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Posted on 12/17/2013 9:28:48 AM PST by the scotsman
Unreleased outtakes, demos and BBC sessions by The Beatles from 1963 have been released on iTunes.
The 59 tracks have been released on iTunes to stop them falling out of copyright and into the public domain.
EU copyright law covers recordings for 70 years if they have had an official release or 50 years if they have not.
The 2-disc set was apparently released, then removed, early on Tuesday, causing speculation it was only being published briefly to extend the copyright period.
Fans posted screenshots of the collection on the New Zealand iTunes store, along with links which later became invalid.
Online reports suggested the same thing had happened in Australia, Russia and Saudi Arabia - although the EU's copyright laws would not apply in any of these territories.
However, the full album appeared on the UK iTunes store shortly after 14:00 GMT. The BBC has been told the songs will remain on the site "indefinitely".
Gathering together live material and recording session offcuts, the compilation includes four alternate takes of She Loves You, two of From Me To You and several live versions of Roll Over Beethoven.
It also features three attempts at There's A Place, as well as demos of two songs the group gave to other artists - Paul McCartney and John Lennon's acoustic version of Bad to Me and Lennon's piano demo of I'm in Love.'
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
Just Let it be.......................
Copyright extension. Because the Beatles haven’t made enough money yet. England had NO problem with Sinata, Elvis, and others’ works becoming public domain.
I still remember when the Beatles owned the songs and would not allow them to be used for commercials, certainly before Lennon was shot and probably through 1980s.
I will say this, the Beatles has proven to be a capitalistic Juggernaut. Never before has any other musical group milked album sales as adroitly as the Beatles have. Re-releases, copies from Masters, hi-fidelity recordings, albums, tapes, discs, downloads, re-releases, etc.
I wonder what the sum total of all the albums sold has been for the Beatles empire over the years. It is like a money printing press and I am always amazed at what re-release they come up with next.
Anyone who does not own McCartney’s new album “New” needs to get it immediately. No kidding. If you love Beatles music, this release will transport you back 50 years. It’s brilliant, wonderful and rockin’!!
Of course this is the reason. Brian Wilson's people drew attention to the Beatles' cuts last week when they promoted his own copyright extension cuts.
Too bad these will all be as unhip as Rudy Vallee, Al Jolson, and Rosemary Clooney when today's grade schoolers hit adulthood.
Should've done more with this "gold" in the 50 years leading up to now.
Who KNOWS when Polygram will finally release the 1950s concert footage of Elvis and Bill Haley together.
Heavy? Unknown. Will listen and read.
I don’t know, one of the Sgt. Pepper’s/Magical Mystery Tour songs was used in the final episode of The Prisoner in the 1960s.
Did he not die?
Who decides how much money they should be allowed to make? What does that have to do with anything? They created it and it is theirs. I have no problem with artists copywriting their work.
If those tracks have not been released in the past fifty years there must be a reason...applying Occam’s Razor...probably they’re just crap (of interest only to dedicated collectors).
Michael Jackson used them in songs, when he owned them. It is one of the things that gives me joy, as it upset Paul McCartney.
Did he not die?
It was Harold Camping who did.
Wishful thinking all. By people who insist that “Beatles will ALWAYS be remembered”. Like the fans of Little Peggy March once did. How many of Irving Berlin’s smash hits are remembered today?
Great and wonderfully weird (typical) episode. My favorite one is a tie between “Many Happy Returns” and “The Girl Who Was Death”.
yes, several dead ... but here is Brian ... http://www.biography.com/people/brian-wilson-586000?page=1 ... guess is still undead. Will do more to research.
yes, ice cream is still delicious. Just a negotiation ... Got ice cream?
One sweet dream ... came true ... http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/b/the_beach_boys/index.html
The Brits had no problem with prohibiting Elvis, Sinatra, and others (estates or individuals) from extending THEIR own copyrights.
The Beatles should’ve been hung by the same rope. Or else the extensions should’ve been permitted for the pre-British Invasion pop stars.
It’s the double standard I don’t like.
And the Beatles and Cliff Richard were behind it.
Oh poor them.
In the early 1980s I was buying up every Beatles album I could find and I remember this Rarities album
It has a German version of I want to Hold your hand.
And a version of Help that had John as lead singer instead of Paul.
No. Dennis Wilson drowned and Carl Wilson died from cancer, but Brian is still alive. And still facing psychological problems.
you mean he didn’t give them up?
There were two diffent versions of the THE Rarities album.
And then they were set to go to press with Sessions at some point in the 80s and then didn’t. And then it was bootlegged (including the album cover art).
Eventually they put out the Anthology series. And said THAT’S IT, THERE ARE NO MORE BEATLES SONGS.
