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Mall at Short Hills victim defending wife from carjackers when shot: source
NY Daily News ^

Posted on 12/17/2013 4:56:07 AM PST by bryan999

The lawyer killed by carjackers at an upscale New Jersey mall gave up his life to protect his wife.

Dustin Friedland had just let his beloved spouse Jamie into their luxury SUV, packed with holiday gifts. He was walking around to the driver’s side when two crooks ambushed him and demanded his keys, a source close to the investigation told the Daily News.

“He knew his wife was in there and he refused,” the source said Monday. The brave Hoboken attorney resisted — and in the struggle four shots were fired, one of which mortally wounded Friedland, police said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: friedland

1 posted on 12/17/2013 4:56:07 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999
A murder in the parking garage is the worst thing that can happen at that shopping mall.

The second-worst thing that could happen is that news stories are plastered all over the media telling the public that two black men were seen at the Short Hills Mall.

Seriously -- From what I've seen, I don't think the management of that mall would even be comfortable with Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman walking around there.

2 posted on 12/17/2013 4:58:38 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: bryan999

Any description of the criminals?


3 posted on 12/17/2013 5:04:39 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Alberta's Child

One of the first articles I read about the carjacking/murder, ID’d the two as “black men”. That reference was scrubbed later in the morning.


4 posted on 12/17/2013 5:05:11 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I am familiar with that mall. It is a direct shot down to Newark which one would arguably call the Oakland of the East. Besides that, it is not far removed from various black communities, some of which are affluent, so assuming blacks don’t shop there would be a misstake. Not all blacks are criminals, those who live near that mall more than likely are as far removed from the rable that populates Newark as are Obama and the truth.


5 posted on 12/17/2013 5:05:39 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: bryan999

But, but, but New Jersey is a gun free zone, for everyone except the outlaws.


6 posted on 12/17/2013 5:06:47 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Alberta's Child

I’ve been to that mall dozens and dozens of times. I don’t know what the solution is here, but that mall does have what I thought was pretty high tech security.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the cops know exactly who and where these fools are by now... The green Suburu and its license plate must have have been caught on camera, but there has been scant mention of that in any of the articles I’ve been reading.

Hang ‘em high !!! (oh wait - this is New Jersey)


7 posted on 12/17/2013 5:07:09 AM PST by bryan999
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To: bryan999

Thank goodness NJ doesn’t permit that wild redneck concealed pistol business, or the wealth redistributors might also have been killed.


8 posted on 12/17/2013 5:07:28 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Alberta's Child

Tell only problem I see is that NJ doesn’t allow CC, had this man been allowed to defend his wife with a firearm the results may have been different, in fact they may not have tired to rob him at all had they known that he may have a firearm...


9 posted on 12/17/2013 5:08:33 AM PST by stockpirate (It appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing......)
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To: bryan999

If only nj wasn’t a communist state and did not trash the Second Amendment... amongst others. I will never again set foot in ny or nj.


10 posted on 12/17/2013 5:10:49 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Any description of the criminals?

From the video footage:


11 posted on 12/17/2013 5:12:06 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Note: That was a joke...


12 posted on 12/17/2013 5:12:43 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: bryan999

I was once aked why I would carry a gun to a shopping mall. My answer was so that I’d be armed when got back to the parking lot.


13 posted on 12/17/2013 5:15:39 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: bryan999

Strange how you can read an article such as this and know the perps are black, at the same time you can also know the victims are white.

Although it is a presumption, it is one that is remarkably accurate up to around 80 to 90 percentile.

Please don’t ask for link to some study, it is just my personal observation, I did consider changing the you’s to I’s, in my comment, but decided to let it stand.


14 posted on 12/17/2013 5:16:16 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: stockpirate

Tell only problem I see is that NJ doesn’t allow CC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Who really give a sweet eff? People be carryin’ now no matter what de law say. The 2nd amendment cover it, mawn.One concealed in de car and one in de back pocket.

And a 12 ga in de covered floor bracket.

Up wif de counter revolushun, mawn!


15 posted on 12/17/2013 5:16:35 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: freedumb2003

Why couldn’t you just let him figure it out for himself?


