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Disabled Military Retirees Not Exempt from Pension Cuts in Budget Deal
FreeBeacon ^ | Dec 17, 2013 | BY: Elizabeth Harrington

Posted on 12/17/2013 6:07:16 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

A provision cutting the pensions of military retirees in the bipartisan budget deal that the Senate will vote on this week does not exempt disabled veterans, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

Disabled retirees were previously thought to be exempt from the changes to military retiree pay, which could cost servicemembers up to $124,000 over a 20-year period.

The Free Beacon previously reported that military retirees under the age of 62 would receive 1 percentage point less in their annual cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) in the plan crafted by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R., Wis.) and Senate Budget Committee Chairman Patty Murray (D., Wash.).

The section of the U.S. code that has been altered also applies to disabled servicemembers, many of whom have been wounded in combat.

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.), ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, called the change “unthinkable.”

“It has been asserted that the controversial change to military retirees’ pensions affects those who are ‘working-age’ and ‘still in their working years,’ with the clear suggestion being that these individuals are able to work,” Sessions said in a statement. “That’s why I was deeply troubled when my staff and I discovered that even individuals who have been wounded and suffered a service-related disability could see their pensions reduced under this plan.”

“It is unthinkable that this provision would be included in a deal that spares current civilian workers from the same treatment,” he said. “An equivalent amount of savings and more can be easily found, and I hope the Senate will move to address the unbalanced treatment of our servicemembers before considering the legislation any further.”

An original copy of a summary of the budget agreement, obtained by the Free Beacon, explicitly stated that disabled veterans would be exempt.

“This provision modifies the annual cost-of-living adjustment for working-age military retirees by making the adjustments equal to inflation minus 1 percent,” reads the summary, which was sent on Dec. 10. “This change would be gradually phased in, with no change for the current year, a 0.25 percent decrease in December 2014, and a 0.5 percent decrease in December 2015.

“This would not affect servicemembers who retired because of disability or injury.”

The summary now posted on the House Budget Committee website removed the sentence relating to disabled retirees.

The Ryan-Murray deal affects Chapter 71, Section 1401 of the United States Code, which deals with the pay of military retirees.

As the code is currently written, servicemembers can be eligible for early Chapter 61 retirement if it is determined that, due to a physical disability, that individual is no longer able to perform the duties of their office, grade, or rank. The individual must hold a disability rating of 30 percent or more according to Department of Defense standards, and the disability must be the proximate result of performing their duties during a time of war or national emergency.

Section 403 of the budget agreement amends section 1401a(b) of Title 10, U.S. Code, adding the “CPI minus one” percent provision, lowering the COLAs of disabled retirees.

Wounded servicemembers are entitled to Veterans Administration Disability Benefits, which remain unchanged by the budget deal. However, the change to Chapter 61 retirement could account for about 55 percent of a wounded service member’s disability pay, according to a Senate aide.

For example, a 28-year-old staff sergeant (an E-5 rank) who is forced to retire after 10 years would see approximately $50,000 in lost compensation over the next 40 years.

Rep. Ryan told the Weekly Standard that the changes are appropriate because servicemen and women who retire in their 40s after serving for two decades are still young enough to maintain a job.

“We give them a slightly smaller adjustment for inflation because they’re still in their working years and in most cases earning another paycheck,” Ryan said.

Sens. Roger Wicker (R., Miss.), Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), and Kelly Ayotte (R., N.H.) have said they are opposed to the deal because it cuts the benefits of military retirees, while not imposing equal cuts to federal civilian workers.

Will Allison, spokesman for the House Budget Committee, said the COLA provision does not offer any exemptions.

“The federal government has no greater obligation than to keep the American people safe,” Allison told the Free Beacon. “And it must take care of the men and women in uniform who put their lives on the line. To meet our obligations to our service men and women, we must make sure their long-term benefits are on a sound, financial footing.”

“Specifically to your question,” Allison said, “the COLA provision does not include additional exemptions, but to clarify: The Bipartisan Budget Act does not affect any benefits provided to veterans in compensation for disabilities suffered as a result of their service.”

“There are no changes made to disability-compensation benefits and no changes that would impact their VA-provided medical care,” he said.

The Senate is expected to pass the deal by a simple majority this week, after it cleared a crucial procedural vote on Tuesday.

