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Army to cut up to 4,000 captains and majors
Washington Times ^ | 12/17/13 | Douglas Ernst

Posted on 12/17/2013 6:25:20 PM PST by Nachum

The U.S. Army is sending roughly 19,000 active-duty captains and majors to a screening board for early separation this spring, the Army Times reported. Up to 20 percent of those screened — approximately 3,800 officers — could be scheduled to leave the service by the Officer Separation Board and Enhanced Selective Early Retirement Board. Officers with fewer than 18 years of federal active service will have their screening process done by OSB, and those with more than 18 years of service will see the E-SERB, according to the Army Times. “The Army’s drawdown plan is a balanced approach while maintaining

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1 posted on 12/17/2013 6:25:21 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 12/17/2013 6:26:00 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t know about the Majors but they NEED their Captains

CPT’s make up most of the pilots and also Company leaders .
They are invaluable . As long as they are not JAGs

I look forward to the headline : U.S. Military to disband the JAG Corps . That would be a HUGE savings and an immense benefit to our troops .


3 posted on 12/17/2013 6:28:08 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Nachum

Not just the Army:

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20131217/NEWS07/312170022/Air-Force-announces-rollbacks-speed-separations


4 posted on 12/17/2013 6:29:19 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Nachum; All

Need to pare down the Flag officers (Generals) and Colonels. Releasing just Majors and Captains leaves the US Army top-heavy, and, releasing higher ranks means fewer high end salaries


5 posted on 12/17/2013 6:29:33 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Einstein was right)
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To: Nachum

We need more social workers and welfare cases and illegal aliens than people to defend our nation, don’t we?


6 posted on 12/17/2013 6:30:41 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Nachum

They are destroying the continuity (and ability) of our armed services (now and future). Enough said!


7 posted on 12/17/2013 6:31:06 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Nachum

The military did exactly the same thing in the early 1990s, after the end of the Cold War. Both then and now, steep reductions in active duty troop strength require early separation of officers. Simple math.


8 posted on 12/17/2013 6:31:49 PM PST by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

You will have a bigger mess with military justice if you have no JAG. If you just have civil servant attorneys you cannot discipline them like military lawyers.

Better to have lawyers answerable to a courts-martial than lawyers who will have to answer to no one


9 posted on 12/17/2013 6:32:15 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Einstein was right)
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To: Nachum

will they get a trip to hawaii?


10 posted on 12/17/2013 6:32:26 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Nachum

The Army’s drawdown plan is a balanced approach that will get us all killed or allow our enemies an open door. Thier plan is working well


11 posted on 12/17/2013 6:33:34 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: LeoWindhorse

I don’t know about the Majors but they NEED their Captains...


So let me get this straight, when Captains do well and get actually get promoted, its okay to kick ‘em out?


12 posted on 12/17/2013 6:33:50 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Nachum; Bender2

Obviously too many for Obama to boot out on his own.


13 posted on 12/17/2013 6:34:14 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: huldah1776

>>will they get a trip to hawaii?<<

The ones assigned to Pearl, yes.

In the old days they would have Barber’s Point (roaches check in and, well, they just check in — REAL roaches not bad people).


14 posted on 12/17/2013 6:34:55 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: Nachum

just another way to weed out those who might oppose nobama in his upcoming coup before the 2016 elections


15 posted on 12/17/2013 6:34:57 PM PST by ldish (Have had enough...you??????)
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To: rbg81
When I worked in a university setting ... in Cambridge, MA ... I observed that many extremely bright young people arrived on campus as Freshmen. They were noticeably less bright by the time of graduation. Of course, some stayed on and pursued their Master's degree -- they were easy to spot because they knew almost nothing and were confused by simple questions. And obviously you had students in Doctoral programs -- they couldn't work the copy machine.

Based on my knowledge of the Armed Forces, I would say it works the same way.

16 posted on 12/17/2013 6:38:11 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Nachum

Piece by piece the military is being done away with. Getting rid of the most experienced senior military leaders, now the best portion of the experienced mid level leaders. The enlisted ranks have been in the thinning process for years ... multitudes of senior enlisted being forced to leave the ranks.

Without experienced Captains and senior enlisted, you have no military.


17 posted on 12/17/2013 6:38:42 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: Nachum

I imagine Barry needs the money to prepare welcome baskets for his 30 to 45 million illegal aliens when the GOP gives them all amnesty.


18 posted on 12/17/2013 6:41:30 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all my fellow Americans. "Whatever" to everybody else!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

99% of the pilots in the army are not captains they are warrant officers.


19 posted on 12/17/2013 6:42:00 PM PST by superfries
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To: Nachum

The military is being dismantled block by block at an accelerating pace.

