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How the vitamin industrial complex swindled America
The Week ^ | 12/18/13 | Peter Weber

Posted on 12/18/2013 8:57:00 PM PST by artichokegrower

Q

uestions about the health benefits of vitamin supplements have been percolating in the medical establishment for decades — even as the multivitamin industry has grown to a multi-billion powerhouse in the U.S. This week, the respected journal the Annals of Internal Medicine put its well-heeled foot down.

"We believe that the case is closed — supplementing the diet of well-nourished adults with (most) mineral or vitamin supplements has no clear benefit and might even be harmful," the journal said in an editorial. "These vitamins should not be used for chronic disease prevention. Enough is enough."

Here's Dr. Edgar Miller of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, one of the editorial's five co-authors: "What will protect you is if you spend the money on fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, low fat dairy, things like that," Miller tells CBS News. "Exercising would probably be a better use of the money." The only exceptions are folic acid for pregnant women and, possibly, vitamin D — the studies are mixed on its benefits and risks.

Assuming Miller and his colleagues are right — and they base their assertion on three large, recent studies — Americans have been wasting lots of money on vitamins. About half of U.S. adults take dietary supplements, and the vitamin industry has grown to $12 billion a year for vitamins alone and about $30 billion for all dietary supplements. That's just in the U.S.

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KEYWORDS: agenda21; antisupplementscam; bigpharma; codex; fda; fdacontrol; followthemoney; nutrition; scam; supplements; synthenticgmo; un; unagenda; vitamins
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1 posted on 12/18/2013 8:57:00 PM PST by artichokegrower
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Big Pharm is just going after the 30 billion dollar market and trying to use the FDA as there personal guild thugs.


2 posted on 12/18/2013 8:58:22 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: DariusBane

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3 posted on 12/18/2013 8:58:57 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: artichokegrower

The Big Pharma monolith is on the anti-vitamin warpath.


4 posted on 12/18/2013 8:58:58 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: artichokegrower

“We believe that the case is closed — supplementing the diet of well-nourished adults with (most) mineral or vitamin supplements has no clear benefit and might even be harmful,”

Key word there is “well-nourished”.


5 posted on 12/18/2013 9:00:49 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: artichokegrower
Vitamin fortified unrine is good for the fish and gives your kidneys a good baseline of operation. Liver too!

As for any health benefit to the person of good diet and overall health, vitamins are just expensive colored urine.

6 posted on 12/18/2013 9:02:20 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: DariusBane

Big Pharma needs a customer base of sick people to buy their disease products. The natural health industry reduces that customer base.


7 posted on 12/18/2013 9:03:27 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: artichokegrower

Oh well, Big Pharma to the rescue...

sniff, sniff...(the author)


8 posted on 12/18/2013 9:06:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Big Pharma doesn’t want to cure anything. Big Pharma wants steady predictable monthly sales... Repeat customers.


9 posted on 12/18/2013 9:07:28 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: artichokegrower
""What will protect you is if you spend the money on fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, low fat dairy, things like that," Miller tells"

This dude obviously has not eaten any fresh fruits or vegetables lately. Sure they look pretty and are perfect but they taste like cardboard. I wasn't aware that fruit picked when they're still green have their full nutritional value. then there's GMO foods. Are they as nutritious as their original source??

How much is Hopkins receiving from obama?

10 posted on 12/18/2013 9:13:41 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: artichokegrower

Course these are the same agenda-driven half-wits that conduct studies whose data indicate salt won’t hurt you, then claim in the report it’s deadly, so YMMV.....


11 posted on 12/18/2013 9:14:34 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: artichokegrower

I probably spend a total of $100/year for supplements which I purchase from Costco. That covers a multi-vitamin, Glucosamine-Chondroitin, a supplement that includes a number of other things, and saw palmetto.

Only thing I don’t get at Costco is DHEA - 50 mg/day.

This stuff does work, and if I don’t take them for a couple of weeks, I really notice it.

No one is getting rich off of me in this area.

I’m 60 and in excellent health.


12 posted on 12/18/2013 9:15:45 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: artichokegrower
I think the study results are being distorted.

There are real benefits to certain vitamins and supplements, even if wholesale use of multivitamins will not prevent cancer or heart disease.

Where I live there is a real shortage of vitamin D. Niacinamide can help with arthritis. Vitamins and supplements have there place in modern health, but are not a magic solution.

13 posted on 12/18/2013 9:16:03 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Robert357

Like most things, I guess. That sounds like a balanced view.