16 posted on 12/17/2013 5:17:40 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: bryan999

Too bad that subjects in New Jersey aren’t allowed all of the free rights of a citizen. The man could have had a fighting chance.

The law in New Jersey states that people must show “justifiable need” if they want permits to carry handguns.

Any guesses whether the state would have deemed this lawyer to have “justifiable need” 5 minutes before the shooting.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 5:17:49 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: PoloSec

Interracial violent crimes ARE (according to stats) 90% as you describe.


18 posted on 12/17/2013 5:22:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: umgud

Nice comment. Sunday late AM we were going to HH Greg in Jacksonville. I always have at least a handgun in the car and sometimes take it with me. Saturday was one such time. As we pulled up to the store, the virtually empty parking lot contained one obviously mentally unstable BMA walking haphazardly across it. As I exited the car, put the gun on, and my wife was curious why. I asked her did she not see the guy who just walked by and she said yes but he is 50 yards away and going away. I said what would stop him from being here when we come out with our purchase? Conversation over.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 5:22:54 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: umgud

My wife always gives me the evil eye when we are out shopping and she puts her arm around me and realizes I’m carrying.


20 posted on 12/17/2013 5:23:35 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: mazda77

In today’s world you must be prepared to defend yourself against deadly force. The fools in government want us to be defenseless against these feral animals. Screw the concealed carry laws. Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”


21 posted on 12/17/2013 5:25:05 AM PST by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: bryan999
The brave Hoboken attorney resisted

Taking on two armed men while unarmed and single-handedly is not very smart. A car and some Christmas gifts are not worth you life. Unless the wife was directly threatened he should have just let them have the car.

That being said all real Men need to know how to defend themselves with and without arms so if do have to take on two armed men you have half a chance. Decent Men should exercise their right to carry firearms at all times and its absolute tyranny for States like New Joisey to deny that right.

These sons of Obama are not decent Men. Being a Man has nothing to do with age or gender. Being a Man is a responsibility and duty. All Men may be created equal but not all males are Men. These sons of Obama have no business running loose in a civilized society. They deserve the gallows but really, going after them now is too late.

22 posted on 12/17/2013 5:29:07 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Maybe now she’ll thank you.


23 posted on 12/17/2013 5:30:13 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: bryan999

Update us if they ever, you know, get around to giving a description of the two perps.

I despise the idiot media in this country.


24 posted on 12/17/2013 5:37:23 AM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: bryan999

One less lawyer.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 5:42:09 AM PST by Tupelo
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To: bryan999

Once they find these two bastards - and find them they will - my guess is it will be the SAME story repeated again and again in “minority” communities.

A sperm donor provided germ cells to a receptor female who then produced these two bastards in a one family household with no strong male father figure to provide guidance on right and wrong. Then the two bastards gravitated towards a surrogate “father-family figure” - the street gang. And the street gang provided the kind of “value” system which led to this.

I could be wrong, but that is my suspicion. And if, so, once again, the “playboy philosophy” - the idea that sex is just an indoor parlour game - has claimed another victim.

And just as massive drug abuse had its origins in the “minority community”, and left unchecked there and then spread to the wider national stage, so is this new contagion.


26 posted on 12/17/2013 5:42:18 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: PoloSec

Although it is a presumption, it is one that is remarkably accurate up to around 80 to 90 percentile.”

...more like 98%.


27 posted on 12/17/2013 5:45:47 AM PST by albie
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To: freedumb2003

ROTFLMAO!


28 posted on 12/17/2013 5:47:16 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: umgud
I was once aked why I would carry a gun to a shopping mall. My answer was so that I’d be armed when got back to the parking lot.

I carry everywhere I legally can. In a parking lot, especially a parking garage, I am 100% into situational awareness. I walk down the center of the lanes, a good 10 to 12 feet from the vehicles on either side. That means anyone rushing out from between vehicles has more ground to cover and I have a critical second or so to react. They will have enough momentum that a simple move puts them past you and on the ground. I also listen and check six in windows of vehicles. Look around before walking between cars to get to yours - you don't want to get caught in a confined space. Check for occupants in the vehicle next to yours (or yours) before getting close. If there are people in the car next to yours (drivers side), or a van - get in on the passenger side, relock doors, and then slide over. If you're right handed (shooting), keep that right hand free. Carry packages in your left hand, be comfortable with the idea of dropping them (regardless of contents) to free both hands to operate your weapon. Get comfortable with using your left hand to unlock and open your car door without fumbling. Learn to shoot equally well (at least close up) with your left hand. Steel yourself to the notion of going from pleasant day at the mall to full I'll-put-you-in-a-body-bag SOB mode in about 0.25 seconds if/when called for. Better to offend someone by taking preventative steps (yeah, that's right, I changed direction so as not to have to walk near you, get over it) than end up in a body bag yourself.

