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School Board votes to rename Nathan Bedford Forrest High School
ActionNewsJax.coim ^ | 12/17/2013 | Alyana Gomez

Posted on 12/17/2013 12:47:34 PM PST by South40

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A time to mend the divide; a sentiment that was met with a standing ovation.

The Duval County School Board voted unanimously to remove the name of a Confederate general from a Westside high school. School leaders called it a move for progress.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: nathanbedfordforrest
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Forrest was a KKK member, So was Robert KKK Byrd. So naturally, we can expect Robert C. Byrd High School in West Virginia to be renamed soon...right? /s
1 posted on 12/17/2013 12:47:34 PM PST by South40
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To: South40

I am...patiently waiting....for his namesake, a long time FR brother to respond......


2 posted on 12/17/2013 12:48:57 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: South40

Soon to be...The Nelson Mandela School for the Hearing Impaired


3 posted on 12/17/2013 12:49:56 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: South40

Truman was also ex K-cube


4 posted on 12/17/2013 12:50:43 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: tophat9000

Democrats, of course will tell anyone (even Slick Willie) that he HAD to be a KKK member just in order to get elected by those inbred country, black hating hicks.


5 posted on 12/17/2013 12:53:14 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: South40

Shows they don’t understand what being a Confederate means. But then again neither do most ‘Americans’.


6 posted on 12/17/2013 12:54:28 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: South40; NathanBedfordForrest
thanks, for the post.
..over here ping.

7 posted on 12/17/2013 12:55:07 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: South40; All

In the words of WFB, this decision is an exercise in triviality.

But let’s be honest about Byrd. He stopped being a KKK member over 60 years ago and apologized for it many times over the years.


8 posted on 12/17/2013 12:56:17 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: skinkinthegrass

LOL! Bet that old self esteem quotient went sky high. I guess the FL school will be the “travon martin memorial institute for higher learning”. Or just the “skittles school of cultural diversity”.


9 posted on 12/17/2013 12:57:47 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: tophat9000
Truman was also ex K-cube
*foggy memories*...As were many, in the Old South/Border States...

10 posted on 12/17/2013 12:59:08 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: EveningStar

Yeah, but man-de-la apologized to but he was still a pos.


11 posted on 12/17/2013 12:59:25 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: South40

$500K dollars to make the change and not a single students grades in state tests will go up but the board and others will “FEEL” better
Freegards
LEX


12 posted on 12/17/2013 12:59:47 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: EveningStar

As long as we’re being honest; Byrd used the word “nigger” as recently as 2001. That, and being a KKK member should be enough to remove his name from any high school.


13 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:01 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

Duval County is Northeast Florida’s toilet.


14 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:21 PM PST by EEGator
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To: nathanbedford

ping


15 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: clintonh8r

LOL

Whose mascot will now be a flaming radial tire called Winnie.


16 posted on 12/17/2013 1:00:48 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: South40

Academic performance at all grade levels in Duval County is circling the bowl; the recently-appointed Superintendent of Public Schools is out of depth; highly qualified and effective teachers are either leaving or being driven off; and this is what the Duval County School Board thinks is important to focus on.

Meh!


17 posted on 12/17/2013 1:01:11 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: rktman

PURPLE DRANK ELEMENTARY!


18 posted on 12/17/2013 1:01:44 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: rktman
Or just the “skittles school of cultural diversity”
don't forget the high-energy drinks sold in the Cafeteria...

19 posted on 12/17/2013 1:02:26 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: South40

How about Andrew Jackson HS?...........


20 posted on 12/17/2013 1:02:52 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: South40; nathanbedford

I can understand why they would rename the school.

On the other hand, the historical man was more interesting than the average newsie will ever be able to explain.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 1:02:56 PM PST by marron
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To: skinkinthegrass

I knew someone would ping him


22 posted on 12/17/2013 1:03:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EveningStar
And as long as we're still being honest:

In 1875, Forrest demonstrated that his personal sentiments on the issue of race now differed from that of the Klan, when he was invited to give a speech before an organization of black Southerners advocating racial reconciliation, called the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association. At this, his last public appearance, he made what the New York Times described as a "friendly speech"[10] during which, when offered a bouquet of flowers by a black woman, he accepted them as a token of reconciliation between the races and espoused a radically progressive (for the time) agenda of equality and harmony between black and white Americans.[54] His speech was as follows:

"Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God's earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) This day is a day that is proud to me, having occupied the position that I did for the past twelve years, and been misunderstood by your race. This is the first opportunity I have had during that time to say that I am your friend. I am here a representative of the southern people, one more slandered and maligned than any man in the nation.

I will say to you and to the colored race that men who bore arms and followed the flag of the Confederacy are, with very few exceptions, your friends. I have an opportunity of saying what I have always felt - that I am your friend, for my interests are your interests, and your interests are my interests. We were born on the same soil, breathe the same air, and live in the same land. Why, then, can we not live as brothers? I will say that when the war broke out I felt it my duty to stand by my people. When the time came I did the best I could, and I don't believe I flickered. I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe that I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to bring about peace. It has always been my motto to elevate every man- to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going.

I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, that you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so.

We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Use your best judgement in selecting men for office and vote as you think right.

Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. I have been in the heat of battle when colored men, asked me to protect them. I have placed myself between them and the bullets of my men, and told them they should be kept unharmed. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand." (Prolonged applause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Bedford_Forrest

23 posted on 12/17/2013 1:04:05 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: skinkinthegrass

A little robitusin and were all set for “high” skrool.