Over the weekend, Ryan said it is possible to make changes to the military retiree provision, since it will not take effect immediately.

“We delayed this provision so that it doesn’t take effect until the year 2016, which gives Congress and the military community time to address the broader compensation issue, including this provision, if people believe there’s a better way to solve this problem,” he told the Weekly Standard.

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D., Mich.) also has said he will review the cut to military pensions.

“We’re going to look at the whole benefits issue for veterans,” Levin told Stars and Stripes on Friday. “I can’t obviously make a commitment, but I am committed to reviewing this and looking at the impacts.”


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1 posted on 12/17/2013 6:07:16 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.


2 posted on 12/17/2013 6:07:56 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Fail


3 posted on 12/17/2013 6:11:12 PM PST by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: Jet Jaguar

But welfare to illegals will continue. What’s wrong with this picture?


4 posted on 12/17/2013 6:13:45 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Yet NOT one CUT for aid/welfare to illegal immigrants...


5 posted on 12/17/2013 6:20:33 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Jet Jaguar

The military does not vote for Democrats and the Democrats only do what is in their personal and collective best interests. They could care less about the military and prefer to cater to their own constituencies: the indolent, the lazy, the grifters, the criminals, the self indulgent, the useless in society.

The Republicans refuse to stand up to this immoral and corrupt bargain and simply look for how they can make a deal that will keep themselves on the gravy train. Those who have sacrificed for their country just do not count in the political equation.


6 posted on 12/17/2013 6:21:16 PM PST by centurion316
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To: Jet Jaguar

sounds like a very bad idea


7 posted on 12/17/2013 6:21:53 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Jet Jaguar

My congressman, Duncan Hunter, voted FOR this. Representative Hunter voted to take money from the pockets of veterans, and disabled veterans. Shame on you, Duncan Hunter!


8 posted on 12/17/2013 6:26:05 PM PST by BAW ("If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. Period.")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Hey fellow Georgia veterans!
Our two voted “yea”. I won’t be voting for either next time.
How about you?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00279


9 posted on 12/17/2013 6:27:26 PM PST by SakoL61R
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To: SakoL61R

And a Big Thank You to those that voted “nay”


10 posted on 12/17/2013 6:29:11 PM PST by SakoL61R
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To: Jet Jaguar

Fasten your seat belt. Military compensation spending must be cut a LOT more than this mere COLA reduction rate in order to be sustainable. Secretary of Defense Hagel testified recently that compensation costs are already eating up a huge share of the DOD budget and if left unchecked, will consume a majority of the budget in a few years. That’s simply unsustainable.


11 posted on 12/17/2013 6:29:14 PM PST by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
This is absolutely disgusting. I am not a retiree, although I am a Veteran and disabled. Exposure to Agent Orange, the gift that keeps giving, resulted in my developing prostate cancer almost four decades after my service in Vietnam.

I am still working, I receive a VA disability check and will continue working as long as I am able. In the present economy, I consider myself lucky to be able to work.

Anyone who has gone through radiation treatment for prostate cancer knows what I face every day. I'll spare you the gory details, but suffice it to say, I can never roam far from a restroom.

For these REMFS, pogues, and chicken hawks to cut military pensions of any type is an insult to every man and woman who has ever put on the uniform.

Let the millionaires in Congress take a pay-cut - or better still, forgo their salaries altogether - they don't need the money - the guys and gals who have put their lives on the line do.



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

12 posted on 12/17/2013 6:30:28 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Poundstone

Don’t buy into this divisive arguement. The left would love to set the active and retired components against each other in a cage match when the real enemy to be cut off is the Free Shit Army.


13 posted on 12/17/2013 6:52:05 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Jet Jaguar

But of course Chuck Shumer and Marco Rubio need their govt swag.


14 posted on 12/17/2013 6:55:44 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: ConorMacNessa

This country is surely in some sort of breakdown with this happening.

We have many sorts of Americans nowadays . . .those who clearly love the country, will still give their lives and honor for it, and then those who are really just here to benefit themselves, and nothing more. The “benefiters” are clearly ok with pushing the patriots out in front to take the bullet, to be blown to smithereens, to sacrifice their youth and best years of their lives, their fortune, their life and family, just so THEY can get theirs — in whatever way that might be.