14 posted on 12/18/2013 9:17:11 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: artichokegrower
As P.T Barnum said there's "Sucker born every minute"

Yup it's sad how dumbed-down we've become as a society.

15 posted on 12/18/2013 9:17:52 PM PST by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks - literally or metaphorically, you decide.)
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To: DariusBane
"Big Pharm is just going after the 30 billion dollar market and trying to use the FDA as there personal guild thugs."

I'm glad you put forth the truth at the top of this thread.

Rx has it's place, but we all know for a fact that humans need vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and enzymes to sustain life. We don't need Rx to sustain life.

Vitamins/Minerals are well known, hard to produce, but relatively cheep. Exactly the opposite for drugs.

16 posted on 12/18/2013 9:23:14 PM PST by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: blackdog

The good health population is probably not more than 10% of the population overall.


17 posted on 12/18/2013 9:24:32 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: headstamp 2

Eat good meals and you do not need vitamen supplements, in fact they can be harmful. People who eat them like candy are in danger of over-dosing.

Eat a decent diet, you will be fine. I’m far from vegan, I eat lots of meat along with plenty of veggies, I’m fond of brussel sprouts and lima beans, but whatever suits your taste.


18 posted on 12/18/2013 9:29:39 PM PST by Barkeep99
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To: artichokegrower

I have never been able to detect the slightest benefit from taking multivitamins. It appears money spent on them quite literally is down the toilet.


19 posted on 12/18/2013 9:32:09 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: uncommonsense

I am 44. I take NO drugs except the occasional analgesic. Everybody I know and work with takes handfuls of drugs every day. Some of the drugs are to counteract other drug side effects. These azzhats want to point the finger at the natural foods and vitamin industry? When I get sick I treat the illness. I have not taken an antibiotic in 10 years.

My parents are in their 70’s. They take NO drugs. None. Before you blame genetics. Dad, is Stepdad. But they treat with alternative medicines when sick.

A Conservative argument: Government wants to take away the choice of how I treat illness and maintain health. That comes under Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Choice IS freedom.

This war on the Natural Foods and Health industry is spawned on K street, who is using the present occupier of the Oval Orifice and his propensity to make deals with corporate entities. That’s why the big push is on. This is just the start.


20 posted on 12/18/2013 9:32:40 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: DariusBane
Big Pharma doesn’t want to cure anything. Big Pharma wants steady predictable monthly sales... Repeat customers.

They've done amazingly well in this regard, pertaining to psychiatry. Some of the meds prescribed are wicked for the hope they promise, and the side effects they cause.

Having personal friends taking these, I just wish someone could convince me that I'm wrong.

21 posted on 12/18/2013 9:36:27 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: artichokegrower

Multi-vitamins are indeed almost useless because the amounts of the active ingredients are insufficient to accomplish specific nutritional objectives. Virtually all Americans are deficient in B vitamins, vitamin d3 and omega 3. Countless properly structured studies have validated the benefits of supplementation with substantially higher dosages than occur in a multi-vitamin. 12% of our 20k genes are switched on or of by vitamin d3. Omega 3 has prevented 40% of sudden cardiac deaths in a well structured study of at risk humans.
B vitamins are essential for normal brain functions.


22 posted on 12/18/2013 9:38:46 PM PST by kruss3
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To: James C. Bennett

I have family members and friends who ride the dosage roller coaster. Constantly being “adjusted” and are perpetually adding new fun cocktails to keep “fix” things caused by meds.


23 posted on 12/18/2013 9:39:37 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: artichokegrower

Besides *vitamins* - there’s **herbs** and OTHER such supplements - that do VERY MUCH GOOD.

Just PROVEN - sorry, big pharma.

(Take a listen to 1st hour of www.CoasttoCoastAM last night - yes ~

LAST SHOW RECAP : In the first hour, Dr. Joel Wallach reacted to the recent study which claims that vitamins provide no memory or heart benefits.


24 posted on 12/18/2013 9:47:19 PM PST by PraiseTheLord (have you seen the fema camps, shackle box cars, thousands of guillotines, stacks of coffins ~)
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To: artichokegrower

The only exceptions are folic acid for pregnant women and, possibly, vitamin D — the studies are mixed on its benefits and risks. <<

It’s a closed book, except...

They don’t spend money on these studies. They spend money on drug studies.

The exceptions per the Linus Pauling Institute...