Except there are. And they will be trickling out of the vault for the next 10 years as each year’s recordings come up for public domain consideration.
here you go ... confirmed ... http://en.mediamass.net/people/brian-wilson/deathhoax.html
Recall the banned album cover with the dead baby dolls, to protest the record companies hacking up their British albums to make US versions with less songs on each, to create more to sell.
The individual Beatles songs after break up tended to be crappy with a few exceptions.
John’ Lennon’s single work was dramatically worse than his work as a Beatle.
I like that song were he rips Paul. Talk about childish, but entertaining too.
yep ... she has always been a dancer. Found a steady job instead.
Sleeps forever or till the bell tolls? Who am I to find the bell tolling?
and in the end ... the love you take is equal to the love you make .... got little blue pills?
“If those tracks have not been released in the past fifty years there must be a reason...applying Occams Razor...probably theyre just crap (of interest only to dedicated collectors).”
Sometime in the 70’s there was a bootleg album of the Get Back studio sessions that was just a bunch of noodling on instruments and talking.
Last time I heard a”previously un-released” Beatle song it sucked Bad!
Thanks for the recommendation! I was just looking at it this morning in Walmart wondering if it was worth picking up. Now I will. :)
Calling for the release of the unreleased Beatles single (the A side.)
This sounds very much like Beatles, better than 1978 Rutles
It was a 2011 European not solely British ruling that raised it from 50 to 70 yrs, composers already have copyright over their music until 70 years after their deaths, so The Beatles, who wrote their own songs, were already safe from copyright expiry. It was artists who made their names with songs written by others, such as Sir Cliff Richard, Shirley Bassey and Tom Jones, and Elvis and Sinatra who were threatened with a steady decline in their earnings. The law affects recordings made on or after Jan 1st 1963.
So actually major British pop stars of the 50’s like Cliff Richard have already and will continue to lose out on massive hits from the mid 50’s to 1963.
Frankly I detect you are trying to make this a British vs American issue, when it isn’t.
Give Me a Kiss--The Hornets (1964)
"They do it in Egypt;
Heard some stories about the Swiss.
Don't want to see me gypped..."
That's exactly why these tracks have never been released. Musicians typically record tons of material, then release only their very best performances.
I'm sure if the surviving Beatles had their way, these tracks would never see the light of day.
Anything over 30 years old is PD imo, and is treated as such.
HA! I have about 30 of them in my playlist. Granted, out of 19,000 songs, that's a small percentage, but the total is probably actually higher, as that only lists those with "Berlin" somewhere in the ID3 tag.
I don’t think the surviving Beatles get diddly for this. I think it’s Sony these days. I could be all wet, these may not be in “the book.”
May not work out as you think. There are inherent differences in the music of the Rock Era and that of the pre Rock Era.
We are ALREADY well into the envelope you describe in that anyone listening to The Beatles or Led Zeppelin are listening to music as old as Rudee Vallie’s stuff was in 1972. Huge numbers of young people know and love the old catalog.
Years ago I expected what you describe to happen as that is what history says will happen. The idea popped into my head in 1979 as I sat in traffic listening to “Whole Lotta’ Love’ as I tried to conceive of it being regarded as some kind of old Hal Roach dirge.
The big difference with RnR was that it was the music, the sound of Youth (rather than of people who happened to be young when they made it). As the music critic at the NYTimes put it back then “ it is ACTION oriented rather than romantic.” (Or something like that) Action still appeals to the young.
I see your point. It is very good and valid. Nevertheless, popular music is generational and passes along with the generations. So what that somebody’s grandchildren are listening to the Beatles (as reported on this forum recently and repeatedly in response to posts like mine.) Dollars to donuts that their grandchildren won’t. My own daughter, whom I raised on Vince Gill and Patty Loveless, later a Green Day fan, once fell for the long dead Gram Parsons. Who? I never really appreciated him myself, before or after.
In addition, something that I only recently discovered (dumb! dumb!), people judge much of popular music, especially live performances, by their experiences while listening to it. You can see it by reading comments on Youtube under godawful live performances by the Rolling Stones (or anyone, I suppose). I was there (meaning, I paid the exorbitant price for the ticket), I had fun with my girlfriend there, therefore it was good.
On Fakebook, while I post links to videos and free downloads by Filligar and Nicki Bluhm and the Gramblers, among others, my “friends”, who grew up with the Swinging Blue Jeans, not only fail to click Like, but respond by posting links to Gerry and the Pacemakers. Stuck in their youth. And I bet they say that Elvis will be forever, and Beatles too.
These are bits of BeeB chatter from radio broadcasts. Early days.
ANY works that have not already secured copyright 50 years after creation automatically BECOME public domain under the new Euro tradition.
This is why Bob Dylan, the Beatles, The Beach Boys, and others are having to open the vault if only for time-limited digital releases (and digital downloads have NO resale rights/potential).
A concept that must be lost on the joint media/marketing machine...naw, not really. Woohoo, let's make a(nother) buck! The suckers (suitably mind-massaged) are out there...
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