There is truly no unifying sense of right or wrong anymore, if we can allow this. Society is disintegrating before our eyes. It’s just just dog eat dog now ...no hallowed country — no real nation.

I don’t know it anymore.


15 posted on 12/17/2013 6:58:01 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Jet Jaguar

10 seconds before I read this, I thought I couldn’t be more incensed with this government of ours.

10 seconds later, I was proved wrong.


16 posted on 12/17/2013 7:30:05 PM PST by FatherFig1o155 ("Most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

We could generate almost four times the savings by cutting off the obamaphone program.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 7:40:19 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Of course take money from those that sacrifice the most, those that gave up birthdays, and holidays with their families, missed kids being born, and spent anniversaries in the dark cold places of the world, those that put their very lives on the line and give the ultimate sacrifice for over 20 years of their lives so that everyone in America can remain free, yes those that stand the watch on the walls of freedom fall victim to the political transformation of this once great nation. Certainly we can’t ask the people getting their free Obamaphones, Obamaloans, Obamahomes, WIC, SNAP, EBT Welfare payments, Obamacare, Medicaid to take just a little less, No, certainly we can’t hold accountable the crack Ho who is busy making more babies to qualify for more government bennies as she emulates Obamas life of Julia, No we must add insult to injury and demand that the verteran who did their time and sacrificed so much to continue to sacrifice some more. When will it be enough? The slippery slope of liberalism strikes again....


18 posted on 12/17/2013 7:53:57 PM PST by Typical_Whitey (The fundamental transformation resistance is futile you will be assimilated.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Weasle republicans who can go home and say “I voted against it.”

Mccain is a disabled vet. But he won’t worry about it since he married a drug addled millionairess.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 9:06:25 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sounds like the GOP has decided that the veteran vote is not important.

In my case they can be sure of it.

The GOP is a party of cowardly actions. Time for a new Party. This Country is better off without a Party that sucks the good will and money and hope out of its good citizens. Now is the time to get rid of and destroy this traitorous GOP. We can’t wait anymore.


20 posted on 12/17/2013 10:14:21 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC

It isn’t important.

Every year the USG goes out of their way to ensure the absentee ballots of servicemen overseas are not counted.

As such, the vets don’t count. Just keep your post, my son. We know what’s best for you.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 10:17:30 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: BAW

Duncan Hunter, voted FOR this
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WHAT?

Nah, that is just too much...... the GOP must be dismantled and destroyed ASAP. We have two years to create a new Party.


22 posted on 12/17/2013 10:17:51 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: TomasUSMC

Kelly Ayotte was on FNC trying to get this out of the bill.

She did not try at the right place.


23 posted on 12/17/2013 10:20:19 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Poundstone
if we call ourselves conservatives, that means not spending money we don't have...SS, Medicare, military spending....its all fair game...

any military benefit cut should be a secondary cut....non military should be cut first....

most of all, in all entities...schools...state...fire depts..police depts...military:....we have to say goodbye to retiring people at 20 or 30 yrs...we just have too...

24 posted on 12/17/2013 10:42:22 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well as a US Navy Vet from the Viet Nam era, I’m very proud of my service to Our GREAT Country back in the sixties.

I did develop a hearing loss at that time and a later request to the VA developed a hearing loss due to active duty aboard ship.

I’m very proud of my service in the US Navy (63-67). My hearing loss over the years is attributed to my time in service.

From my latest hearing test last month revealed that my hearing loss has elevated from a 40 per cent loss to 70 per cent over the past two years. I will be receiving new hearing aids on Dec 20th from the VA.

I urge anyone who might have a medical/physical problem from their Service to continue applying to the VA for further treatment. Your own response may indeed set the wheels in motion for disabled veteran.

Thank You to each and every Veteran for You Service to Our Great Country. I’ll always stand with you!


25 posted on 12/17/2013 11:37:59 PM PST by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I Can Face Tomorrow)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Are McCain and Kerry exempt?


26 posted on 12/18/2013 2:02:03 AM PST by lafarge (Vote American Conservative Party.)
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To: TomasUSMC
"Sounds like the GOP has decided that the veteran vote is not important."

Yes, yet another strategy by the GOPe to throw away part of their natural base and make sure the Rats retain power.

