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Pew: Liberal support for Obama at all-time low, worse than George W. Bush and conservatives
Washington Examiner ^ | December 18, 2013 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 12/18/2013 4:07:26 AM PST by Biggirl

Following on the heels of other political groups, President Obama's liberal base is abandoning him, giving him an even lower level of support from his base than George W. Bush had from conservatives five years into his presidency, according to a new Pew Research Center poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2013polls; bho44; bhojobapproval; conservatives; liberal; liberals; pew
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1 posted on 12/18/2013 4:07:26 AM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

If he thinks it’s bad now wait until Jan 1st. when all of those who had insurance find they have none.


2 posted on 12/18/2013 4:09:50 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Venturer

In other words, a clue to what direction the 2014 midterm elections are going to head to.


3 posted on 12/18/2013 4:11:44 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

I hope so.

We should be chasing Democrats down the streets with tar and feathers.

Problem is half those who got screwed haven’t even realized it yet.


4 posted on 12/18/2013 4:16:17 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Venturer

Obama’s insurance purge is going to cost thousands of lives. Stalin would be envious.


5 posted on 12/18/2013 4:16:32 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Biggirl
OMG! How terrible!

He should get on Air Force One and go make a speech somewhere! Get in front of a crowd of "organized union dupes" wearing laudatory T-shirts and tell us to believe he is the most wonderful President ever.

6 posted on 12/18/2013 4:17:23 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Biggirl

As long as Obamacare is law, he wins. Everything else is noise.


7 posted on 12/18/2013 4:17:31 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

....Or so he claims.


8 posted on 12/18/2013 4:19:52 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SC_Pete

In 2014, the Senate WILL get a conservative GOP majority. The House will get even more conservative.


9 posted on 12/18/2013 4:20:50 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SC_Pete

Exactly. I honestly don’t think he gives a crap at all about these polls.


10 posted on 12/18/2013 4:20:56 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: SC_Pete
As long as Obamacare is law, he wins. Everything else is noise.

Yep. For five years people have been posting the latest shocking poll numbers in Breaking News and talking about how Obama has lost the support of this group or that one. The 2012 election should have taught everyone that it doesn't matter.

11 posted on 12/18/2013 4:21:19 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: jimbo123

With the “results” coming back to him in LOSING the Senate and still KEEPING CONTROL of the House.


12 posted on 12/18/2013 4:21:58 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Venturer

.....Not until right after January 1st.


13 posted on 12/18/2013 4:23:16 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
In 2014, the Senate WILL get a conservative GOP majority.

I'm afraid I'm not that optimistic. A conservative GOP majority would mean that the Republicans will have at least 51 seats and that over half of those will be conservatives. Can you name the 26 conservative GOP senators or senate candidates who would make up that majority? Please keep in mind that many of the GOP senators won't vote with the party anyway so you might not even have 51 votes most of the time.

14 posted on 12/18/2013 4:26:37 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: Biggirl

And then Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan will bail out ObamaCare just in time for Hillary’s 2016 coronation...


15 posted on 12/18/2013 4:27:09 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: cld51860

He doesn’t even care about the House or the Senate. He is a egomaniacal sociopath. If Obamacare stands, we become a socialist country. Once that happens, America is dead. Our Republic will be lost.


16 posted on 12/18/2013 4:32:34 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete
As long as Obamacare is law, he wins. Everything else is noise.

Who is going to stop him? Boehner? Rove? Bush? Christie? Ryan? Santa Claus?

17 posted on 12/18/2013 4:32:39 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Biggirl

I just do not see Washington as the solution. They are corrupted faster than we can vote them out: Ryan, Rubio and Toomey as recent examples. Article V. is the only way we even have a chance.


18 posted on 12/18/2013 4:36:04 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Biggirl

Liberals should be jumping up and down with joy as the clown POTUS continues his fundamental transformation of the American Republic into a weak Leftist managerie of christians hating homos and racially-charged class division politics.