We are like a snow ball rolling down a hill going faster and faster until we explode when we hit bottom.

I’m having days now when I feel so heart sick may vomit.


20 posted on 12/17/2013 6:44:07 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Nachum

Obama admin are fools to do this.


21 posted on 12/17/2013 6:48:11 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ldish

Yep. My first thought at seeing the headline was : “They will RIF any that believe in the Constitution, who will keep their Oath, understand Posse Comitatus means and would refuse to fire upon American Citizens.”

They have gotten rid of many of the Generals and Admirals, a bunch of Colonels, that aren’t leftist lapdogs; are working on getting rid of the old types of Sergeant’s Major and First Sergeants, replacing them with militant lesbians in some cases... etc.

They will have to get rid of good Company Commanders too before they can put us under martial law.


22 posted on 12/17/2013 6:51:47 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Nachum

In 1940, the Army had 269,023 (including Air Corps) Navy was at just under 170,000, and there were 28,345 Marines for a total of under 500,000. Today, the army alone (without the Air Corps) is larger than that, and the total is more than 3 times higher.

Perhaps with a smaller military, we wouldn’t feel that we should be the world’s policeman, and we could avoid some of our foreign entanglements.


23 posted on 12/17/2013 6:52:15 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Nachum

Oh, Good, get rid of mega amounts of the military which Hussein hates, and use that saved money to extend unemployment benefits and add more people to it since jobs are disappearing, until 2050.


24 posted on 12/17/2013 6:52:50 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, no doubt about that. So lets put the 2nd Lieutentants in charge. What could go wrong? [/s]

Seriously, though, its pretty cold blooded to imply that someone should be kicked out as a Major, after paying their dues as a Captain—doing the jobs that supposedly need doing.


25 posted on 12/17/2013 6:53:26 PM PST by rbg81
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The "O"pologists will be by in seconds to reassure us that this is perfectly normal, and nothing to worry about, all real presidents do this, and it isn't actually happening...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

26 posted on 12/17/2013 6:57:40 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Nachum

I know a number of officers leaving ASAP anyway. Actually, I know a number of service members leaving, officers and otherwise. I was stunned that a prior infantry Marine that had attended the Army Ranger school and Marine Scout/Sniper school then went on to become an Army Warrant Officer 4 Apache pilot that then became a Personnel Recovery officer, and has only 21 years in, decided to retire this month. He has an outstanding and remarkable career with multiple combat tours and he finds it is time to leave. No real reason, just the Army has become unpalatable anymore. Sad, just sad.


27 posted on 12/17/2013 6:59:48 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Nachum
approximately 3,800 officers — could be scheduled to leave the service by the Officer Separation Board and Enhanced Selective Early Retirement Board.

They keyword here is 'could'. I remember a few years back in the Navy (where I serve) there was a big whip-de-doo about 'thousands of Chiefs" facing retention boards. In the end, I think about 18 of them were canned.

I'll reserve my outrage until I see what happens.

And if anyone thinks this is part of Obama's mythological "military purge" please save it... It's not.

28 posted on 12/17/2013 7:01:24 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Sequoyah101

“The military is being dismantled block by block at an accelerating pace.”

Yep. Those Captains and Majors are “old skool”. Obama wants those O1 and O2 “new skool” types to be promoted ASAP.


29 posted on 12/17/2013 7:01:55 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Nachum

I’m not necessarily against a smaller military. I’d like to see them cut bureaucrats, too. The Department of Ed, root and branch, to start with.

But I really HATE to see this happen while Obama is in charge. He is busy wrecking the military already, and you can bet that he and his communist stooges will make sure that only the best officers go, while the time-servers and bootlickers stay.

Or, of course, those willing to turn their troops against the American people.


30 posted on 12/17/2013 7:02:40 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Active Duty/Retiree ping.


31 posted on 12/17/2013 7:03:06 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: ClearCase_guy

We are looking at about a 10% reduction in force size in 2014.


32 posted on 12/17/2013 7:07:34 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum

This is nothing new. It happened after World War I, after World War II, after Korea, after Vietnam, after the First Gulf War. The politicians decide that they don’t need an Army and the cuts begin. In every single case, every single case, the threats to this country raise their ugly heads and the Army is called upon once again to do their duty. The price of buying votes for the politicians is the lives of the young men and women that are sacrificed as the Army gets back to level needed to do its job.

Soldiers, not politicians pay the price.


33 posted on 12/17/2013 7:07:51 PM PST by centurion316
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To: LegendHasIt

My first thought too.