27 posted on 12/18/2013 4:07:42 AM PST by Truth29
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To: cherry

I wouldn’t want a 60 year old fireman trying to carry me or my mom, but have had 60 year old teachers who were great... There is a difference between when teachers & public safety should be allowed to retire, for obvious reasons. However, it seems the teachers always get the better deals.


28 posted on 12/18/2013 4:37:06 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: BAW

Did Duncan Hinter come out for the budget deal or something?
It hasn’t been voted on in the House yet.


29 posted on 12/18/2013 6:12:46 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: lafarge
The Senate voted for Cloture with something like 12 Republicans. Without the Republicans voting with the Dems on cloture, it couldn't have come up. When the vote comes up today, the same Republicans will vote against it and say they couldn't do anything about it, which is NOT true.

Anyone who votes for this spending bill (disguised as a budget bill) needs to be removed in the coming elections, whether R or D.

The cut to the retirement for Vets including the disabled Vets is unconscionable.

30 posted on 12/18/2013 6:22:01 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

I’m wrong. I didn’t realize this monstrosity of a bill already passed the house.


31 posted on 12/18/2013 6:28:05 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: BAW

Sorry, you are much more current than I am. I didn’t realized the House already sold us and all the disabled Vets out.

Does it matter if they have An R or a D? This is insane.


32 posted on 12/18/2013 6:31:58 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Jet Jaguar

So let me get this straight, a veteran leverages their skill and work ethic into a post military job and because of that, they are punished because they are of “working age”?

I guess the next step is to withold their “full pension” until they finally, fully “retire”?

Hell, just think of the savings, waiting for hundreds or thousands to die in the interim. And if they don’t die off before the “retirement age”, then just raise the “retirement age” until you get into the black.

And to think, there are folks on this board who believe this is perfectly reasonable.

That those who stepped up to the plate and made sacrifices in order to serve, should be the FIRST to step up and take it in the A$$ while the takers of this country feel nothing.


33 posted on 12/18/2013 6:49:02 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Poundstone

When you government workers take it in shorts like the military, get back to me. Got all your back pay yet from the days off during sequester?

Until then, spare me the faux rhetoric of “we’re all in this together” bullcrap.

Once again, the military get the shaft first, above and beyond every other segment of society.

When do the takers start feeling the pinch?


34 posted on 12/18/2013 6:54:08 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SkyDancer
Peace, SkyDancer,

But welfare to illegals will continue. What’s wrong with this picture?

Everything. There is no excuse why veterans, including disabled veterans, lose benefits while illegal aliens continue to steal our tax dollars.


James R. McClure Jr.
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

35 posted on 12/18/2013 1:19:52 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: centurion316
Peace, Centurion316,

The military does not vote for Democrats and the Democrats only do what is in their personal and collective best interests. They could care less about the military and prefer to cater to their own constituencies: the indolent, the lazy, the grifters, the criminals, the self indulgent, the useless in society.

I, a Democrat, care about our veterans. I'm running because I care and My opponent voted for this trash. I don't cater to the dependency part of society. I'm a Jeffersonian Anti-Federalist and believe in the founding ideals of a strict interpretation of the Constitution, limited federal power, and State sovereignty.

Those who have sacrificed for their country just do not count in the political equation.

They count in MY political equation. I won't turn My back on those who have sacrificed to keep America free.


James R. McClure Jr
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

36 posted on 12/18/2013 1:28:16 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: ConorMacNessa
Peace, ConorMacNessa,

God bless you for your service, Doc! Oohrah!


James R. McClure Jr. [CM/2, NMCB24 supporting 2MEF, Al Asad 2005]
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

37 posted on 12/18/2013 1:32:11 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: Diver Dave
Peace, Diver Dave,

God bless you for your service!


James R. McClure Jr.
Anti-Federalist candidate for IN9

38 posted on 12/18/2013 1:35:19 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: Jet Jaguar; ExTexasRedhead
Disabled military retirees not exempt from pension cuts in budget deal

Benedict Ryan smiles.


