Skip to comments.If You Love the Constitution, Then Go Take It
Posted on 12/17/2013 10:26:40 AM PST by Kaslin
The gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair now evident amongst the talkers and the chattering class about the newest budget deal is more proof that our constitution still works, even if imperfectly.
I know that many of you have heard that the constitution was outdated, a relic of old white men, not suited for todays hyper-partisanship. Some of you have even predicted the demise of the Republic.
The only thing hyper right now is the hyperventilating of people like David Brooks, the EEOCs pick for token Republican at the New York Times.
Brooks is upset because the poor people at the Congressional Budget Office have to work so hard analyzing bills, when after all, so bills are passed into law.
Its possible that years will go by without the passage of a major piece of legislation. Meanwhile, Brooks continues, Washington nearly strangles on a gnat, like this weeks teeny budget compromise.
What Brooks sees as a drawback, I see as a benefit.
You see, I for one am a bit more sanguine about the survival of the country, in part, because of the budget deal.
The sad truth is that Republicans and Democrats in Congress got the best budget deal that they were able to.
Neither side has the muscle, under our constitution, to get the kind of deal that theyd like. After the bruising that Republicans took over the shutdowna shutdown that I supportedand the bruising that Democrats are taking on Obamacare, both sides felt it a necessary evil to put on their statesmanship hat for a moment, because frankly, many of them are up for reelection.
With approval ratings hovering in the teens for Congress and an all time low for the president, compromise is the inevitable result. You dont have to agree with the compromise to understand it.
Even more, this is how our founders intended the government to work. For all of you who cry "What about the constitution?" Compromise and slow change is how the constitution works.
Just as Democrats didnt march to victory in one or two election cycles, so too Republicans should expect that it will take a bit longer to capture enough of the government to effect real change.
Yes, we could do with better top-of-the-ticket candidatesand that applies to both Tea Party and establishment candidates.
But we are in the process of developing strong leaders, who can appeal to young voters, Hispanic voters, black voters, who at the same time, can appeal to the base.
Rebuilding a partyand the government that goes with it-- isnt done in one election cycle.
It takes a lot of them.
For example, in 1858 Abraham Lincoln was defeated in his race for the United States Senate by Stephen Douglas, making it Lincolns third electoral defeat in a row.
During that time, Lincolns old Whig Party broke up, slavery was expanded into the territories under Dread Scott, and the Republican Party was born.
But on the night that Lincoln was defeated, again, victory seemed far away.
As Lincoln emerged from the telegraph office into the rain-soaked street in Springfield, Illinois he lost his balance when his foot slipped on the slick boardwalk. Catching himself before he tumbled into the mud Lincoln muttered to under his breath, A slip, but not a fall.
He then smiled brightly.
Recognizing the symbolic importance for his political life of catching himself before he fell, Lincoln understood that his political career was not over despite his string of defeats. He started for home reenergized.
In two years he was elected President of the United States.
It will take a long time to get the ship of state righted.
It also takes a coalition, to replace the coalition that broke up in the wake of Obamas victory.
But the resources to win still exist.
They are called elections.
Just remember this: They cant cheat if you dont make it close.
It will be a lot less close if Republicans keep the government open this time.
Thats what this budget is about.
You dont have to like. But you should understand it.
You want the power to change it?
Then go take it.
Cool-aid. Get your Cool-aid here.
“During that time, Lincolns old Whig Party broke up, slavery was expanded into the territories under Dread Scott, and the Republican Party was born.”
‘Dread’ Scott? Spell check isn’t always our friend.
Funny. Elections will save/restore what has been lost these past hundred years. Sure.
Electing Republicans sure won’t help anything.
“In two years he was elected President of the United States.”
From which America has never recovered!
Dick.G: AMERICAN !
Like the slow, deliberate process the ‘rats used when they rammed ObozoCare through without one Republican vote, without even reading it, with tricks and dodges and bribes and exemptions?
Then what party would you prefer to be elected?
I'm looking for one, anyway.
I don’t vote for the rat party either. Never have, never will. but if you think a third party would achieve what you want then you are either dreaming or delusional. A third party will achieve absolutely nothing
Agreed — but I would extend the observation: electoral politics will not give us our freedom back. I believe voting is pointless. I’m just waiting for more people to catch on. It may be a long wait, but it will eventually happen.
DC is a lost cause. It doesn’t really matter. At the state level, the R’s are the best choice, and I’ll focus my attention there. I’m not even sure I’ll bother voting for my rep, Yoder, who voted for this stupid budget.