19 posted on 12/18/2013 4:37:45 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: cld51860

Obamacare is the key. As Lenin said, “Medicine is the keystone of the arc of socialism.”

Obama will now proceed to issue regulations, EOs, and appoint radical judges without the approval of the American people. The damage he will do in the next 2 plus years will be incalculable. Who’s to stop him? John Boehner?


20 posted on 12/18/2013 4:42:16 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Biggirl

Wow.. Will Blitzer rpaeat this breathlessly 31 times over a three hour period on CNN, like he did when Bush hit 38%?


21 posted on 12/18/2013 4:42:40 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Biggirl

At the 2008 presidential debate in Nashville, Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted into the monumental fraud known as the “Affordable Care Act.” “No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

DEMOCRATS CHIME IN:

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the chairman’s mark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “…it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.”(Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)


22 posted on 12/18/2013 4:43:49 AM PST by Liz
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POSTER HUMS THEME FROM "JAWS" White House chief of staff Denis McDonough held an unpublicized meeting with Sen. Michael Bennet (DIMWIT-Colo), chairman of the Senate Democrats’ campaign arm, amid anger and anxiety that ObamaCare’s botched rollout could cost the party its majority next year.

In the meeting, requested by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC), McDonough and Bennet discussed what the White House could do to help vulnerable Senate Democrats and “talked a/bout developing a stronger relationship with the White House.”

Democratic senators fear the White House is not sympathetic enough to their plight. After the government shutdown, they were confident they would retain the Senate, but optimism vanished as problems with the healthcare law mounted.

POSTER HUMS "HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN" “I know these guys are nervous as hell. I mean, all of their jobs are on the line because this is the thing making the biggest waves lately. It’s a nightmare.”

23 posted on 12/18/2013 4:49:46 AM PST by Liz
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To: Biggirl

The only good thing we got from GWB to my knowledge is Justice Alito. There was a small tax break early in the administration? Did I forget something. Now nephew George P. is calling himself “very conservative”. And I bet Texas primary voters buy it too!


24 posted on 12/18/2013 4:51:09 AM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: jimbo123

Many who will die will never know their cause of
death.


25 posted on 12/18/2013 4:51:50 AM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: SC_Pete

If that happens, safe to say, revolt to happen.


26 posted on 12/18/2013 4:52:26 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: jimbo123

People in KY and WI will never undertand the true McC and Ryan; we cannot convince them.


27 posted on 12/18/2013 4:53:18 AM PST by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs are flirting with Christie, but it's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: Venturer
Problem is half those who got screwed haven’t even realized it yet.

Very true, and they won't have a clue as to who's at fault, so the "media" will happily fill that informational void with "it's-the-GOP's-fault" messaging.

28 posted on 12/18/2013 4:54:10 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Pan_Yan

Obama was chosen by Soros and the LEFTIST movement as the perfect candidate: a narcissistic sociopath filled with rage, resentment, and visceral hatred for the West.

Dinesh D’Souza said it best [Forbes, Sept. 2010]:

“...[O]ur President is trapped in his father’s time machine. Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation’s agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father’s dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost.”


29 posted on 12/18/2013 4:55:33 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: All

Safe to say, I could end up being RIGHT in all this in my predictions.


30 posted on 12/18/2013 4:55:58 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: All

My goodness, why all this PESSEMISSIEM for?


31 posted on 12/18/2013 4:58:26 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

It is happening now as we speak. And the Republican Party response? They cut a bad budget deal and attack the base. Why? To save their phony baloney jobs. The Republican establishment is facilitating this slide into oblivion—they just want to get their piece of the action before the collapse.

There is only one party in Washington: the Re-Election Party, dedicated to the personal enrichment of its members at taxpayer expense.