Women of childbearing age (folate, vitamin D, iron)
Pregnant and lactating women (vitamin B6, folate, vitamin D, iron)
People who consume <1,200 cal/day (multiple micronutrients)
Obese individuals (multiple micronutrients)
Infants, children, and adolescents (vitamin D)
People with dark-colored skin (vitamin D)
Those who cover all exposed skin or using sunscreen whenever outside (vitamin D)
Older adults (vitamin B12, vitamin D, zinc)
Low socioeconomic status (multiple micronutrients)
Patients who have had bariatric surgery (multiple micronutrients)
Patients with fat malabsorption syndromes (fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E, and K)
Alcoholics (vitamin A, B vitamins)
Smokers (vitamins C and E)
Vegans and those with limited intake of animal products (vitamin B12, vitamin D, calcium)
People taking medications that interfere with the absorption and/or metabolism of certain micronutrients (e.g., proton pump inhibitors used to treat heartburn may impair vitamin B12 absorption (36); frequent aspirin use can lower vitamin C status (37)).
People whose diets are not adherent to the USDA food plate (formerly food pyramid)—the vast majority of Americans (multiple micronutrients)

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/multivitamin-mineral.html

It’s a little more rigorous list.

DK


25 posted on 12/18/2013 9:48:01 PM PST by Dark Knight
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To: DariusBane

It’s women who are affected most - they tend to articulate better and are more willing to open up to the shrinks - and consequently get experimented with drugs and dosages more.

One friend literally ballooned in weight by over 180lbs in a span of 2 years and her doc doesn’t seem to think it could be the meds. He puts her on wild assortments of antidepressants (lexapro), anti-psychotics, sleep aids and appetite suppressants. Worse still, she trusts him.


26 posted on 12/18/2013 9:48:24 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: headstamp 2

red wine, dark chocolate laced with chili and sometimes almonds are my choice of supplements...


27 posted on 12/18/2013 9:49:21 PM PST by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: James C. Bennett

My wife’s sister is on a cocktail of the same. She has gained at least 50 pounds in the last year or two, and is swollen up and looks pretty hideous. Nothing like ruining the looks of a gal to get her self esteem up huh?


28 posted on 12/18/2013 9:50:56 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: artichokegrower

Not to worry.

Wait ten years and there will be a new study issued with the exact opposite conclusion.

That’s how science is.


29 posted on 12/18/2013 9:55:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: artichokegrower

The study was no good. Too many people quit the study.


30 posted on 12/18/2013 9:56:06 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: DariusBane

Likewise, here too.

You’ll weep if you see pictures of this friend from today and five years prior.

From talking to her I know her depression is rooted in a self-image problem, exacerbated by the weight gain and the cycle it has trapped her in. I see those docs as covered in guilt, but don’t know if I am right to assume. How can these morons not be aware of the problems the drugs cause to the depressed that harm self-image? It’s the worst cruelty.


31 posted on 12/18/2013 9:58:04 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: artichokegrower

Has nothing to do with vitamins, and everything to do with expanding FDA control.

Yes, proper diet is the best way to get vitamins. Tens of million people live alone in this nation. They don’t eat diverse meals. They do need supplements.

One brain-trust trashing vitamins today had this to say...

“These vitamins are a waste of time. What with a diversified source of foods, and fortified milk, folks don’t need vitamin supplements”

Unwittingly he had just endorsed vitamin additives in milk.

These guys are lying their asses off.

Vitamin supplements are important as long as people don’t go nuts with them.

And for the record, food is great, but people also go nuts overeating too.


32 posted on 12/18/2013 9:59:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Reagan 1980: Shining city on a hill / RNC 2013: Dim flickering candle in a dark deserted dungeon.)
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To: artichokegrower

Big Drugs has always been against vitamins. Always. They want people sick so the can get wealthy off them.


33 posted on 12/18/2013 9:59:36 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: artichokegrower

I just know there are a few vitamins that help me quite a lot. One being vitamin D.


34 posted on 12/18/2013 10:01:43 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: James C. Bennett

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35 posted on 12/18/2013 10:01:58 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Robert357

Where I live there is a real shortage of vitamin D.


Big Drugs will turn on vitamin d3 supplements, too.


36 posted on 12/18/2013 10:03:11 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: DariusBane

It’s curious that this is coming out at this time. I wonder if the FBI investigation of the Virginia’s soon to depart governor is connected. The story is that he accepted help from a wealthy health supplement magnate. He was Republican as well.

Is this connected to Obamacare?

It’s paradoxical: the mega-pharmaceutical companies are aligning with the same bureaucrats who defamed, miked, robbed, and now corralled into slow starvation to target the health nuts, traditional Dem constituents.