No, it isn't.
The Constitution is a document outlining the limits of power granted to the federal government. No compromise is intended with these limits except by the explicit amending of the document.
This compromise nonsense is what has resulted in the myriad gun control laws which infringe the right to keep and bear arms.
The anti-gunners propose to outlaw 200 weapons. The Constitutionalists propose that we abide by the Bill of Rights and not infringe. The compromise is to ban only 100 weapons.
California, in a recently filed legal brief, admits that their 10-day waiting period to purchase a firearm is a small burden on Second Amendment rights. Correctly, the judge did not suggest that the plaintiffs and the state compromise and agree to a 5-day waiting period.
The judge rightly observed that the right is being burdened and will hold a trial at which the state will attempt to prove that the law is justified. It will not be an exercise in compromise.
The US Supreme Court is just one vote away from some of the most frightening decisions one might contemplate. I urge you to reconsider.
That will happen, the GOP in DC will do nothing to stop it, and our only pre-violent remedy will be proactive state legislatures. It’s time we hang this notion that we can hold DC accountable. They’re laughing and mocking us. We just need to starve them. If there were any smart people in DC, they’d walk out. I hope I get proven wrong.
I voted for McCain and I voted for Romney after swearing not to do either. I’m sure I’ll vote for my worthless rep, but I probably shouldn’t.
Until recently it never occurred to me to not vote in a congressional election. It's near certain that I will vote in 2014, yet the seed has been planted.
For instance, Obamacare has never garnered 51% in any poll, ever. It is destroying health care, the health care insurance industry, and the administration's buddies in crime, Scotus says the government can constitutionally force us to purchase anything it wants. If the pubbies refuse to repeal, defund, or throw sand in the gears of horrible, hated law, can we reasonably expect the GOP to someday restore our freedoms?
The thinking side of my brain wonders why I continue to participate in the farce. Tyrants like Chavez and Obama love elections, because elections legitimize their crimes. Why give my imprimatur, my approval to the mirage of republican government?
The feeling side will surely conquer by next November, when I will almost certainly vote.
William Tell you are point on. Bravo. Keep up the well-thought out rhetoric, sir!
Keep in mind. The US supreme court is 5-4 GOP appointees. Chairman of the fed is a GOP appointee. The Clean Air Act got 40% of the GOP’s vote. The EPA was created by a GOP president. DHS was created by a GOP president and congress. The DC GOP is our enemy.
You mean like how we all made sure we got out to the polls to ensure that W stayed in office so he could nominate Justice Roberts?
“Just remember this: They cant cheat if you dont make it close.”
Well, some folks do say that I’m crazy but it seems to me that they have voting machines that take a vote from the R column and put it in the D column and they have a propaganda machine that would have made Stalin, Hitler or any other dictator jealous, they have put Obama in the oval office twice. I really don’t see much of a limit on the cheating.
While you are right in that call to that participant in this dicussion...
Explain to me why we the people should continue to stress that D.C., namely the shlups that are elected to represent us are worth saving at this point???
I believe we should fire all of them and send people up there that are not a part of this in any way, shape or form...
But trying to get people to admit, much less be convinced that their “guys” are part of the problem is a tough sell, and not something people want to admit, that they have made a mistake by sending these now corrruptable characters up there in the first place...
One thing you have to realize is that conservatism in one part of the country, lets say Texas, Arizona...Is way different than say NY or California...Pick your poison...
Liberalism, and its way to corrupt even the most conservative principles of people we thought were standard bearers for conservative ideals, is a big problem, in my opinion...
OPne thing you should ask of every sigle person vying for your support in the next election, should be,
“Are you going to continue, (or begin) to compramise your conservative principles (you’re campaigning on) just to play nice with the political opposition, and people in your own party, that continue to sell the American people down the road to economic and social destruction???”
“You say you will not now, but the proof is in the pudding, because if I get the chance, a couple of years from now, when you want to run again for office, we shall have the proof, either way...and you may not like the tone I use in that encounter...”
The problem is the people we ARE sending up there...And the solution was never going to be easy or something that could correct itself overnight...But it has gone on way too long, and there is no clear consensus across the country to resolve these issues...Much less admit that all of us are guilty by sending (geberally) the same type of people to represent us over the last 25-30 years, and een farther back in some cases...
Admitting we are part of the problem is just the first step...Taking out the trash is the next...and everyone has to be a part of that step...
Otherwise we are spinning our wheels...
Just my opinion...