dragnet2

The red light matters in the argument you butted into. I was just defending an innocent driver that got plowed into by the ‘hero’ to most in this thread.


50 posted on 12/16/2013 10:35:23 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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