34 posted on 12/17/2013 7:15:22 PM PST by Daffy
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To: Nachum

I’d bet $100 they’re all right aligned, politically

remove right aligned command staff... promote left aligned... and before you know it, you’ve got the ss


35 posted on 12/17/2013 7:15:48 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Nachum

The need to get rid of 90% of the Generals. Almost all of them are political suck-ups who went along with the “buggerization” of the armed forces.


36 posted on 12/17/2013 7:32:23 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: PAR35
Perhaps with a smaller military, we wouldn’t feel that we should be the world’s policeman, and we could avoid some of our foreign entanglements.

AMEN - and don't cut the pensions for those that have EARNED it.

37 posted on 12/17/2013 7:33:17 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 3Fingas
Bingo with that comment too !!!
38 posted on 12/17/2013 7:34:50 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: LeoWindhorse; jagusafr
I look forward to the headline : U.S. Military to disband the JAG Corps . That would be a HUGE savings and an immense benefit to our troops .

You have no idea what you are talking about.

39 posted on 12/17/2013 7:38:04 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: null and void

Just think - they can all be officers in the guerilla army.


40 posted on 12/17/2013 7:53:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: PAR35
In 1940,

That worked out for us the next two years.

41 posted on 12/17/2013 7:59:55 PM PST by xone
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To: Nachum

Each will have an amicus curae brief by an anonymous contributor nicknamed “BHO.”


42 posted on 12/17/2013 8:16:29 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: centurion316

Your history is exactly on point - I got to see how it worked for two of those iterations and saw how it affected the Army. It always creates paroxysms in the officer development and promotion system, only to repeat it again when the politicians can’t see beyond the end of their nose. One iteration you left out was the round of post-Cold War cuts that affected personnel issues in the run-up to Gulf War One.


43 posted on 12/17/2013 8:19:13 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Nachum

How many DOD desk jobs are they cutting?


44 posted on 12/17/2013 8:44:21 PM PST by Hugin
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To: ldish
just another way to weed out those who might oppose nobama in his upcoming coup before the 2016 elections

That is my cynical prediction. I would be very, very interested to know what questions the boards ask, what criteria they state they are using, and what they are really using. Probably nothing overt, but lots of questions around topics that would let them know if they could "count on" the officer to obey orders from above, regardless.

45 posted on 12/17/2013 8:53:59 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: PAR35
In 1940, the Army had 269,023 (including Air Corps) Navy was at just under 170,000, and there were 28,345 Marines for a total of under 500,000. Today, the army alone (without the Air Corps) is larger than that, and the total is more than 3 times higher.

Japan attacked us December 7, 1941. If we had of been strong military on December 7, 1941 Japan would not have attacked.

46 posted on 12/17/2013 8:54:28 PM PST by cpdiii
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To: Nachum

We need to know if there’s a pattern...


47 posted on 12/17/2013 9:06:52 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: LeoWindhorse

The U.S. military is about to send much of its combat experience out the gate. Many of the Captains and Majors facing a SERB board cut their teeth as platoon leaders and company commanders in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. They’re the ones that made the surge a success and had the Taliban on the defensive until Comrade Obama entered office and implemented policies that reversed those gains.

And these junior-to-mid-level officers aren’t alone. Due to budget cuts, even more E-5s and E-6s are getting the boot. Many of them have 7-12 years of experience and they also learned the ropes in places like western Iraq, the neighborhoods of Baghdad and Helmand Province. They are the soldiers who were squad leaders in those places and now platoon sergeants or staff NCOs. Many planned to make the Army a career, now they are being forced out with no concern for the experience we are losing.

We are setting ourselves up for an Army that will lose critical combat and leadership experience in the years to come. True, not all junior officers and mid-level NCOs will be mustered out, but we will lose enough so that many units won’t have enough experienced personnel to ensure continuity of operations and prevent us from having to learn some of the hard lessons over again.

It’s a familiar refrain in American military history. It was only 24 years from Pershing’s Army to Kasserine Pass and only five years between the defeat of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan to the debacle of Task Force Smith. I wonder how many soldiers will die in some future conflict because the experienced battalion or brigade commander or command sergeant major was forced out the Army a decade earlier.


48 posted on 12/17/2013 9:30:04 PM PST by ExNewsExSpook
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To: CodeToad

Yep, Gay and Female new skool types.


49 posted on 12/17/2013 10:08:25 PM PST by Sequoyah101
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To: Nachum

I remember back in the late 1970s when there was a big RIF coming up for a lot of Captains and Majors in the army with less than 18 years in service. The policy was that an officer being riffed had to be personally notified prior to the end of the 18th year.

One major I knew had a buddy at the Pentagon who called him with the bad news. The good news was that if he went on a 45 day leave and couldn’t be found, he’d get to 18 years and be safe until he was able to retire.


50 posted on 12/17/2013 10:34:05 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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