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AP survey: US income gap is holding back economy
Associated Press ^ | Dec. 17, 2013 5:13 PM EST | Christopher S. Rugaber

Posted on 12/18/2013 2:20:18 AM PST by Olog-hai

The growing gap between the richest Americans and everyone else isn’t bad just for individuals.

It’s hurting the U.S. economy.

So says a majority of more than three dozen economists surveyed last week by The Associated Press. Their concerns tap into a debate that’s intensified as middle-class pay has stagnated while wealthier households have thrived.

A key source of the economists’ concern: Higher pay and outsize stock market gains are flowing mainly to affluent Americans. Yet these households spend less of their money than do low- and middle-income consumers who make up most of the population but whose pay is barely rising. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christophersrugaber; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills
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To: LibLieSlayer
No kidding. What kind of malarkey is that?

I had to read the headline a few times to be sure I was reading it right.

21 posted on 12/18/2013 3:47:18 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority...")
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To: Olog-hai
a majority of more than three dozen economists surveyed

Three dozen? Sounds like they polled the professors and graduate students at some school, somewhere.

(Yes, if congress just raised the minimum wage to $100, everyone would be rich!)

They won't talk about the "education gap" between rich and poor, and how dysfunctional, unionized urban school systems keep the poor, poor.

22 posted on 12/18/2013 3:47:41 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Olog-hai

These are the dull economists who think there is only a finite amount of wealth and every dollar Bill Gates has is a dollar I don’t have. Jealousy and envy is what drives the left.


23 posted on 12/18/2013 3:49:33 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Olog-hai

My income is unequal to Warren Buffet’s

gimme some


24 posted on 12/18/2013 3:49:56 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: LibLieSlayer

The technical term for what these economists are doing is “mental masturbation”.

The only possible effective way to address income inequality is to have the Fed stop interfering with interest rates. With higher interest rates there would be an incentive to save and create capital that can be used productively.

Unfortunately this isn’t possible because the slightest increase in interest rates would make servicing the massive government debt impossible. Thus money continues to be printed, inflating stock market and real estate values and creating an illusion of a viable economy.

Remember - the solution to economic distortions caused by government intervention is always more government intervention!


25 posted on 12/18/2013 3:50:50 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: Gen.Blather

Financial institutions like banks and insurance companies employ lots of economists.


26 posted on 12/18/2013 3:51:54 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: Olog-hai

Look for earned stock income to be added to the earned income wealth redistribution program to share the gains with those that own no stocks. It’s only fair. The poor would have owned stocks, if they had the money to invest. It’s not fair that stock investors get all of the gains.

(sarcasm off)


27 posted on 12/18/2013 3:52:32 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Olog-hai
Sending home invaders and stopping the flood of both legal and illegal foreign labor would close that gap, at least somewhat.

Ya' think maybe the elite, whatever political role they play like being the elite and plan to keep it that way?

28 posted on 12/18/2013 3:52:35 AM PST by grania
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To: All

here we go again..


29 posted on 12/18/2013 3:53:51 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Olog-hai
Methinks there is a confusion of variables and measurement at work here. One would need to see the questions asked of the economists, as opposed to the spin imparted by reporter. The economy is indeed held back by the large numbers of people stuck at the bottom. We have seen massive increases in long term unemployment and disability, as well as underemployment. But this has nothing to do with inequality per se.

Growth in upper income brackets is not the cause of the underclass being stuck on zero, and income redistribution from the top quintile to the lower two quintiles will not remedy the situation. In fact, redistribution will probably exacerbate the problem in the long run by making people more comfortable with long term dependency.

The issue is how to get the welfare classes working, and moving upward. This would indeed be good for the economy, and it would indeed reduce income inequality. The left has only one play in its playbook, but increasing welfare benefits is not the answer.

30 posted on 12/18/2013 3:55:23 AM PST by sphinx
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yep—60% of them claim Obamacare will have no effect on the economy. None of them, at least, could bring themselves to claim it would be a boost to the economy. The AP of course found the 40% who admitted to the harm to be marginal, of course.


31 posted on 12/18/2013 3:57:01 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: muir_redwoods

“Financial institutions like banks and insurance companies employ lots of economists.”

If they do, they probably don’t employee communists like the ones quoted. (Companies that need accurate weather predictions do not use the National Weather Service. Governments don’t know sh*t about how things really work, whether it’s weather prediction, website building or economics.)


32 posted on 12/18/2013 4:00:07 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Olog-hai

Crony Capitalism


33 posted on 12/18/2013 4:02:51 AM PST by cp124 (Government is value subtracted.)
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To: 9YearLurker

First, if having a degree in economics somehow imparted someone with special knowledge that allowed them to determine the best course for making the economy thrive - there would be a high demand for economists at all levels of business. However, most of the economists we know are theoreticians who work at universities, or go from a university environment to government. There’s a reason there aren’t a ton of jobs for economists in the private sector. The reason? They don’t appear to be very useful in helping businesses thrive.

Regarding income distribution, we need to be concentrating on how we can make more pies, not how we are going to slice up the pie we have. More pies, bigger slices for everyone.


34 posted on 12/18/2013 4:11:08 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Indeed!


35 posted on 12/18/2013 4:12:21 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Junk Silver

Yes and all of these communist economists hate Capitalism and are flaming socialist keynesian drones. They worship big intrusive government and wealth redistribution. Those that are free market believers are NEVER quoted.


36 posted on 12/18/2013 4:14:35 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Olog-hai
Yet these households spend less of their money than do low- and middle-income consumers

No, the government spends half the rich people's income, much of it sacrificed on the alter of sloth never to be seen from again. Without the small percentage of high income earners the government would go bankrupt in 3 days.

37 posted on 12/18/2013 4:14:37 AM PST by Reeses
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To: 9YearLurker

But of course. They also polled only those that they knew would answer “correctly”.


38 posted on 12/18/2013 4:15:31 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
These would be communist economists that worship keynes.

Not necessarily. The wealthy are reaping the benefits of QE, while the middle class suffer inflation.

39 posted on 12/18/2013 4:18:04 AM PST by D Rider
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To: Fzob

Bingo.

Obama is screwing the Middle Class every day, but remember unemployment insurance will grow our economy.


40 posted on 12/18/2013 4:22:22 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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