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EXCLUSIVE: 2 survivors in Molokai plane crash speak out
KITV Channel 4 News ^ | Dec 12, 2013 3:26 PM HST | KITV Channel 4 News

Posted on 12/17/2013 8:00:15 AM PST by WhiskeyX

Two survivors of the plane crash off Molokai were sitting directly behind Hawaii Department of Health Director Loretta Fuddy when the aircraft went down Wednesday afternoon. Fuddy died in the crash.

(Excerpt) Read more at kitv.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: crash; fuddy; naturalborncitizen; planecrash; rescue; survivors
Features an interview with survivors, Rosa and Jacob Key, seated in the passenger aircraft behing Loretta Fuddy.
1 posted on 12/17/2013 8:00:15 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Pssst! Rosa and Jacob - don’t go to visit Ft. Marcy Park.


2 posted on 12/17/2013 8:06:08 AM PST by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: WhiskeyX

Did Loretta have a lead snow storm in her brain?


3 posted on 12/17/2013 8:08:01 AM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: WhiskeyX

Well that was pretty worthless. They had zip to say about what happened to Fuddy.


4 posted on 12/17/2013 8:08:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
They had zip to say about what happened to Fuddy.

They know what's good for them...

5 posted on 12/17/2013 8:09:37 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Nachum; null and void

A brief, if useless, update...


6 posted on 12/17/2013 8:10:17 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
If these two want to avoid the same fate as Fuddy, then take a clue from this guy...... 

 


7 posted on 12/17/2013 8:12:12 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Not quite useless.

What does ‘we had a bang’ mean shortly after the plane took off? We didn’t have that information before.

The plane went down as was previously reported by a pilot in another plane. Did he witness what “bang” the couple talked about?


9 posted on 12/17/2013 8:19:26 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

What exactly did you expect them to say?


10 posted on 12/17/2013 8:19:59 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

The bang could have been a compressor stall..happens when you change power setting to fast. It can cause damage to the engine.


11 posted on 12/17/2013 8:22:32 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Sir Napsalot

Maybe a compressor stall in the turbine. Those usually sound like a Big Bang.


12 posted on 12/17/2013 8:23:34 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Old Sarge

“They know what’s good for them”

Yeh. “We no see what happen a Fuddy lady” LOL!


13 posted on 12/17/2013 8:28:03 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

14 posted on 12/17/2013 8:32:10 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (I Love 0bamaCare! It proves government incompetence forever.)
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To: Deo volente

The US Navy salvaged the Japanese fishing vessel sunk by the showboating submarine Captain.

That vessel was about 2000 feet deep if I remember and we’re supposed to believe that an airplane a few hundred yards off shore is irrecoverable?

BS.


15 posted on 12/17/2013 8:33:35 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: WhiskeyX

How many were on the plane when it went down???

Was she the only casualty???


16 posted on 12/17/2013 8:34:31 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Oldexpat

Oh come on. We all know that Obama raided the plane mid-air like Bane in the Dark Knight Rises, just to assassinate some lady tangentially related to his birth certificate.

/sarc


17 posted on 12/17/2013 8:37:32 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: WhiskeyX

Does KITV publish in some other language? I get the feeling, reading this, that I’m reading a machine translation.


18 posted on 12/17/2013 8:39:23 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Uncle Chip

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3102601/posts


19 posted on 12/17/2013 8:39:27 AM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Uncle Chip

9 and yes she was...


20 posted on 12/17/2013 8:53:15 AM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Boogieman

It’s a good thing you put the sarcasm tag, otherwise you’d be getting posts agreeing with your assessment. Some threads around here feel like I’m on Alex Jones’ website.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 9:02:55 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Boogieman

Now, now...thinking logically just makes you a Fuddy-Duddy.


22 posted on 12/17/2013 9:04:34 AM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: EEGator

Obama does seem to have unhinged otherwise rational conservatives and turned them into raving lunatics. It’s like they just can’t accept that Obama is in office for the next 3 years, and there is nothing short of a miracle that will change that. So they latch on to any theory, no matter how crazy or far-fetched, as if that might be the damning thing to take him down.


23 posted on 12/17/2013 9:37:43 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: All

Here are television news interviews with eyewitnesses and the crash survivor who swam to shore. Sorry about the ads!

http://youtu.be/rIkhcC4dsx8

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVBRqosFLY


24 posted on 12/17/2013 9:38:48 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: WhiskeyX

I guess the prevailing assumption is a high-level conspiracy to protect the Pres, or something to that effect. If they were going do away with her, couldn’t they have come up with a simpler, less problematic way? I mean, this is like those Bond stories where they pick the most impossible method to kill Bond.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 9:45:41 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

I agree with you. While Obama is great at out-thinking himself and talking ahead of his quite-small brain, his handlers probably know how to deal with threats simply and quietly.


26 posted on 12/17/2013 10:09:16 AM PST by 60Gunner (Fight with your head high, or grovel with your head low.)
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To: Boogieman

Agreed.