37 posted on 12/18/2013 10:04:22 PM PST by tsomer
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To: chessplayer

no orange juice?


38 posted on 12/18/2013 10:05:52 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: DariusBane
"Big Pharma doesn’t want to cure anything. Big Pharma wants steady predictable monthly sales... Repeat customers."

In spades!

The "date rape drug", GmbH, was a cheep supplement available at health food stores, used by many who needed restful sleep (e.g. international travelers, narcoleptics, etc). It's the only supplement that helps me get to stage 3/4 sleep where restorative sleep occurs. It also helps heal fibromyalgia. That's a very rare capability.

Now, it costs $2K/mth. It's only available from a single distributor.

39 posted on 12/18/2013 10:06:50 PM PST by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: DariusBane

I have family members and friends who ride the dosage roller coaster. Constantly being “adjusted” and are perpetually adding new fun cocktails to keep “fix” things caused by meds.


Of course. Big Drugs considers us nothing but lab rats that can put more money in their pockets.


40 posted on 12/18/2013 10:06:56 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: artichokegrower

Doesn’t matter.
If I want to spend the money, that is my business.


41 posted on 12/18/2013 10:16:52 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: artichokegrower

Get organic vitamins that dissolve rapidly in water — send me a FReepmail for other info.


42 posted on 12/18/2013 10:23:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: DariusBane

BTTT

It is all about removing the choices and options that should be available to free thinking people.

Very frightening times, these.
May God share His strength.
Tatt


43 posted on 12/18/2013 10:23:55 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: DariusBane; uncommonsense; no-to-illegals; All

Forty years ago there was a big push to restrict vitamins/minerals to over the counter drug rules. This would have cost consumers a lot more. I joined the big fight in which most conservatives and liberals were allied and we saved the availability of vitamins, etc.

Now I am 75, in excellent health, have never suffered the horrible varicose veins and surgery like my mother. Had begun to have the pain and vein development when I read Adelle Davis and began to use what she recommended. The pain and veins went away, I never needed the surgery my mother required. I cured my father’s severe allergy problem and helped other suffering people. After reading Davis’ “Let’s Have Healthy Children” I raised two boys. One had his only cavity at age 23, the other at age 40. Good diet can really make a difference, but since most have some problems, the right supplements can work wonders. It costs under $10 to try a bottle of tablets you think might help. If they do, great. If not, a Starbucks latte costs the same. Meanwhile, big Pharma and govt. keep your hands off my supplements and freedom to educate (an important step) myself about my own health and nutrition needs. So, study, learn, experiment, and keep what works.


44 posted on 12/18/2013 10:29:14 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

This study was done by Pfizer so I’m skeptical.

I eat right, take vitamins to supplement, I’m 57, not on any meds.


45 posted on 12/18/2013 10:34:28 PM PST by gattaca ("If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain)
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To: kruss3; All

If you feel like you need supplements, then take a good multi, but research your special problems and take additional to deal with them. For example: Winter depression - Vitamin D. Allergies - Vitamin C (personalized dose) 4 times a day, Pantothenic Acid, 200-300 mg per day. Morning sickness or motion sickness - B6 (25 mg or more, be careful if pregnant). Varicose veins - Vitamin E and Vitamin C (research dose). Back pain - Calcium and magnesium (2 to 1 ratio), and Boron 3 mg. if post menopausal. Use Google do research. Buy books on therapeutic nutrition. Study, learn, experiment.


46 posted on 12/18/2013 10:37:32 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Robert357

What they’ve said....and I’ve read through their piece and additional studies....is that if you just ate a balanced diet...you’d get all the vitamins necessary. The ability of vitamins to translate over for ‘lost vitamins’ because you won’t eat a balanced diet? Marginal. It’s not working the way that everyone was convinced over the past forty years.

At the end of this whole mess, one needs to ask themselves where exactly they went off the road for eating a balanced diet. We used to be a society that took simple raw ingredients and made entire dinners from that...without processed sugar, great amounts of sodium, or high fat contents.


47 posted on 12/18/2013 10:39:14 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: artichokegrower
As P.T Barnum said there's "Sucker born every minute"

As I've been saying for the last 20 years, multi-vitamins are a scam designed to separate you from your money.

48 posted on 12/18/2013 10:39:29 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Dark Knight; All

Thanks, my point exactly, and remember Dr. Stare, Harvard expert, sugar whore for big business.


49 posted on 12/18/2013 10:40:09 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

My Full Agreement gleeaikin.


50 posted on 12/18/2013 10:43:25 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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