39 posted on 12/18/2013 5:25:07 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Poundstone; ExTexasRedhead; Jim Robinson; F15Eagle

Schumer: Veterans Must Face Budget Cuts, Too

Everybody had to take a little," Schumer said. "They're going to have to pay a tiny, little bit into it, which they never have," he added. But Schumer maintained members of Congress should not be forced to take a pay cut. He said they have already sacrificed, since they have not seen a pay raise "in a long time," and explained most of them are paying more for healthcare insurance. "We have taken pretty big cuts," he said.

40 posted on 12/18/2013 5:33:01 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: James R. McClure Jr.

I thank you for your comments and have no doubt of your sincerity. But, you are no Democrat, at least as the party is currently organized and operating. If you win, you will either find yourself coerced into voting as the party wishes, or you will be completely marginalized. They will destroy you, unless you agree to support their agenda.

When Democrats do support veterans, military retirees, and their families, they do so from a posture of condescension and sanctimonious expressions of superiority. Those stupid enough to volunteer to serve in our nation’s military are to be pitied and reviled, but as Democrats are wont to do, they will be cared for by the magnanimous elites provided that they support the party of the enlightened. Today’s veterans have done what no Democrat could ever do, sacrificed for the good of the country.

You, sir, are in the wrong party.


41 posted on 12/18/2013 6:47:58 PM PST by centurion316
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To: James R. McClure Jr.
Thanks very much for the kind words, Shipmate! And thank you very much for your service!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

42 posted on 12/18/2013 7:26:15 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa
Peace, ConorMacNessa,

It is going to take a bi-partisan push to get to the truth about Benghazi. Eleven months until that bi-partisan push starts!


James R. McClure Jr.
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

43 posted on 12/18/2013 9:40:15 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: centurion316
Peace, Centurion316,

I thank you for your comments and have no doubt of your sincerity. But, you are no Democrat, at least as the party is currently organized and operating.

Thank you for giving Me the benefit of the doubt (others here don't). As My signature says, I'm not a modern Democrat. I'm old school Democrat!

If you win, you will either find yourself coerced into voting as the party wishes, or you will be completely marginalized. They will destroy you, unless you agree to support their agenda.

I expect pressure. I have integrity. If Ted Cruz and Mike Lee can handle the Beltway pressure-cooker, I'll do fine. At worst, I'll be in good company.

Today’s veterans have done what no Democrat could ever do, sacrificed for the good of the country.

Well, I served with both Democrats & Republicans overseas and we all did our part. All veterans make sacrifices above and beyond and should be treated with the respect they have earned.

You, sir, are in the wrong party.

Please, don't call Me, "Sir." I don't outrank you. 8^)
I'm just a concerned citizen answering the call. I've been told I'm in the wrong party before and I'm sure you won't be the last to say so. I believe fervently in the founding principles of the Democratic Party. I intent to restore those principles. After Speaker Boehner's attacks on them, I'm sure that Tea Partyers feel that they may be in the wrong party.


James R. McClure Jr.
Anti-Federalist Democrat candidate for IN9

44 posted on 12/18/2013 9:54:19 PM PST by James R. McClure Jr.
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To: Jet Jaguar
Jet Jaguar - an update. This is the forth or fifth Congressman to issue a statement as of yesterday.

Congressman Ted Yoho is a Republican from the 3rd Congressional District of Florida.

A message from Congressman Ted Yoho

"Additionally, last week I cosponsored legislation that would repeal the provision in the resolution that would affect military pensions. In order to offset that repeal, this legislation would tackle child tax credits that are being sent out fraudulently. By ensuring that recipients have proper Social Security Numbers, we can cut down on fraud and save billions of dollars. That money can then be used to reinstate any effect this legislation had on military pensions. Also, Congress will ensure that retired pay for disabled veterans are not affected as well as those who receive survivor benefits. Finally, I am working on my own legislation to make sure there is parity among any changes to veteran's pensions and Members of Congress and the Administration's pensions. If there is a change to veteran's pensions, so too should there be one for Members of Congress. We have a responsibility to live by the laws we pass. As these bills move forward, rest assured I will keep you informed."

I don't know what the final outcome will be, but I know this. I have a pretty good feel for reading political winds.

The outrage of what Congress did to the military, disabled veterans, and retired military has only begun.

Our elected masters are figuring just that out.

45 posted on 12/23/2013 12:34:45 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Bump


46 posted on 12/23/2013 4:55:12 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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