32 posted on 12/18/2013 5:03:24 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Liz

One more to add:

SEN. MARK WARNER (D-VA): ”Let me make clear, I’m not going to support a health care reform plan that’s going to take away health care that you’ve got right now or a health plan that you like.” (2009)


33 posted on 12/18/2013 5:04:42 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Biggirl

Yes I expect a lot of people will be shocked when they get to the Doctors office or when they check out of the hospital on Jan 3rd.


34 posted on 12/18/2013 5:04:45 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: SC_Pete

.....Or rather before the conservative take-over. No collaspe, conservative take-over


35 posted on 12/18/2013 5:05:00 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Venturer

Yep and that will fuel a LOT of anger BIGTIME.


36 posted on 12/18/2013 5:05:58 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

You. And me. Or no one.


37 posted on 12/18/2013 5:06:03 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: broken_arrow1

All is going according to plan:

1. Destroy the Bourgeoisie Middle Class and fundamentally transform them to neo-Proletariat by wrecking the economy.

2. Increase unemployment and promote addiction dependence on their wealth-destroying entitlements. Democrats can then move their neo-Proletariat and Amnestied Illegals onto their entitlement plantation in exchange for votes.

3. At the same time create unsustainable debt until the economy collapses via Cloward-Piven strategy. Declare the Constitution null-and-void, and then be ready to pick up the pieces and fundamentally transform the former USA into their new Communist Utopian society.

4. The DHS and NSA are readying for the day Martial Law is imposed on us. The military has also been fundamentally transformed to enforce Police State control when the SHTF day arrives, which sadly is approaching quickly.


38 posted on 12/18/2013 5:06:10 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

If that happens, look for a REVOLT to start.


39 posted on 12/18/2013 5:07:34 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: ScottinVA

Ditch that one——all the quotes posted were parroting Obama.

Last thing we need is anti-O/Care Dem quotes cluttering up Dems’ bleak 2014 landscape.


40 posted on 12/18/2013 5:10:06 AM PST by Liz
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To: Biggirl

It’s focus, not pessimism.


41 posted on 12/18/2013 5:10:44 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> liberal base is abandoning him, giving him an even lower level of support from his base than George W. Bush had from conservatives five years into his presidency...

They don’t believe he’s gone far enough with his IRS, NSA, and DHS harassment of “tea-baggers” and “right-wingers”, and that is the ONLY problem they have with the Kenyan. Thanks Biggirl.


42 posted on 12/18/2013 5:11:54 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SC_Pete

I view it rather that when winter ends, spring begins, my focus.


43 posted on 12/18/2013 5:12:51 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: SunkenCiv

Your welcome!


44 posted on 12/18/2013 5:13:23 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

“......4. The DHS and NSA are readying for the day Martial Law is imposed on us. The military has also been fundamentally transformed to enforce Police State control when the SHTF day arrives, which sadly is approaching quickly.”..

There are those “minions” who will follow the direction of their gubmint leaders but I firmly believe there are MANY who will NOT and very possibly may turn to support the side of “We, The People”. Why do you think they want to get total control of all guns and ammuntion? Certainly it is not to avoid some accident on the 4th of july.


45 posted on 12/18/2013 5:13:59 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: SunkenCiv

POLLS, he’s STILL @ 1600 Penn Ave


46 posted on 12/18/2013 5:14:47 AM PST by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: Progov

I still predict that down the road a revolt will come if the issues of concern are not resolved in due course of time.


47 posted on 12/18/2013 5:16:30 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Obama proclaimed that he was the one that they’d been waiting for,

and they believed him.

He tried to implement utopian socialism, and it is having miserable effects, so,

he must not be the one to “do it right”.

Next socialist, please?


48 posted on 12/18/2013 5:18:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

....Or rather they are begining to wake up and smell the coffee.


49 posted on 12/18/2013 5:19:42 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Pan_Yan
In 2014, the Senate WILL get a conservative GOP majority.

I'm afraid I'm not that optimistic delusional

There, much more accurate...

50 posted on 12/18/2013 5:21:32 AM PST by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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