24 posted on 12/17/2013 1:04:42 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: GeronL; nathanbedford
I knew someone would ping him
always go to the source...

25 posted on 12/17/2013 1:05:29 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: rktman; South40; All

BTW, I thoroughly detested Byrd and I feel like taking a bath after defending him.


26 posted on 12/17/2013 1:05:42 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: skinkinthegrass

lol


27 posted on 12/17/2013 1:07:14 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: South40

revisionists live everywhere…..


28 posted on 12/17/2013 1:08:32 PM PST by Nifster
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To: EveningStar

And you should. LOL! Defending the indefensible is hard work.


29 posted on 12/17/2013 1:09:24 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: EveningStar
BTW, I thoroughly detested Byrd

Never thought otherwise. My point is that Byrd was no better than Forrest, regardless of the fact that he "apologized" and hadn't been a KKK member for 60 years.

The hypocrisy of the left is on display here. I realize these are different districts in different states. But if there is sufficient reason to remove Forrest's name from a school there is equally sufficient reason to remove Byrd's.

30 posted on 12/17/2013 1:09:32 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: South40

I recall once Rush Limbaugh read a list of stuff in Iraq that was named after Saddam Hussein, followed by a list of stuff in West Virginia that was named after Robert C. Byrd.

The Robert C. Byrd list was three times as long.


31 posted on 12/17/2013 1:11:26 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: South40; nathanbedford

Thanks for posting this. I was under the impression that Forrest was born again late in his life and saw the error of his previous racist views. If so, he missed a chance to say this in the speech you posted.


32 posted on 12/17/2013 1:11:48 PM PST by firebrand
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To: rktman
A little robitusin and
were all set for “high”
..and some "knockouts / wilding" after skrool....
no "Basketball Jones" there..or studying
:(unfortunately)

33 posted on 12/17/2013 1:12:18 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: South40; All

Don’t get me wrong. I think the decision to change the name is stupid and is based on ignorance, political correctness, and possibly cowardice.


34 posted on 12/17/2013 1:12:32 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: clintonh8r

The Barak Obama School for the Chooming Sodomizers.


35 posted on 12/17/2013 1:14:43 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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Study some history, folks...The “KKK” began at Pulaski, TN. in a small college and was started (and joined by Forrest) as a club to clandestinely punish cheaters and slobs at the college...When it morphed into a radical organization, Forrest left it as did the students...it was taken over by southerners who used it to fight against “Northern carpetbaggers” who were taking advantage of the defeated southerners because the law sided with the northerners.
It then later “morphed” into the “racist” organization long after Forrest left.


36 posted on 12/17/2013 1:15:10 PM PST by Boonie
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To: firebrand
I guess you see what you want to see.

This is a quote from Forrest: I have been in the heat of battle when colored men, asked me to protect them. I have placed myself between them and the bullets of my men, and told them they should be kept unharmed.

And, of course, this is a quote from Byrd: I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

But Forrest had not "seen the error of his ways".

37 posted on 12/17/2013 1:16:25 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Boonie
Thank You, For the information..

38 posted on 12/17/2013 1:17:24 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: Boonie

Facts don’t seem to matter to some. But thanks for your contribution. :-)


39 posted on 12/17/2013 1:18:26 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: clintonh8r

Exactly. You can bet these school board morons are trying to be the first to jump aboard the “Name Your School After Nellie Mandela” bandwagon. It makes an American want to puke.


40 posted on 12/17/2013 1:19:24 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all my fellow Americans. "Whatever" to everybody else!)
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To: clintonh8r
Soon to be...The Nelson Mandela School for the Hearing Impaired

I nominate this as the posted reply of the day.

41 posted on 12/17/2013 1:19:59 PM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yes, West Virginians love them some Robert Byrd. Even the blacks. He certainly did his share of bring home the bacon, so to speak.


42 posted on 12/17/2013 1:20:07 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The Robert C. Byrd list was three times as long

If Byrd had lived long enough, he would have paved over the entire state using porkbarrel funds.

43 posted on 12/17/2013 1:20:30 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: South40

I just wonder what all the colorblind whites will do when they come after Washington, Henry and all the other founders?


44 posted on 12/17/2013 1:23:16 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: South40

Rename it “Nathan Bedford Forrest III High School”. He was a hero who died in World War 2. Who could object to naming after someone like that?


45 posted on 12/17/2013 1:23:21 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

EXCELLENT!


46 posted on 12/17/2013 1:23:58 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: South40

Well, you’re wrong about my seeing what I want to see. I was looking for an answer. Anyway, I’ll assume you are right about Forrest.


47 posted on 12/17/2013 1:27:26 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The list of places and things that will be named for the wun will either be absurdly long and dwarfing sheets Byrd or just a few obscure points of no interest depending on how civilization fares.


48 posted on 12/17/2013 1:41:26 PM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: clintonh8r

Soon to be...The Nelson Mandela School for the Hearing Impaired

What and skip our own great martin Luther king or Cesar Chavez? And dammit, where are there advocates for naming schools after native Americans. Hell they were here first, right?


49 posted on 12/17/2013 1:46:00 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: South40

Give it a generation or two...


50 posted on 12/17/2013 1:56:12 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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