29 posted on 12/17/2013 5:50:31 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: albie
...more like 98%.

Roger that. That's been my experience too.

30 posted on 12/17/2013 5:52:07 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
My wife always gives me the evil eye when we are out shopping and she puts her arm around me and realizes I’m carrying.

My wife asks why I'm not carrying if she doesn't see me putting it on.

31 posted on 12/17/2013 5:56:55 AM PST by CPOSharky (If a libtards lips are moving...)
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To: bryan999

Again and again. Protecting the democrat’s most loyal voters.


32 posted on 12/17/2013 6:12:14 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

A car and some Christmas gifts are not worth you life. Unless the wife was directly threatened he should have just let them have the car.

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His wife was in the car in the passenger seat, probably already buckled in. The husband was accosted when he got around to the driver side door. According to the article, he made the decision not to give the car to the perps Because his wife was in the car! Brave man!


33 posted on 12/17/2013 6:13:11 AM PST by maica (We are seeing an interesting mixture of malice and incompetence at healthcare.gov)
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To: maica
His wife was in the car in the passenger seat, probably already buckled in. The husband was accosted when he got around to the driver side door. According to the article, he made the decision not to give the car to the perps Because his wife was in the car! Brave man!

I said as much on a thread yesterday. He hesitated because of his wife's safety.

That hesitation was perceived as a threat and boom, he's dead.

34 posted on 12/17/2013 6:24:22 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: Tupelo

Are you always an insensitive idiot?


35 posted on 12/17/2013 6:36:55 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: bryan999

This is the reason Stage Coaches had someone ride “shot gun”


36 posted on 12/17/2013 6:53:26 AM PST by just me (We are taking our first steps into a thousand years of darkness)
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To: bryan999

No question but there are high quality pictures of these guys - from every angle. License plate of the other car too. They probably have the footage of the assault itself. They know exactly who did it. They want to nail the whole ring, not just these two perps.


37 posted on 12/17/2013 7:32:11 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: bryan999
But but but Noo Jersey is a gun free zone! NOBODY has the right to even TOUCH a gun without a pure-dee gummint PERMIT! How could this happen?

Crispy Creme has this woman's BLOOD ON HIS HANDS.

38 posted on 12/17/2013 7:47:11 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: umgud

***I was once asked why I would carry a gun to a shopping mall.***

Over the years, my wife’s mother, niece, niece’s mother-in-law, and one of my co-workers have all been accosted or robbed in mall parking lots in Tulsa, OKC, and Dallas.

That is why they finally left the big cities for smaller towns.

Any time I go to these towns, I’m, well, never mind.


39 posted on 12/17/2013 8:01:14 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

There is no downside to being cautious or even paranoid.


40 posted on 12/17/2013 8:11:35 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Mouton

Several years ago, at a local store, I left with my goods and put them in my truck.

In another parking isle there was a woman placing her items in the trunk of her car, and a ner-do-well close by looking on.

I could tell the woman was nervous so I simply walked around and leaned against my truck and stared at the ner-do-well till the woman left.


41 posted on 12/17/2013 8:14:12 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Good move. We need more involved citizens like you.


42 posted on 12/17/2013 8:27:06 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: umgud
There is no downside to being cautious or even paranoid.

Google the "color code of mental awareness". Then share with everyone you love.

43 posted on 12/17/2013 8:57:19 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Shane
The fools in government want us to be defenseless against their jackbooted thugs and these feral animals
44 posted on 12/17/2013 11:42:20 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

>>Why couldn’t you just let him figure it out for himself?<<

A rare moment of kindness on my part. It probably won’t happen again.


45 posted on 12/17/2013 2:30:23 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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