27 posted on 12/17/2013 10:13:00 AM PST by EEGator
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To: 60Gunner

Never underestimate Ms. Jarrett.


28 posted on 12/17/2013 10:42:06 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: WhiskeyX

If they wanted to take her out there are easier ways to do it than complicating it with a plane crash and 9 other passengers.


29 posted on 12/17/2013 11:15:38 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

That’s actually 1 pilot and 8 passengers.

The problem with plausible deniability is the plausibility of the explanation, whether the event was a fictional conspiracy or a real conspiracy.

At present it appears most plausible that the Pratt & Whitney PT-6 turboprop engine suffered a catastrophic failure, probably due to the separation of a turbine blade in the engine. Since there have been a number of other such PT-6 engine failures reported in recent months and years, it is certainly plausible there is an as yet undiscovered problem with these engines. If so, it is more plausible the engine failure was due to an accidental mechanical failure rather than a failure due to some form of sabotage.

The death of Loretta Fuddy due to hypothermia and complications of such exposure and/or the trauma suffered in the landing is highly plausible and most likely, with or without the existence of any conspiracies. All of which makes the task of separating the real from the fantastic exceedingly difficult, if not impossible. The public can only keep itself as well informed as the oppotunities present themselves and act responsibly while recognizing the plausibility of an accidental fatality.


30 posted on 12/17/2013 11:42:50 AM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: PapaNew

People watch way too many movies if they are thinking this is how anyone would actually plan to kill someone.


31 posted on 12/17/2013 12:08:25 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
People watch way too many movies if they are thinking this is how anyone would actually plan to kill someone.

Exactly. That and the draw of a seeming romance or intrigue of a conspiracy.

32 posted on 12/17/2013 12:13:46 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: WhiskeyX

To: All
Here are television news interviews with eyewitnesses and the crash survivor who swam to shore. Sorry about the ads!

http://youtu.be/rIkhcC4dsx8

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVBRqosFLY

24 posted on Wednesday, 18 December 2013 4:38:48 AM by Nero Germanicus


33 posted on 12/17/2013 12:21:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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whoops!

meant to post that to another thread.


34 posted on 12/17/2013 12:22:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: SZonian

I don’t know why the moderators removed my post. Perhaps I excerpted too much of the article.

I still can’t find any report on the cause of her death. The autopsy was supposedly done last Thursday.


35 posted on 12/17/2013 12:51:16 PM PST by Deo volente (God willing, America shall survive this Obamanation.)
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To: WhiskeyX

The beeping could have been the stall warning system going off.


36 posted on 12/17/2013 1:05:57 PM PST by expat2
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To: WhiskeyX

Hypothermia, in Hawaiian waters?


37 posted on 12/17/2013 1:09:23 PM PST by expat2
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To: expat2

Yes. See the 77-78.1F sea surface temperatures versus Human body temperatures. Note how the wind speeds contribute to wind chill when you are immersed in the sea and your haed is exposed to the winds.

HYPOTHERMIA IN HAWAII
This general information is provided to help you recognize the onset of Hypothermia. It is not intended to replace professional medical attention. Even in Hawaii’s ocean waters the threat of Hypothermia exists. Hypothermia is the condition in which the body loses heat faster than it is producing it.

http://dlnr.hawaii.gov/dobor/boating-in-hawaii/hypothermia-in-hawaii/


38 posted on 12/17/2013 1:13:45 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX

You can survive in 78deg water for a very long time, and most of the people on board swam to the shore quite quickly, and the rescuers came on the scene promptly.


39 posted on 12/17/2013 5:32:08 PM PST by expat2
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To: expat2

“You can survive in 78deg water for a very long time, and most of the people on board swam to the shore quite quickly, and the rescuers came on the scene promptly.”

Some people can survive in 78F water for a prolonged period of time, while other people in poor physical condition and/or having just suffered physical trauma often may not. The SST (Sea Surface Temperature) of 77-78°F was low enough to eventually bring about a lowering of body core temperature to the range for mild hypothermia at 90-95°F, moderate hypothermia at 82-90°F, or even severe hypothermia at 68-82°F. Trauma suffered when the aircraft ditched in the sea could very well have contributed to a more rapid onset of hypothermia as the heart rate, blood pressure, and respiratory rated dropped. Under such conditions, especially in the presence of aggravated hypoglycemia or hyperglycemia, you can see heart problems become a risk for fatality.

It is untrue to say, “most of the people on board swam to the shore quite quickly.” Only one person swam to the shore, a 70 year old former Army Ranger in good physical condition, and he took about an hour to swim the mile to shore as the currents swept the survivors farther out to sea away from the crash site 400-500 yards offshore. The other seven passengers and one pilot did not swim to shore, but were transported there by helicopters.

Although aircraft arrived within the first half-hour after the crash and observed the survivors from overhead, it took more than an hour for the rescuers to arrive and begin taking the survivors out of the water.


40 posted on 12/17/2013 6:37:18 PM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Paine in the Neck

No lookie, no likey!


41 posted on 12/18/2013 6:10:12 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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